Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

so I start this site in Virginia… go figure

a Pond in Isle of Wight…

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No, seriously, a damn pond has me all in a mental turmoil… the question with myself is could a “particular” pond be 400 years old?  Bear with me – I’ll get to it.

Hugh Campbell… who the hell was this guy?  He shows up around 1685 or so? and starts buying up more damn property than Rush Limbaugh has sponsors on his radio show.

A nice guy… he gives away land in 3 counties for “schools”.   The counties were IOW, Nansemond and maybe “Norfolk” wherever that was “officially”? Say around 1700.

But back to the damn pond… later.

Several years ago I “mapped” Robert Pitts patent… and dutifully wrote all my words of wisdom about his doings and the aftermath of all his doings and his descendants.  Little did I realize that I was talking out of my ass. (for lack of a better terminology… I’m a ground to earth kind of guy).

This Hugh Campbell guy swoops in and buys ALL the land of Robert Pitt.  Coll Pitt was a hotshot from England with entangling alliances which leave his descendants all aquiver with “stuff” which is just plain fun genealogically.

But I draw maps.  I get distraught and upset when  some interloper comes in and messes up my damn maps.

Here… just look at the proof…

pitt-1654

See that 1200 acres that the good Coll Pitt acquired?  I worked my ass off to figure out where that nifty little curved arrow DEFINED where this land actually was.  This patent, in my opinion, can be considered a first proof.  Go ahead… bring up an expert to refute me.  I dare you.

And now I confront this… Mr Campbell buys the said property.  What 1699? 98?… I don’t give a damn… he bought the whole damn property!  (45 YEARS later)

campbell_plattjm7qov4tk

Look at it!

So every thing that you and I thought about this particular patent (‘land’ in common terms) is brought into QUESTION.  What we thought we know ain’t necessarily so. (Considering his descendants.)

The damn POND will be the proof of where Giles Driver and Ambrose Bennet had their land.

Like I stated…I’m a mapper… south of here is a pond I think is 400 years old which will tell the tale…

If I can do it…  I will map Ambrose Bennett, Giles Driver and Robert Bracewell… it all depends on the “pond”.  If my hunch is correct.

Oh…  here is the pond… use Google maps to find it…

pond

My simple reason for thinking it may be 400+ years old is the feeder creek leading to it…   from Cypress Creek

Oh… and no one to my knowledge has ever been able to do what I am attempting here,,,  so I have that going for me…


My IOW map is “not ready for prime time” and I am still revising away.  But I just got this comment and have a few things to say…

In my research of the Jolly family I found a land grant in Bertie Co., NC issued to Thomas Goodson 150 acres south of the Maherrin River Dec. 1, 1727. ………”Beginning at a pine Thomas Boons corner tree standing in the Wild Cat Swamp……..” Thomas Goodson married Elizabeth Jolly who was the daughter of James Jolly of Isle of Wight Co., my 6th great grandfather. When Thomas Goodson died in 1761 he and his family lived in Tarboro, NC. His will stated that he left half of his lot No. 57 in Tarboro to his daughter Winne and the other half to his wife Elizabeth.

William Jolly of IOW just happens to be on my radar, along with some other folks. And they are all centered around The Pond.  The Pond is noted by the asterisk:

pond2

The base map is dated about 1920 or so… making those ponds at least 100 years old.

If I can “accurately place” Ambrose Bennet’s 1641 patent then all the other landowners will fall in place and I can merrily proceed with my mapping.  My ranting about Robert Pitt’s 1654 patent is another milestone.  Hugh Campbell purchased his land in 1698/9.  So that is accurate… the metes and bounds of his freshly minted patent 45 years later is verbatim .

Robert Coleman purchased 300 acres of Ambrose Bennet’s land in 1667… and you can see it represented above.  Coleman’s patent noted The Pond. Likewise with Hugh Campbell’s later purchase of the same land in 1699.  Likewise William Jolly’s patent mentions it in 1704.

A major difference to Campbell’s later patent can be seen (I have both patents shown on the map above).   And the difference is purchases which involved Giles Driver.  Hugh Campbell also purchased part of Giles Driver’s land.  Just as with a jig saw puzzle, I need to have those “anchor points” to connect the other pieces.

So these are the hoops I am jumping through to sort out the map.  Good Grief.  But a good thing about all these mysteries is the tantalizing revelations which are revealed… as to my commenter, just look at William Jolly and his neighbors after 1700. Note Mary Jolly (Corne Swamp) and the earlier John Jolly.  Good clues…

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January 19, 2017 at 7:41 pm

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a blog for you fleet-footed, sneaker clad folks…

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A few years back I grabbed my high school aged grandson and headed off to Edgecombe County, NC… the Archives at Raleigh, then on to the Petersburg battlefield… spent a day at Monticello and circled back for a drive thru Isle of Wight, VA.  Then back to SW Florida.  We had a ball…

I know you folks like to blab about such things… well, here you go… looks like good fun…

GenTraveling.com launches blog…3-2-1 Lift-off!

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January 18, 2017 at 5:05 am

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Bacon in Isle of Wight…

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Well actually I think a Chinese firm purchased Smithfield Hams in IOW but be that as it may…

I have been wrenched of my erroneous? preconception of where Col. Nathaniel Bacon held a 1075 acre patent.  And it ignited my fascination of several folks in 1600s IOW.  Namely several HARRIS and BRANTLEY families.

An Ancient History newspaper article from way back in 1971 caught my eye:

http://virginiachronicle.com/cgi-bin/virginia?a=d&d=TSMT19710804.1.7#

bacon-note

So without further ado… I will attempt to locate Bacon’s land with the idea per the article that Bacon’s patent was near Wrenn’s Mill…  the 1652 and 1663 renewal:

bacon-patent

“To all &tc Whereas… grant… Colo Nathaniel Bacon Esq. 1075 ares…IOW… upon a ‘BRANCH’ of the Pagan creek   Beginning at the southernmost point of the Cross Creek where Anthony Jones Land Beginneth & running over the said Creek NE x N 50 poles.  then N x E 48 to a pine where WILLIAM SMITHs line Beginneth thence along Smiths Land NE x N 320 po, thence S 1/2 pt E 884 po to [an oak]   thence SSW 190 po to a pokekory, thence W x S 244 po to the miles end of John Sparks Land and so along the said Sparke’s and Jones’s Land to the place Where it Began  … said land renewed 1663”

Mentioned above is Anthony Jones which is helpful to locate this land…

jones-1636-patent

It is my notation above concerning James River… the Jones Patent is useful but does not help much as far as me mapping the damn thing… so I hunted down another patent to where Jones sold it…     now we get some meat on the bones…

smith-patent-1655

Smith genealogists will clearly be interested because this Nicholas Smith obviously morphs into William Smith by the time of the Nathaniel Bacon patent. (renewed in 1663).

bacon_mill

This still is not enough to “place” the patent… so a little more digging- it seems Anthony Jones had another patent:

MR ANTHONY JONES, 500 acres, 2 June 1635, upon east side of Pagan Point Creek, beg. At Cross Creek and running southerly to land of John Sparkes for trans. of 10 servts.

Another reference is here but this land is clearly not the area of the mystery “branch” of Pagan Creek I am looking for.  This “hunt” is beginning to smell a bit fishy.

WILLIAM SMITH, 700 acres Sept. 29, 1645.  Lying near Pagan Point, adj. Anthony Jones, Tristram Nosworthy, Nicholas Smith and Capt. John Upton, S. W. upon Hutchinsons Cr., also 225 acres of marsh land, 500 acres due for trans. of 10 pers. by his late father, William Smith, and 425 by assignment of rights of 9 pers. by Anthony Jones.

jones-1635patent

This is perplexing as hell!  This obviously matches to the Bacon patent… Jones and Sparks are duly shown as adjoining landowners.  But this patent declares Jones to be:

on the East side of Pagan point Creek!   But the patent states “begins at a creek called the Cross Creek and runs southerly to John Sparks.  That part makes map sense.   And what does this mean?  “Westerly upon the river”  I have to assume the James River.  The bit about “Easterly into the woods” I interpret to be the usual and customary 320 poles.

So what to make of it?  The author of the newspaper article is a bit quick to castigate the esteemed Mr. Morrison it seems to me…  The author, in effect, further compounded the mistake.

My son stopped by last night as I made some Southern spaghetti and we consumed a few Heinekens and a bottle or 2 of a nice wine.  With a slight hangover this morning, I again took up this conundrum and have come to the conclusion that the newspaper article of 1971 is bullsh*t (that is hangover language).  The Nathaniel Bacon patent for 1075 acres was nowhere even near the modern Wrenn’s Mill pond.

So even with the hangover I think my map of several years ago is closer to the actual truth of where his original patent was.  Viz:

bacon-study

I rest my case.  But to throw a bone to the good researchers of Isle of Wight, Nathaniel Bacon did have some property “somewhere” in the neighborhood of Wrenn’s Mill Pond and he very well may have built a mill there.  I have attempted and so far failed to find his specific land there… but I discuss it and provide several clues in this post:

https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/edward-brantley-patent-iow-1667-and-1669/

 

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January 15, 2017 at 9:23 am

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Map musings… the dirty secret

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The dirty secret is that my maps are not always accurate… sue me (smiling).  But then again, they might be close enough to get you to where you want to go.

A commenter, Dawn,  asks:

Any clues to where “Cabbin Branch” is located on the Blackwater River? I am trying to find Patents circa 1722 for John Branch who received land on both sides of Cabbin Branch and on the south side of the Main Blackwater River in IOW/Southampton VA.

Branch, John. grantee.
grant 18 February 1722.
Summary Location: Isle of Wight County.
Description: 200 acres on the south side of the main Blackwater Swamp, and on both sides of the Cabbin Branch.
Source: Land Office Patents No. 11, 1719-1724, p. 167 (Reel 10).

I had no clue to help her… but then I found another patent a year later (1723)… there was the clue– it referenced “Lightwood Swamp” (which is extant on modern maps).  So I shared my little tidbit in the comments.  But my curiosity takes over and I delved into the area.  And therein were found more clues…    Here is a screen shot prior to my changes on the main map.

screenshot

Note the red circle… in that particular patent (referenced in the written patent itself) is noted the adjacent landowner… it is one Elizabeth BRANCH (and by inference, she is probably a widow).  So the clues evolve… this tells me that there was at least one BRANCH family near Lightwood Swamp.  Then all hell breaks loose and I go on the hunt.  The “hunt” involves searching the Land Patents on the Library of Virginia website.  In that hunt I find a John DREW who has several delicious patents which not only refer to Lightwood Swamp but also the mystery “Cabbin Branch”.   Cabbin Branch is a ghost record that can only be found by “grouping” a little community of patents.

So as you see from my revisions, the main map will never be “finished” and its real value is in “helping” to narrow down where the Old Folks lived.  Note also that I moved other patents around… such is this Jig Saw game…  Occasionally however, I will strike gold and there will be no doubt that the placement is “fact” and not mere guesswork.   In the case of this John Branch… my hunch is that it is placed within a mile or 2.  If more patents can be added it will further narrow him down.

screenshot2

And while I am on my soapbox… this 1720ish era of Old Isle of Wight (which crossed the Blackwater River and ran all the way to North Carolina until 1749) reminds me of a favorite research “source”… that being found on Familysearch.org.  Navigate to the Virginia, Isle of Wight records> Churches… click on the Newport Vestry 1723-1772.  At image 7 you will start finding records of what I suspect is the BRANCH folks that were in this area… therein are some of those delicious CLUES…

https://familysearch.org/

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There is the “Widdow Branch” that first piqued my curiosity.  Note that she appears to be at the “Mouth of Lightwood Swamp”.  But then I can’t have all the fun… enjoy the hunt.

Marc

 

 

 

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January 7, 2017 at 9:50 am

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Christopher Reynolds land… IOW

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Another piece of the puzzle for early Isle of Wight.  I have numerous other patents in the works…

I began this map several years ago by simply throwing as many patents as I could onto the map and trying to make some sense of it all.  As my methods have improved, I am back-tracking now to further refine the folks.  I grab whatever pertinent clues I can find and attempt to put them together.  If you can add or detract please comment…

Christopher Reynolds 1636 patent can be found wedged between the 1679 and 1681 patents of his descendants. I think this is about as accurate as you can get.  However, as you see in my notes there were other land deals which I have not worked out.  I hope to roll Giles Driver, Ambrose Bennett and others into the mix.

The main map is in chaos right now as I make additions and revisions… so what else is new in genealogy… right?

https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/isle-of-wight-map/

reynolds-study

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January 5, 2017 at 5:36 pm

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Isle of Wight 1670…

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I get absorbed in these early maps.  Over a 5am coffee this morning and marveling over the 1751 map by Fry and Jefferson, I re-examined this old map:

1670iow

The orientation of the map is a bit startling…  we simply do not look at maps that way… well, unless you drop it on the floor and pick it up I suppose.

There staring me in the face, is the only map reference I have ran across which shows the Indian Branch or Indian Creek in IOW. (just under the name NANTEMOND).   Also note they were still referring to the bay as “Warwickqueke”.  This was the “frontier” of the time.  The old boys were simply ignorant of what was beyond the Blackwater River.  Hell, the map does not even show the Blackwater River.  20 years earlier a venture was made to the falls of modern Roanoke River but they quickly turned tail and scurried back to modern Petersburg.

The Land between James River and Roanoke River is for the moft parts Low Suncken Swampy Land not very well paffable but with great dificulty.  And therein harbours  Tygers  Bears and other Devouringe Creatures”

Somewhere around “DURANDS” place was the actual Part of Roanock River. But… but… that “fact” was relayed “by others relation”… which I take to mean “someone told us that”.

So they mapped the “falls of the real Roanoke River” as Morattok River.  And so it was known for DECADES.

Such was on my mind as I wrote this post a while back…

https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/?s=walking+the+bog

Good fun… here is the link:

http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/media_player?mets_filename=evm00003216mets.xml

The Fry-Jefferson map is here… the history of the map is fascinating.  It was the go-to map all the way to the American Revolution.  And it was pretty damn accurate in my opinion. (don’t miss the Indian Path in N.C.)

http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Fry-Jefferson_Map_of_Virginia#start_entry

 

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December 23, 2016 at 7:25 am

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Bond… John Bond… and Thomas Harris… and others in IOW

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A little blip on my map… a slight reference that perhaps may juice up some research into some Isle of Wight folks.  And like… Oh, I don’t know… stir up some comments.

harris-graphic

The patent of the 2 sons of Thomas Harris above is “washed out” and cannot be read on the Library of Virginia website… bummer.  The abstract was made by Nugent in 1938 or so and was readable obviously.  My interest is in any metes and bounds that may have been noted, which leaves me in a lurch to plot the damn patent.  In any event… I am pretty sure my map is “close”.

The John Bond reference is that his property adjoined Nicholas Cobb.  And that area is interesting…  and once more I defer to some research of Matt Harris:

http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/isleofwight/deeds/harris12.txt

ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, VA - DEEDS - John BOND to Thomas HARRIS
                                   13 Jan 1664
                                   Deed of Bargain & Sale 

                                   Thomas HARRIS & wife Alice
                                   to John BOND
                                   20 Oct 1664
                                   Assignment of Patents

                                   Thomas HARRIS & wife Alice 
                                   to Giles DRYVER [DRIVER]
                                   2 May-1 Nov 1667
                                   Deeds of Lease & Release
                        ----¤¤¤----

[p.] 38 [...] 

Know all men by these p'sents 
that I John BOND of the Isle of Wight County in Virginia hath bargained sould 
and delivered unto Thomas HARRIS of the afores'd County 
One Corne mill standing att the head of the Pagan Creek in the said County of 
the Isle of Wight as shee now goeth w.th all such Materialls or thereunto 
belongeth [altered from "belonging"] with free priviledge to take what Tymber 
the said HARRIS shall have Occasion to use for the necessary repair of the 
said Mill worke or Fludgates with free passage to & from the said Mill soe as 
not any damage or hindrance may happen thereby unto the said BOND his Heires 
Executo.rs or Assignes, which Mill I hence disclayme as wholly belonging to 
him the said HARRIS his Heires Executo.rs Adm.rs or Assignes for ever with 
warranty from any Claymes to be made there, unto the said Mill, by me my 
Heires or Executo.rs, 
as Witness my hand [altered from "hands"] this 13.th day of January 1663 
[1663/4] and seal 
Witt's                                            John BOND 
Henry KING 
Alce  W  PHILLIPS 
   her m'ke 

     Acknowledged and delivered by Majo.r John BOND unto Thomas HARRIS in Open 
     Court this First day of May 1665 
                                            Test  Jn.o JENNIGS  Cler Cur 
   Record.d First May 1665 
[page end] 


[p.] 39 

Know all men by these p'sents, 
That I Thomas HARRIS of the Isle of Wight County in Virginia Planter, and 
Alice my Wife doe for us o.r Heires Executo.rs & Administrato.rs make over 
bargaine, sell & alientate, unto Maj.r John BOND of the same County gen.t 
his Heires Executo.rs or Assignes, 
One hundred & Ninety Acres of Land Comprized in two severall Pattents 
scituated lyeing & being att y.e head of the Pagan Creek in the aforesaid 
County (vizt) 
one pattent being in y.e name of John VASSER Conteyning One hundred & Fifty 
Acres of Land & bearing date the Eighteenth day of November 1635 and in the 
Eleaventh year of the reigne of o.r Soveraigne Lord King Charles the first, 
[VASLER, PB1:310] 
and the other Pattent conteyning forty acres, of Land and taken in the name of 
the said Thomas HARRIS, bearing date y.e Fourteenth day of August 1652 
[PB3:205; renewed 6 Jun 1664, PB5:273] 
the said hundred & Ninety Acres of Land, to have and to; ['hold' omitted] 
accordeing to y.e bounds expressed in each Pattent, 
with all the cleared grounds, houseings Fences & Orchards all Priveledges & 
Royaltyes whatsoever thereunto belongeth unto him the said John BOND his 
Heires Executo.rs or Assignes for ever, with Generall Warranty against the 
Claymes Tytles or Molestaçons of any P/son or Persons whatsoever, to any P/te 
or P/cell thereof; 
for all which Wee the aboves'd Thomas and Alce [sic] doe acknowledge o.r 
selves fully paid and sattisfied before the sealing & delivery hereof 
And for A full and absolute Confirmaçon To all and singular intents and 
purposes, doe Oblidge o.r selves to acknowledge this Our volluntary Act & 
Deed, att the next Court to hould in the Isle of Wight County, 
Witness our hands Seales, This Twentieth day of October 1664 
                                                           ~ 
Signed Sealed & delivered                         Thomas HARRIS 
 In the P'sence of                                    Sigill 
   Henry KING                                     Alce  +  HARRIS 
   Alce  ~~  PHILLIPS                                 Sigill 
      her marke                                      her marke [¼'d circle] 

               This Conveyance is delivered and acknowledged Unto Maj.r John 
               BOND in Open Co.rt by M.r Thomas HARRIS and Alce his Wife 
               y.e 1.st day of May 1665 
                                           Teste  Jn.o JENINGS Cler Cur 
                         Record primo die Maÿ 
                                    1665 
[page end] 


[p] 116 

Know all men by these p'sents that I John BOND of the Isle of Wight County in 
Virginia hath bargained sould & delivered unto Thomas HARRIS of the aforesaid 
County, One Cornemill standing att the head of the Pagan Creek in the same 
County of the Isle of Wight as shee now goeth with all such materialls as 
thereunto belongeth, with free priveledge to take what Timber the said HARRIS 
shall have occasion for to use for the necessary repair of the said Mill work 
or Floodgates with free passage to & from the said Mill soe as not any damage 
or hindreance may happen thereby unto ye said BOND his heires Ex.rs or 
Assignes which Mill I doe disclayme as wholly belonging to him the said HARRIS 
his Heires Ex.rs Adm.rs or Assignes for ever, with Warrantie from any Claymes 
to be made thereunto the said Mill by me my Heires or Ex.rs as witness my hand 
the 13th day of Jan.ry 1663 
                                            John BOND  Sigill 
Wit 
Henry KING 
Alce PHILLIPS  W  her m'ke 

     Acknowledged & delivered by Major John BOND unto Thomas HARRIS in Open 
     Co.rt this first day of may 1665 And then Recorded 
                                            Test  Jn.o JENNIGS  Cler Cur 

These p'sents witness that I Thomas HARRIS of ye Isle of Wight County for a 
valluable Consideraçon in hand rec'ed doe Assigne & make over unto M.r Giles 
DRYVER of the said County his Heires Ex.rs Adm.rs and Assignes all my Right 
Title Clayme & interest to the Bill of Sale within menc'oned for A Mill with 
all its priveledges and appert'ences, whatsoever therein expressed with 
Warranty against all Claymes whatsoever as alsoe ag.t any Clayme or P'tence of 
Clayme now or hereafter to be made by me ye sd Thomas HARRIS my Heires or 
Adm.rs or any Person or Persons whatsoever by us or any of Our precurem.ts 
In witness hereof I have hereunto sett my hand & seal this 2.d day of May in 
the year of Lord 1667 
                                            Tho: HARRIS  Sigill 
Signed Sealed & d'd in ye P'sence of 
Nich HILL 
Josep RUDD  J  m'ke 

     This Mill w.th in mençoned to be delivered w.th its appert'ences to M.r 
     DRYVER or his Assignes ye 5.th day of 9.br [November] next & untill y.t 
     tyme ye whole P'fitts to be ye use And behoofe of M.r Tho: HARRIS or 
     Assignes  In witness hereof I have hereunto sett my hand & seal this 
     2.d day of May in 
     the year of Lord 1667 
                                            Tho HARRIS  Sigill 
Witt 
Nich HILL 
Joseph RUDD  J  m'ke 
[page break] 


[p] 117 

Know that I Thomas HARRIS and Alce my Wife doe by these P'sents Assigne make 
over possess and deliver unto M.r Giles DRYVER the Mill with all the 
appertences thereunto belonging to him his Heires Ex.rs Adm.rs and Assignes 
for ever, w.th warranty of the Just Sale thereof from us or either of us our 
heires Executo.rs Adm.rs or Assignes or any other Persons whatsoever in this 
Sale mençoned And doe oblidge o.r selves to Acknowledge this our Act in the 
Open Court of Isle of Wight County the 9.th day of this p'sent month 
Witness our hands the first day of November 1667 
                                            Tho: HARRIS 
                                            Alce HARRIS 
                                             +  m'ke [¼'d circle] 
Signed & deliv'ed in p'sents of us 
John BOND 
John HARDY 

     Acknowledged & Confirmed this Sale of the Mill by M.r Thomas HARRIS and 
     Alce his Wife unto M.r Giles DRYVER in ye Open Co.rt held for the Isle of 
     Wight County the 9.th day of December 1667 And then recorded 
                                            Test  Jn.o JENNINGS  Cler.Cur 

[Thomas' wife Alice (his 2d) may have been a WEST; she 2m. John SOJOURNER. 
 John BOND is thought to have 3m. Dorothy HARRIS BAKER, Thomas' sister and 
 widow of John BAKER.] 

Isle of Wight Co., VA, Record of Wills, Deeds, Etc., Vol. 1 (1662-1715), 
pp. 38-39, 116-17 
The Library of Virginia, Isle of Wight Co. Microfilm Reel 22 
abstracted by Matt HARRIS [surname capitalization, line breaks & brackets mine]

see also 
Virginia Land Office, Patent Book 1 (1623-1643), p. 310 
The Library of Virginia, Virginia Land Office Patent and Grant Database, 
     Image 001_0312.tif 
Virginia Land Office, Patent Book 3 (1652-1655), p. 205 
     Image 002_0634.tif 
Virginia Land Office, Patent Book 5 (1661-1666), p. 273 
     Image 005_0290.tif 


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	Copyright.  All rights reserved.
	http://www.usgwarchives.net/copyright.htm

	This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives 
	by:  Matthew W. Harris	   Zoobug64@aol.com
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https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/crispincousins/conversations/messages/1325
Oct 28, 2009
Hello Michael,
Thank you very much for the additional information and comments on the Harris line. All of your research work is very welcome to those of us involved in the very difficult Harris research.
I have enclosed 3 abstracts from the Brayton book which identify Thomas Harris, died 1672, his 2 sons, John and Thomas and proof that both sons lived after 1688. In addition, I have enclosed the will and probate records for both sons and some interesting land deeds. I have detailed documentation of the lives of all three Harris mentioned, but am reluctant to post this information due to the size of the file, however, I will post this information, if you or anyone else is interested.
Thomas Harris Will. Isle of Wight County, Virginia;
Imprimis; For the land I now live uppon, equally divided between my two sonnes, John and Thomas and both of them to live upon it. For my land which I have att the Indian Town…..two hundred and sixty acres, ……..to my sonne Thomas……. For my land in Corotoman, in the County of Lancaster, beinge seaven hundred acres, I bequeath to my eldest son John Harris……..Wife Alice…… Daughter Mary if she live to be married…… Wife Alice, Executrix…….Major Nicholas Hill and John Jennings, Overseers. Date, March 30, 1672. Recorded June 10, 1672. Witnesses; Francis Hobbs, Lewis Rogers.
(Francis Hobbs was father to Margaret Hobbs who married Thomas’ son John Harris. John Jennings was husband to Martha Harris, daughter of Robert Harris and niece of Thomas Harris Sr. Wife Alice was Alice Newman Harris, 2nd wife of Thomas Harris Sr.)
Cavaliers and Pioneers, Volume II, 1666-1695;
John and Thomas Harris, 365 acres, Upper Parish of Isle of Wight County; on north side of the Ashen Swamp, near the head and on west side of Seaward’s Creek, 20 April 1685. Page 441. 250 acres part granted Nathaniel Loyd, 20 November 1637 and conveyed to said Harris’ father, by Captain Francis Hobbs and his wife, who was the relict and administratrix of said Loyd, 13 January 1659; and among other lands found to escheate; granted to Honorable Colonel Joseph Bridger 22 July 1678, who sold to said John and Thomas Harris the 6 February following (1679), to be equally divided according to their father’s will, dated last day of March 1672. 115 acres being waste land; and the whole beginning by a marsh near the head of Seaward’s Creek; near Colonel Bacon, Etc; due for the transportation of 3 persons.
Isle of Wight County, Virginia, Deed Book 2, 1704-1715;
Page 181. 26 March 1711. John Harris of the Upper Parish to Thomas Harris of the same, 365 acres (being land they owned jointly by patent dated 20 April 1685) on Seaward’s Creek. For brotherly love, they wish to divide this tract which consists of 250 acres taken up by their father (not named) and 115 acres which they, John and Thomas Harris, took up. Land adjoins Dry Bridge Branch and the north part is to go to John Harris and the south part is to go to Thomas Harris. Thomas Davis and wife now rent part of the land in the southern part. Witness: William Bridger and John Scott. Signed John Harris, Thomas Harris. Recorded 26 March 1711.
Lancaster County, Virginia Deed Book 4, 1662-1680, Page 208;
Know all men by these presents that I JOHN HARRIS of the County of Isle of Wight in Virg’a planter sonne and heire of THOMAS HARRIS late of the aforesd county planter deed doe make ordain constitute and appoint my loveing uncle NICHOLAS GEORGE of ye County of Lancaster planter my Lawfull Attorney for mee and in my name to acknowledge in the county Co’rt of Lancaster indenture of bargain and sale by mee to Capt. DAVID FOX of ye aforesd County of Lancaster……..seventh day of December 1674……… (signed) JOHN HARRIS. Signed sealed and deliv’red in the presence of: MARTHA JONES, THOMAS WATKIN.
WILLS AND ADMINISTRATIONS of ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1647-1800.
Harris, John of the Upper Parish: Legacy, daughter Alice, daughter Elizabeth, daughter Isabel; land given me by Hugh Campbell of Cureweak; Lawrence Brown, when he is free; wife Mary; daughter Susanna; daughter Anne; daughter Mary; daughter Martha. Wife Executrix. Overseers: Mathew Jordan and John Scott. Dated February 12, 1712. May 25, 1713. Witness: JUDITH HARRIS, William Story, Mathew Jordan.
(Judith Edwards Harris was sister in law to John Harris, being the 2nd wife of his brother Thomas Harris Jr. Wife Mary was Mary Campbell Harris, 3rd wife of John Harris)
Harris, John. Appraisal by Reuben Proctor, William Balmer, Elias Hodges and Roger Hodges. Signed Elizabeth Harris. August 8, 1713.
(Elizabeth Harris was daughter of John Harris).
WILLS AND ADMINISTRATIONS, ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, VIRGINIA;
HARRIS, THOMAS: Appraisal by R. Proctor, John Harrison, Philip Wheadon, James Wilson. Signed: JUDITH HARRIS. March 23, 1712/1713.
(Judith Edwards Harris was 2nd wife of Thomas Harris Jr.).
HARRIS, JOHN of the Upper Parish: Legacy – Daughter Alice; daughter Elizabeth; daughter Isabel; land given me by Hugh Campbell of Cureweak; LAWRENCE BROWN when he is free; wife Mary; daughter Susanna; daughter Anne; daughter Mary; daughter Martha. Wife Executrix. Overseers, Mathew Jordan and John Scott. Dated February 12, 1712. Recorded May 25, 1713. Witness: JUDITH HARRIS, William Story, Matthew Jordan. (John was brother of Thomas Harris Jr.)
HARRIS, JOHN. Appraisal by Reuben Proctor, William Balmer, Elias Hodges and Roger Hodges. Signed Elizabeth Harris. August 8, 1713.
Thomas Harris Jr. inherited 183 acres from his father and took out a land patent for 150 acres. He died intestate and his estate would have been divided in thirds, with one third to oldest son, one third to other siblings and one third to widow. Edward Harris as oldest son may have stayed on the land and lived there until moving to Surry County, Virginia in the 1730’s. Edward Harris’ legacy from John Clark may have included land in Surry County. His legacy from Henry Browne included forgiveness of debt owing, plus 10 pounds, plus 10 pounds credit at a local store. His legacy from his father probably included 333 acres of land, including the plantation in Isle of Wight County. His siblings would have been underage when his father died, so that their portion would have been divided at a later date.
Sincerely,
James E. Hargraves
Elk Grove, California
Harris DNA Group 30.
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My personal interest, other that the historical, is to map those pesky 365 acres of the 1685 patent.
The history itself is fascinating…
http://www.ncgenweb.us/ncwarren/harris-book/Chapter_One.html
“Thomas obtained several land grants, as follows: on August 14, 1652 he received 40 acres of land at the head of the branches to Pagan Creek; on March 2, 1658 he received 1000 acres on a swamp that runs into the western branch on Nansemand River, this land included two Indian fields; he, also, received another grant of 365 acres in Isle of Wight County;  on March 18, 1662 Thomas received a grant of 600 acres in Lancaster County, Virginia.   Thomas and Alice sold 190 acres of land near Pagan Creek to John Bond on October 20, 1664.    John Bond was the husband of Thomas’ sister, Dorothy. Thomas signed his will on March 31, 1672. The will was probated on June 10, 1672. Thomas left his land in Lancaster County, Virginia to John, “his eldest son”. He left certain lands, including the “Indian Town lands” to his son, Thomas. Thomas, also, left to his two oldest sons, John and Thomas, equal shares of the land on which he lived, with the request that both of them should live on such land.”
One of my favorite genealogists is the late Claiborne T. Smith, Jr… he weighed in on the Harris conundrum:
https://mattocks2.wordpress.com/2009/04/27/sergeant-john-harris-of-charles-city-county-virginia/
But again, as I say, my quest is simply to map the damn 365 acre patent… here Matt Harris has again found a land description from 1711.  But again there are simply not enough clues to map it.
ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, VA - DEEDS - John HARRIS & Thomas HARRIS, bros.
                                   26 Mar 1711
				   Deed of Covenant
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[p.] (181) 

[...Deed, Richard (RP) PUGH to John GILL, rec. 26 Mar 1711; 
 wits: A.r SMITH, John HOLE, John (I) SURBY....] 

[margin note] HARRIS  Deed to Each other 

This Indenture of Covenant made Concluded & agreed by & between Jn.o HARRIS of 
the Upper Parish of Isle of Wight County of the one part & Thomas HARRIS of 
the Said parish & County of the other part 
Witnesseth That for & in Consideraç'on y.e the afores.d Jn.o & Thomas at this 
time stand Seiz'd & possessed of & in one certaine parcell or tract of land 
cont:ne three hund:d & Sixty five acres as by patent dated the 2d: of Aprill 
1685 granted under the hand of the Lord Howard EFFINGHAM may appear 
Scituate in the head of Sewards Creek in the 
                                       parish 
[page break] 


[p.] (182) 

Parish afores.d 
And forasmuch as the said Jn.o & Thomas not only willing to Maintaine & 
preserve that brotherly love betwixt them, that now is on their owne behalf 
but Ever hereafter to themselves and posterity & to prevent all law Suites 
troubles and Imcumbrances between them & their heirs according to the Devise & 
desire of their Said father as by his Will Expressed 
[10 Jun 1672, Isle of Wight Co. Record of Wills, Deeds, Etc., Vol. 2, p. 111] 
two hund.d & fifty acres of the P'cel of land formerly belonging to their Said 
father 
the other one hund:d & fifteen Twice Surveyd & taken up by the Said Jn.o & 
Thomas & afterwards Joyned & included in y.e aboves.d patent according to its 
bounds, 
do acknowledge y.t [that] they the Said Jn.o & Thomas have made a deviding 
line of & in the s.d land w.ch s.d Devision according to the bounds hereafter 
Specified & Set downe in this Indenture shall be a Mutuall Established line 
and be taken to be their bounds in the Division of the above patent of land to 
them and their heirs for Ever  That is to Say 
begining at a m'ked pohiccory standing near the Outside line 
& so along aline of marked trees to Some low ground 
and thrô the low ground along aline of m'ked trees to a branch Called the dry 
bridge branch 
& so along the Same lime of trees downe the Valley to the head of a Spring 
then along the water Courses to the Creek 
the land on the North Side the Said line to be and remaine to the Said Jn.o 
HARRIS & his heires for Ever 
And y.e land on the South Side the Said line to be & remaine to y.e Said 
Thomas & his heires for Ever w.th this Exception that the Rents accruing & 
becomeing due from Thomas DAVIS & his wife who now lives o part of the land on 
the South Side the line the one half the s.d rent to be and Enure to the 
proper use & behoof of the said John & his heires and after the Said Davise's 
decease to be & remaine w.th the whole land & appurtena's on the South Side 
y.e Said lines to the Said Thomas to him & his heires &c 
In Witness of the aboves.d Articles the above Said Jn.o & Thomas HARRIS do 
Interchangeably set their hands & Seales Dated this 26.th day of March 1711.
                                       John HARRIS      ¤Seal¤ 
                                       Thomas HARRIS    ¤Seal¤ 
Signed Seal'd & Deliver'd 
   in the presence of us 
Test  Will BRIDGER 
      John SCOTT 
                   ~ At a Court held for the Isle of 
                   Wight County the 26.th day of March 1711. 
Joh HARRIS & Thomas HARRIS Came into Court presented & acknowledged this their 
Deed Each to other and it admitted to record - 
                                       Test  H. LIGHTFOOT  C.l C.ur 


[page continues 
 Ralph HILL & Nicholas HILL appoint Mr. Joseph CHAPMAN to acknowledge a deed 
 dated 25 Dec 1710 to Mr. Benjamin CHAPMAN. (Power of Attorney)] 
[page end] 

[There is no extant patent matching the description above (250a, 2 Apr 1685). 
 Thomas HARRIS (Sr.) pat. 240a. adj. Mathew TOMLIN, 27 Mar 1686 (PB7:510-11).] 

Isle of Wight Co., VA, Record of Wills, Deeds, Etc., Vol. 2 (1661-1719), 
pp. 181-82 
The Library of Virginia, Isle of Wight Co. Microfilm Reel 23 
abstracted by Matt HARRIS [surname capitalization, line breaks & brackets mine]

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	This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives 
	by:  Matthew W. Harris	   Zoobug64@aol.com
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My writing skills are dubious and I have a tendency to wander off on sidetracks which do not help.  This little blurb seems to sum up what I am trying to convey with this post:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Harris_Families_from_England_to_America

Mill

from Boddie’s 17th Century Isle of Wight County… Google Book)
  • Jan. 13, 1663: John Bond sells Thomas Harris a corn mill at head of Pagan Creek (page 8). Teste, Henry King, Alice (X) Phillips (page 539).
  • — Thomas Harris sells mill to Giles Driver.
from this Yahoo discussion, providing notes concerning Thomas Harris d 1672
  • Corn mill sold to Giles Driver on November 17, 1667
  • 40 acres, 9 June 1664, Isle of Wight County, page 303 (273) At head of one of the branches of Pagan Creek, his own land on north east and land of FRANCIS SMITH on the southwest, Renewal of patent dated 19 August 1652.
    • (Francis Hobbs was father to Margaret Hobbs who married John Harris. John Jennings was husband to Martha Harris, daughter of Robert Harris and niece of Thomas Harris Sr.)
“John and Thomas Harris, 365 acres, Upper Parish of Isle of Wight County; on north side of the Ashen Swamp, near the head and on west side of Seaward’s Creek, 20 April 1685. Page 441. 250 acres part granted Nathaniel Loyd, 20 November 1637 and conveyed to said Harris’ father, by Captain Francis Hobbs and his wife, who was the relict and administratrix of said Loyd, 13 January 1659; and among other lands found to escheate; granted to Honorable Colonel Joseph Bridger 22 July 1678, who sold to said John and Thomas Harris the 6 February following (1679), to be equally divided according to their father’s will, dated last day of March 1672. 115 acres being waste land; and the whole beginning by a marsh near the head of Seaward’s Creek; near Colonel Bacon, Etc; due for the transportation of 3 persons.
“Isle of Wight County, Virginia, Deed Book 2, 1704-1715;
“Page 181. 26 March 1711. John Harris of the Upper Parish to Thomas Harris of the same, 365 acres (being land they owned jointly by patent dated 20 April 1685) on Seaward’s Creek. For brotherly love, they wish to divide this tract which consists of 250 acres taken up by their father (not named) and 115 acres which they, John and Thomas Harris, took up. Land adjoins Dry Bridge Branch and the north part is to go to John Harris and the south part is to go to Thomas Harris. Thomas Davis and wife now rent part of the land in the southern part. Witness: William Bridger and John Scott. Signed John Harris, Thomas Harris. Recorded 26 March 1711.”
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Here is where I propose Thomas Harris had his 1000 acre patent… which he deserted… all things considered, it seems to me he primarily lived and died around his “mill” near Pagan Creek.
https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/coleman-notes/#jp-carousel-4046
This 40 acre patent refers to the Mill area discussed above:
Harris, Thomas. grantee.
Land grant 9 June 1664.
Gen. note “Formerly gtd. sd. Harris, Augt. 14, 1652 and now renewed.”
Summary Location: Isle of Wight County. Description: 40 acres at the head of one of the branches of Pagan Creek, adjoining his own and Francis Smith’s. land.
harris40acres
Conveniently… it fits easily near the area of my map where John Bond is noted near the missing patent of Francis Smith.
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Bear with me as I yet again wander off on a tangent…
Referring to the will of Thomas Harris Sr:
“Thomas signed his will on March 31, 1672. The will was probated on June 10, 1672. Thomas left his land in Lancaster County, Virginia to John, “his eldest son”. He left certain lands, including the “Indian Town lands” to his son, Thomas. Thomas, also, left to his two oldest sons, John and Thomas, equal shares of the land on which he lived, with the request that both of them should live on such land.”
The 1000 acre patent referred to some “Indian Town” lands.  BUT Harris deserted that patent and it was picked up by Joseph Bridger in 1668.   So I am obviously confused by the same mention of the “Indian Town lands” in his will.
My theory is that the land granted to his sons (or is it his grandsons) per his will was nearby to Edward Brantley.  In Brantley’s patent is a mention of “the Dancing Place“.   Could it be that this area of Isle of Wight was the main home grounds of the Indians who became so agitated in 1622?  There seems to be a “historical memory” to justify these “Indian” references?
But then again… is it merely an assumption on my part that the Thomas Harris of the Mill area of Pagan Creek is even related to the Thomas Harris of the 1000 acre patent on the Western Branch?
If I am correct with my map placement that the Harris descendants were next door (so to speak) to the Brantley descendants of Isle of Wight, then this map may be of interest:
https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/2016/10/22/brantley-blood-anderson-veins/
They do seem to stay in close contact?  Intermarried perhaps?

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