Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

so I start this site in Virginia… go figure

Andrew Ross will

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This helps answer a lot of questions concerning the various properties in Edgecombe County and the Nash Co. property near Sapponey Creek.  Andrew apparently was living near William Anderson at Swift Creek when he died. William Anderson and Thomas Price witnessed his will.  My interest is still about the William Pitman (his son in law) and who he was the son and sibling of.

See here for deed info and a map… https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/pitman-ross-conundrum-map/

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Daniel Ross

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There is also a will for Kallum Ross and his son Daniel at this source for those interested.

Source: Familysearch.org
North Carolina Probate Records, 1735-1970
Edgecombe
Wills, 1758-1830, Vol. 08
Image 188,189.190 of 291
Daniel Ross… image 192 of 291

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Andrew Ross Sr. of Nansemond

The earliest reference I find is this reference to Ross witnessing a will in 1685…

KALBIN, JOHN.    Perquimans Precinct.

December 20, 1685. Executor and sole legatee: ROBERT INBASON. Witnesses: WILLIAM DANSE, ANDREW ROSS. No probate.  Abstract of North Carolina wills …Grimes

To be “of age”  would make his birth at least 1664… or so… (I think I saw a reference to a 1683 appearance I have misplaced…?)

Andrew Ross Sr was a Quaker:   this reference is from 1688…

Early Quaker Records in Virginia by Miles White page 10 lists witnesses to the marriage of Leven Bufkin and Dorothy Newby. Among those listed were:
Witnesses:

John Small    Alce Hollowell   Robert Willson    Marke Alsbury   Ann Wilson  Nathan Newby    Robard Jones    Margret Jordan   Gabrell Newby    Frances Mace    Eliz Scott

John Scott    John Keeton    Ann Small   Johnathan Newby    Andrew Ross    Eliz Ratliff   Edmond Belson    John Small Junir    Martha Jones   Tho. Duke    Izabell Newby

Margaret Duke   Rich. Ratliff    Eliz Jordan    Mary Sanders   Christopher Gwein    Eliz. Newby    Mary Keeton   Isaac Reecks    Eliz Copland    Ann Hacly

Old Albemarle County NC, Grants, Headrights, Surveys & Warrants 1681-1706, Goldenwest Genealogy, pub. 1984

5-3    CERTIFICTS. OF RIGHTS &

At a court holden for ye. pRcinct of Perquimons at ye. house of Wm. ___(torn) _he second Munday in Aprill 1694 pRsent ye. Justices of the Court.

Andrew ROS proved four Rights viz: Andrew ROS, Mary ROSSE, (torn-one name missing) __mes ROSSE and assigne them to John PARISH and A Warrant given (torn) these and 26 acres upon returne of a former Wart.

Coincidentally the same names pop up four years later in another Perquimans reference…
Minutes of the Perquimans Precinct Court
North Carolina. Precinct Court (Perquimans  Precinct)
July 11, 1698
Volume 01, Pages 494-495
At A Court Houlden for the prcinct of piquemon At ye house of Mr James Oats ye Secont Monday in July 1698…
…Hennery Norman proved Rites for eight persons transported Into this County Whoes Names are under Wreten vis him Selfe Mary his Wife Andrew Ross Mary Ross Thomas Ross John Simmons Georg Waide  James Ross
So the “torn page” appears to be a son… Thomas… this would place the birth of Andrew Ross Junior at 1694 or later.  I figure Ross Sr simply sold or traded these headrights… it equated to 200 acres of land.

The early Andrew Ross can be distinguished with wife Mary.  He was also a “Clerk” of the Court.

Lear, John. Nansemond County.

November 21, 1695. December 12, 1695. Daughters: Martha BurWell, Elizabeth Lear. Grandson: John Lear. Other legatees: Charles Goremge, John George. Executors: Lewis Burwell, Capt. Thomas Godwin. Witnesses: William Coffield, John Lowe, Elizabeth Bridger, Ann Coffield. Deputy Clerk of the Court: Andrew Ross.

He gets into a bit of trouble in 1699…  the “castletrash” aristocrats in Virginia didn’t particularly care for Quakers… ‘specially uppity big mouth Quakers who didn’t “toe the line” as they say…

Journals of the House of Burgesses of Virginia, 1695-1696, 1696-1697, 1698 …

By Virginia. General Assembly. House of Burgesses, Virginia State Library

Saturday June the 3d 1699.

The House of Burgesses upon consideration of the business of Nansemond recomended by yor Excellency to this House and the Deposicons thereunto relateing, are humbly of Opinion that by One Deposicon, to wit, that of Joseph Acheleys words are mentioned to be Spoke by Maijr Thomas Godwin which are scandalous and reflective upon yorExcellcy And

That by the Deposicons of James Moore, Joseph Wright and Robert Horneing words have been Spoke by Andrew Ross which are seditious and highly Scandalous against yor Excellcy the Government, and his Majesties Royall Colledge here. and therefore humbly represent to your Excellencie That the said offenders may be proceeded against by the Attorny Gen” as to yor Excellencies Wisdome shall Seem meet and their Severall Crimes shall deserve.

And this House further represent that vpon Examinacon of the whole matter relateing to Cap’ Thomas Jordan Sherriff They are humbly of Opinion, That the said Sherriff hath~faithfully modestly and impartially behaved himself at the Election And by any thing that hath appeared to this House not guilty of any reflection vpon yor Excellencye or the Government

Ordered That Mr Leigh Mr Harrison Mr Wilson Mr Bolling Mr Giles and Mr Church do do carrye the said Message and present the Same to his Excellency.

The House vpon Examinacon of the Deposicons relateing to the business of Nansemond do find by the Deposicon of John Stalling That Mr Thomas Godwin Junr Spoke Some words which reflected vpon the House of Burgesses. but when he was a Member        (kind of makes me wonder which side of the coin old John Stallings was on)

of of this house, haveing acknowledged his Error and prayed pardon of the House for the Same it is therevpon

Ordered. That he be Excused for the words Spoke as aforesaid.

Mr Basfit has vpon his motion leave given him to goe to his owne house upon Extraordinary Occasions and

Ordered. He attend the Service of the House on Monday next And

Then the house adjourned till Monday Ten a Clock

Per the Library of Virginia patents…

Ross, Andrew. grantee. Land grant 24 April 1703. Nansemond County.

Description: 87 acres on the western side of the southern branch of Nansemond River, adjoining the land of Corbin Rowland…

Ross, Andrew. grantee. Land grant 16 June 1714. Nansemond County.

Description: 460 acres on the So. Wt. ward side of the Knuckles Swamp of Sumerton and on the south west side of the Long Branch which issueth out of the aforesd. main Knuckles Swamp.

The map below shows the early land of Andrew Ross Sr  in Nansemond, VA.  These two patents are from the Virginia patent books.  The 1703 patent is rather vague as to where it was in relation to the neighbors but it was this general area.  The 1714 “Knuckles Swamp” patent is dead on.

Note also on the map John Odium.  Ross had dealings with one Abraham Odium (Odum) in Nansemond and later in 1750s/60s (Andrew Ross Jr)  in Edgecombe Co., NC.  I had to add a bit of map in NC because the Odium land wound up clearly in NC after the 1728 state boundary by William Byrd II. I think the Odium land is placed fairly accurate because of land references (in particular a later neighbor’s land reference to “Buckland, NC”)

Virginia 1704 Rent Roll        Ross Andrew     Nansemond County

“Robt Patison” was listed on the 1704 Virginia Quit Rent rolls for Norfolk with 350 acres…

This rather remarkable reference pops up in 1721…

Patterson, Robert.

June 4, 1717. February 15, 1721. Son: John. Daughters: Elizabeth and Janet Patterson. Wife and Executrix: Janet. Other legatees: Simon Simons, John Parke, Andrew Ross, Andrew Ross, Jr., of Nansemond County, Va. Witnesses: James Long, Josiah Bridgers, Willm. Hawett, William Moore, James Allenn, J. Fehenden. Proven before Chas. Eden.

extract from will:

     “Item. I give unto Andrew ROSS the son of Andrew Ross of Nansemond County 

and Mary his wife one hundred acres of land lying and being upon a place 

known by the name of the Beaverdams adjoyning to the land of Daniel McDANIEL

I say unto the said Andrew Ross and the heirs of his body lawfully begotten 

forever.     

     Item. I give to Andrew Ross, junr. of Nansemond County one young mare or 

horse as a legacy.”

(The Patterson will is the “smoking gun” proof that Andrew Ross Junior was the son of Ross Senior.  I think it is overwhelming circumstantial proof to conclude that Ross Jr moved with several of his neighbors to Edgecombe Co. (Jacob and Abraham Odom/Odium, Sumners, and Gregory Stallings… by 1760 or so, all of these folks had property in close proximity in Edgecombe near Swift Creek).    Ann Ross, daughter of Andrew Ross Jr., would at some point marry James Stallings, the son of Gregory Stallings of Nansemond.  It would be interesting to determine if they married in Nansemond or in Edgecombe… I can’t get a handle on the ages of Ross’s children.)       (I also have a “Page” for Daniel McDaniel and where this property was in the 1720s….  what in the world the connection was near the Roanoke River was, I know not, some folks have speculated Ross married a daughter of Patterson but I have found no proof… I don’t think Patterson even mentioned a daughter Sarah.   My buddy Holmes finds the wording of the Patterson will interesting and suggests it may indicate Ross Jr. was “underage” as of 1721… he further suggests that there may be a relationship of Mary Ross, wife of Ross Sr., to Robert Patterson… perhaps a daughter?)

Chowan Precinct Deeds, 1696-1723, Hofmann

#22  pg.(not given) (part of a deed) THOMAS SPIGHT of Nancamond Co. (Va.) to JOHN PERRY and JAMES GRIFFIN both of the county aforesaid  31 Apr 1700 for 2000 pounds Tobacco gives, grants and sells the within Pattin and land  Wit. ANDREW ROSS , MARY ROSS  Reg. 30 Oct. 1700

#23  pg. (not given) (part of a deed) NICHOLAS STALLINGS of Nangzamond to ROBERT ROUNDTREE of the same place    land of Bennetts creek

#24  pg. (not given) (almost completely illegible) JOHN ODOM to (?) a Conveyance of land  Wit: WILL—, HENRY WALL (?), ROBERT ROUNTREE  Reg. 30 Oct. 1700

(note neighbors STALLINGS and ODOM in the above deeds)

#193  pg. 92 (part of a deed) FFRANCIS CAMBRIDGE of Nancymond Co. Va. and ELIZABETH his wife to JOHN DAWSON of North ——-   25 Sept. 1706  consideration (not given)  75 acres of the 150 acres the sd. CAMBRIDGE purchased of JOHN WHITE the Elder on Stopping Creek by the Indian Cabin Landing, joining JAMES FLEMINS  Wit: ANDREW ROSS, MARY ROSS  Reg. (not given)

#194  pg. 92  FFRANCIS CAMBRIDGE of Nancymond Co. Va. to JOHN DAWSON of ye Albemarle Co. in ye Province of N.C.  5 Sept. 1706 for yearly rent of 1 ear of corn if demanded a lease of 75 acres on Stopping Creek and whatever stock of cattle shall be drove out  CAMBRIDGE and DAWSON bind themselves each in the penall sum of 100 L Sterling  Wit: ANDREW ROSS, MARY ROSS  Reg. (not given)

#1024  pg 495  DANIEL PUGH of Nansemond Co. Va. to SAMUEL SMITH of the Place afrsd. 8 Dec. 1707 for 2000 pounds of Tobacco  210 acres on Middle Swamp of Bennett’s Creek which issueth out of Albemarle River as by Patent to DANIEL PUGH   3 Aug. 1717 (sic)  Wit: JOHN PERRY, ANDREW ROSS, MARY ROSS  her mark  Reg. 31 8ber 1717

(the above deed of 1707 is the last I find that can support the senior Andrew Ross with wife Mary… the subsequent deeds, starting 1737, reference a wife Sarah, which I assume is son Andrew Ross Junior… I can’t determine when Ross Sr. died.  My guess is after the 1721 will of Robert Patterson and before 1737.  My assumption is that Ross Sr. was a contemporary of the father of Abraham Odium/Odam , Richard Odium, and he died 1728.)

An aside….  travel in NC back in the day… and the distances…

In 1722, the Rev. Thomas Newnam was assigned to North Carolina by the Society and settled in the Chowan section. He seems to have officiated in St. Pauls and Southwest Parishes. The latter was divided into Society and South Parish in that year. On June 29, 1722, he wrote an interesting letter to the Secretary of the S.P.G., describing his activities in some detail.

The 1st Sunday—I preach going by water and land some few miles at Esquire Duckenfields House—large enough to hold a great Congregation, till we have built a church which is hereafter to be called Society Church. The 2nd Sunday, I take a journey up to a place called Maherin—about 40 miles off—where there are an abundance of inhabitants—who also are making a collection to build a Chappel forthwith—3rd Sunday, I perform Divine Service again at Esquire Duckenfields— 4th Sunday, I go up to a place called Wicacon about 30 miles Journey—5th Sunday, I cross the sound to go to Eden Town, where the vestry there have also purposed to have a Church built out of hand—6th Sunday, I go to ye Chappell upon the south shore, about 12 miles by water and so ye 7th Sunday begin again at supra; except once every quarter I go up to a place called Ronoke about 80 miles journey and ye five last Sundays of ye year, the Vestrys do give me that I may go my rounds; and visit the remote parts of ye country—where the inhabitants live some 150 miles off—people who will never have the opportunity of hearing me or having their children baptiz’d unless I go to and amongst them.

The place referred to as Roanoke in the Rev. Mr. Newnam’s letter is of course, difficult to identify. However, it is possible that he might be referring to the Caledonia section, a large neck of land on the south side of the Roanoke River in Halifax County. 

      source:    http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/historyfiction/fullview.aspx?id=smt

This appears to be Andrew Ross Jr. (note the mention of wife “Sarah)…

Chowan Deed Books, VOL I and II, Haun

DB:W-1,277-278. 25 Nov 1735.  John ODIUM (ODOM), Chowan pct to Andrew ROSS of ye PCT? other part, 55 bbls tarr, 50 A in Chowan pct., on ye west side of ye Cypress Swamp beginning at the mouth of ye Mulberry Lickingroot Swamp Branch & thence running up sd Cypress Swamp until it comes to ye mouth of a branch called Robt. ROGERS Branch thence running up the branch to the first mentioned Station & was given & bequeathed to sd John ODIUM by the LW&T of Richd. ODIUM his Father late of the pct. afsd decd. by his will dated 12 Aug 1728…Wit: Richd. TAYLOR, Wm. (W) WOOD, Andrew (AH) HAMBLETON. Ackd. 29 Jul 1735. W. SMITH C.J.

(Andrew Ross is not designated as “Junior” in these deeds… hence my assumption that the father has died by this time.)

DB:W-1:346. 8 Jun 1737.  Edward RICHARDS to John ODIUM, all rights &c to within deed for 100 A in Chowan pct. being part of a patent granted to Timothy BAKER & by him conveyed to Edwd. RICHARDS… Wit. Abraham (A) ODIUM, Andrew ROSS, Sarah (SR) ROSS. Pvd. 19 Jul 1737 [sic]  W. SMITH C. J.

DB:W-1:347-348. 11 May 1737.  Abraham (A) ODUM, Chowan pct. to William JONES same…. by the LW&T of Rd. ODOM [1728] given to Abraham ODOM his beloved son …. Wit: Ed,? RICHARDS, A.(A) ODOM, Andrew ROSS, John SUMNER…

Odian, Abraham. grantee.

Land grant 1 April 1717.

Location: Nansemond County.

Description: 397 acres at a place called Merry hill.

Source: Land Office Patents No. 10, 1710-1719, p. 312 (Reel 10).

DB:A-1:311-312. Jno. ODOM & Andrew ROSS to Jas. ELLIS Deed No. 243 …Nov 1744.  John ODOM, Andrew ROSS of NC & John ODOM being parte oner of NC & Chowan Co. being to partyes [sic] & James ELLIS of Chowan Co of the other part, sd ROSS & ODOM for 80 bbls. of Tarr sell to James ELLIS, 100 A in Chowan Co. being part of a grater tract granted by patent to Richard ODOM & John ODOM with sd pattens dated Mar 1718 & the other dated 25 Mar 1743.. begining at a corner tree stand on the North side of the Sipres Swamp & so runing up the side of the Siprus Swamp to the mouth of the Licking Root Branch & so runing from thence up sd Siprus Swamp to the mouth of ROGERS Branch & from the mouth of ROGERS Branch runing up sd branch & binding thereon to the middle of the Second Bottom & from thence running along the centery [sic] of sd bottom to the Licking Root Branch & so runing down the Lickin [sic] Root Branch to a marked Pine standing on the South side of the Licking Root Branch & then running from the sd Pine by a line of marked trees to the first station… Wit: Aaron ODOM, James ELLIS, John ODOM.  Ackd. Jan Ct 1744.  Edmund HATCH Clk. Cur.  Regd. 30 Jan 1744.  Jas. CRAVEN Regr.

DB:G-1:71-74 ELLIS to ELLIS…. {snip] Unto my son James ELLIS my Eldest I give 66 A as I purchased of Andrew ROSS & John ODOM patented by Richard ODOM & John ODOM…    Regd 2 Nov 1753

DB:G-1:88-90.  ODOM to LANGSTON…[snip]  Wit: Andrew ROSS… Oct Ct 1753

(I’m thinking Ross was in Edgecombe County by 1742 so this is just cleaning up loose ends in Nansemond by 1753…)

Edgecombe Co., NC, County Court Minutes, Vol I, 1744-1762, Goldenwest Pub.

1744

[1]  Grand Jury Impanned. & Sworn. Wm. HA____ Foreman.

Ordd. that Andrew ROSS ____ attend the sd. Jury &c.

[20]  Admon. is granted Eliza. RODGERS on her Dec_ husbands Estate Robt. RODGERS, Abraham ODUM. Andrew ROSS Sectys. in the sum of Two hundd. Pounds in Bills. Fees Not paid.

1745

[44]   Andrew ROSS Contd. Const.

1746

[78]  John MURFREY Constable in the room of Andrew ROSS.

1760

[263]-6   Ordred that John RICKS be appointed Guardian to David BUNN Orphan of John BUNN decet. (sic) & that he give Security in the Sum of four hundred Pounds & thereupon produced Edward MOORE Esqr. & Andrew ROSS Secr.

1760

[267]-8   Robert COLEMAN is appointed Oversr. of the Road from SWEETENS Landan (sic) on Tar River to MIAL’S Bridge on SWIFT Creek.  Orded. that the following hands Work on the same, towit:

John MOORE

John HATCHER

Aaron ODUM

Joseph PITMAN

John FOUNTAIN

Joseph PHILIPS

Andw. ROSS    (I’m thinking this is probably the son and not the old man)

Arthr. PITMAN

Wm. ROLLINS

Joshua SIKES

John ONEALS

James STALLIONS   (probably the son in law of Andrew Ross)

James BROWN

Robert MANOR

Wm. ANDERSON    (‘course this is my gr, gr… gr, gr grandpappy and he witnessed old man Ross’s will… hence my interest)

Gregory STALLIONS    (probably the son of old man Gregory Stallings from Nansemond)

Moses WOODWARD

&  Robert COLEMAN

James WILLIAMS Oversr. of the Road from MIAL’S Bridge on SWIFT Creek to the Cabin Branch at James SPEIRS & that the hands of:

Robart (sic) ROSE

Simon JOHNSON

Wm. KINCHEN

Joshua PERRY

John STALLIONS

Thos. HIGS       (Hicks? my note)

Jno. SIKES

John HATCHER

John MIALS

Wm. PITMAN      (probably son in law of Andrew Ross)

Wm. HIGS

Elias HILLIARD

John EXUM

Etheldred EXUM

& James WILLIAMS Work on the same.

1761  (23 June… Court House on Tyancoca at Redmans Old Field)

[284]   pd. The last Will and testament of Danl. ROSS deceased was produced into Court by Willoby TUCKER and Wm. PITMAN two of the Exrs. therein named and prov’d by the Oath of Sherd. HAYWOOD Esqr. & the affermation of Mary ROSS two of the Witnesses thereto subscribed and the Exrs. took the Oath by Law required for their Qualification and took upon themselves the Burthen of the Execution thereof.

The Will of Andrew RASS (sic) decd. was produced into Court by Sarah RASS (sic) one of the Exrs. and the same is proved by the Oaths of John MOOR & Thos PRICE two of ye. subscribing witnesses and the sd. Exx. took the necessary Quallification. and returned an Inventory of the sd. Andrew RASS.

James STALLIONS one of the Exrs. of the above two Wills came into Court and took the necessary Quallification.

[285]-17   Administration of the Estate of Andrew ROSS is granted to Esther ROSS Widow of the Deceased.  Henry HORN & Wm. HORN Securties (sic) in the sum of 200 lbs entered into Bond.  Bond taken.  The said Esther ROSS Returned an Inventory of the Estate of the sd. Andrew ROSS into Court according to law.

Administration of the Estate of James ROSS is Granted to Willaby TUCKER & he accordly (sic) quallified Wm. LASSITER & William PITMAN securities 200 lbs & Inventory Returned by admr.

1761 Sept

[305]-27   Ordered that the Sheriff sell the Perishable Estate of (Esther crossed out) Andrew ROSS according to Law.

Ordred that the Est. of James ROSS Decd. be sold accor. to Law.

Elizabeth ROSS orphan of Andrew ROSS Deced. (be sold crossed out) came into Court and chose Sarah ROSS her Guardian giving Sec. in the sum of 300 lbs Willobe TUCKER, Simon JOHNSON Sec.

(I’m struck by the narrative at this point… Ross and all three of his sons die about the same time.  The two extant wills declare they were “sick and weak” but of sound mind… the usual claims.  But I suspect some sort of tragic “event” happened… perhaps a turpentine still explosion or “something”?  Andrew Jr and James may have been killed outright but Andrew Sr and Daniel lingered on long enough to write wills.  Since none of the wives, daughters or sons in law seem to be similarly doomed it seems to rule out a sickness such as smallpox.) 

[307]-28   John GULLY is appointed Overseer of the Road… from…MCLEMORES Branch to the Old Road that leads to Widow BRYANTS from SWIFT Creek Bridge and that the following hands Work on the same:

Moses MCLEMORE

Thomas HICKS

William MCLEMORE

Wm. PITMAN   (I’m not convinced this is the son in law of Andrew Ross… it may be a son of John Pitman who arrived in 1746… note the neighbors…)

John MCDANIEL

Daniel MCDANIEL

John GULLY

Edmd. ONAIL

Amos COTTON

& Moses PRICE

[316]   Acct. Sales of the Est. of Andw. ROSS retd. by Sheriff.

Acct. Sales of the Est. of James ROSS Deced. returned by the Sheriff.

1763 Jan  Book II

[6]  Orded that Duncan LAMON, James RIX & Jacob HILLIARD or any two of them meet & divide the Estate of Andrew ROSS junr. Decd. among the Proper Representative_ of sd. ROSS & return.

Stallings

Edge. Co. (Halifax) Db 6, page 307, deed date 16 Feb 1758, recorded

Jun Ct 1758, Gregory Stallings, Sr, Edge. Co, planter for and in

considerations of (favors & deeds done) by James Stallings, county

aforesaid, a tract of 81 acres being half the tract on where I live

beginning at a red oak on the (upper) line and down to a pine one of

the other lines, signed Gregory Stallings (mark), wit (John Fountain),

Gregory Stallings, Jr (mark).  Abstracted 5-14-06,  NCA film

C.047.40002, CTC.

APRIL, 1763:

Deed from James STALLIONS & ux to John STALLIONS proved by William FOUNTAINE

OCTOBER, 1763:

Deed from Jonathan COLEMAN to John STALLIONS proved by William FOUNTAINE and James MURPHREY.

Edge. Co. Db C, page 73, deed date (10 Oct 1763), recorded Oct Ct

1763, Jonathan Coleman, planter, Edge. Co to John Stallings, county

aforesaid for 5 shillings proc money, a tract on the north side of Buck

Swamp beginning at a red oak in Charles Coleman, Jr’s line then north

160 poles to a red oak then west 160 poles to a pine in John Stallings

line then south 38 poles to a hickory then west 40 poles to a cypress

then down the swamp 122 poles to a gum in Charles Coleman’s line then

along said line to the first station, containing 200 acres, signed

Jonathan Coleman, wit James Murphree, William Fountain (X), John

Fountain. NOTE: FILM HARD TO READ. Abstracted 8-20-05, NCA film

C.037.40002, CTC.

APRIL, 1764:

LWT of James STALLIONS proved by subscribing witness Etheldred EXUM, Elisha STALLINGS & John STALLINGS.

JANUARY, 1765:

Anne STALLIONS app’d Guardian to Jacob, Esther & Elizabeth STALLIONS, orphans of James STALLIONS, dec’d. She accordingly entered into bond of £500 with John WOODARD & John STALLIONS Securities.

OCTOBER, 1767:

Deed from Gregory STALLIONS to Jno. STALLIONS proved by John SIKES

MAY, 1768:

Gregory STALLIONS a very aged and poor person is ordered to be recommended to the next General Assembly as a proper object to be exempt from public taxes and duties.

Deed from STALLINGS to JONES proved by Elias HILLIARD

From Edgecombe Co, NC Court Minutes of Feb 1770:

John WOODARD and John STALLIONS who were security for Anne STALLIONS who was Guardian for Anne STALLIONS, Orphan of James STALLIONS comes into court and moves that Arthur O NEAL who intermarried with the said Anne STALLIONS be summoned to appear at the next court to give other security.

Arthur O’Neal marries Ann (Ross Stallings) the widow of James Stallings d1764. 

Edge. Co. Db 2, page 145, deed date 28 Apr 1772, recorded Oct Ct 1774, Arthur O’Neal and Ann O’Neal his wife, Edge. Co to Nicholas Skinner, county aforesaid for 20 pds proc money, a tract on the south side of Stoney Creek that Andrew Ross gave to his daughter Ann during her life, it being part of the land that Andrew Ross took up bearing date 25 Mar 1741 and gave to his two daughters, Ann and Elizabeth, signed Arthur Oneal (X), Ann Oneal (X), wit John Davenport, Joel Pitman. Abstracted 9-22-05, RD copy, CTC.

MAY, 1772:

Arthur O NEAL, appointed Guardian of Esther & Elijah STALLINGS, orphans of James STALLINGS, he accordingly entered into bond of £150 Procl. With Isham O NEAL, Benjamin O NEAL and Nicholas SKINNER.

AUGUST, 1772:

Elijah PROCTOR, a base born son of Mary PROCTOR, age 13 years be bound to Elisha STALLIONS to learn the art & mystery of a cooper.

Deed of Sale: John STALLINGS to James STALLINGS – proved by Elisha STALLINGS.

Deed of Sale: John STALLINGS to Willis STALLINGS – proved by Elisha STALLINGS.

Deed of Sale: Gregory STALLINGS, Jr to Elisha STALLINGS – proved by John ONEAL.

Ordered Abraham EVANS to oversee the road from Falling Run to the Great Branch near GREGORY STALLIONS Path & that the hands of Jesse HARE, Sherwood HAYWOOD & Josiah MURPHREE work under him.

Ordered that Daniel WOODARD be overseer of the road from the Great Branch near GREGORY STALLINGS Path to Swift Creek Bridge & all the hands who formerly worked under WOODARD (except those ordered to work under Abraham Evans) together with the hands of Robert DIGGER & William ELLINOR work on the same.

Arthur ONEAL, guardian of Jacob, Esther & Elizabeth STALLINGS, orphans of James STALLINGS exhibited inventory of estate of said orphans.

AUGUST, 1779:

Deed of Sale:

William TAYLOR to Henry HORN – proved Daniel ROSS

John STALLINGS, Sr. to James STALLINGS – proved by Etheldred PHILIPS

James STALLINGS to John STALLINGS – proved by Etheldred PHILIPS

NOVEMBER, 1779:

Deed of Sale: Etheldred PHILIPS to John STALLINGS – Ack’d

AUGUST, 1780:

LWT of John STALLINGS, proved by Elisha STALLINGS, the Executor therein named, qualified accordingly. Inventory also returned on oath of Executor.

MAY, 1781:

LWT of Daniel ROSS – proved by Elisha BATTLE & Michael HORN & Executors

qualified.

Deed of Sale: John STALLINGS & James TEAT to Reuben JONES – proved by Etheldred

PHILIPS

MAY, 1783:

Grant to John STALLINGS

Deed of Sale: Aaron MAINER to Willis STALLINGS – proved by Etheldred PHILIPS.

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Backing up a bit… tracking when Andrew Ross arrived in Edgecombe County…

In 1739 Abraham Odium (Odum) (Odam) obtained a grant in Edgecombe Co… also note Kallum (Callum) Ross who I suppose is the brother of Andrew Ross Jr:

Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council, North Carolina. Council, February 20, 1739 – February 23, 1739, Volume 04, Pages 342-343

At a Council held at Newton the 20th February 1739. Present His Excellency the Governor.The Honōble Will Smith Esqr Member of his Majestys Council, The Honōble Math Rowan Esqr Member of his Majestys Council, The Honōble Robt Halton Esqr Member of his Majestys Council, The Honōble Edwd Moseley Esqr Member of his Majestys Council

Read Sundry Petitions, Vizt

Jno. Starkey in trust for Sol & Alex Grant 640 Onslow, Richd Braswel 100 Edgecombe, Do 100 Do, Joseph Howel 300 Do, Wm Slam 230 Do, Abra. Odam 300 Do, Sam Kennedy 100 Do, Elias Fort 640 Do, Jas Ard 300 Do, Wm Wilson (300 retd) 640 Craven, Jno Parker 155 Do, Peter Mallard 160 Craven, John Calkins 440 N. Hanover, Do 200 Do, Jas Minor 320 Do, Robt Williams 640 Beaufort, Ozborn Jeffries for a resurvey, Jno Hodgson 312 Chowan, Jacob Odam 212 Do, Do 640 Do, Robert Williams 350 Beaufort, Simon Alderson 420 Do, Kellum Ross 640 Chowan Granted

Also in 1739, George Sweeting obtains a patent for 200 acres in Edgecombe…

At a Council held at Newbern Tuesday 20 November 1739    ”George Sweeting 200 Edgcombe”…

Hofmann, Abstracts of Deeds, Edgecombe Precinct, 1732-1758, pg 180…

pg. 138  GEORGE SWEETING of Craven Co. to ANDREW ROSS of Edge, Co.

26 Aug. 1742  10 pounds cash  200 acres on the north side of Tar river, joining

an island and a pocosin  as by patent to the sd. SWEETING in 1739/40  Wit:

JOHN LAWRENCE, ABRAHAM ODAM X his mark, JOSEPH ROGERS X his

mark  Reg. Edge. Co. Feb. Ct. 1742  R. Forster C. Ct.

(The reference above to “an island” makes me think this land may be near Stoney Creek near the modern town of Rocky Mount.  Ross later in his will references the area.)

So… by 1742 Andrew Ross Jr of Nansemond is clearly living in Edgecombe County.

My quest is to figure out where and when his daughter Judith married one William Pitman.  Of particular significance, I think, is the fact that all of the mentioned Ross’ appear to be Quakers and as we all know Quaker fathers prefer (under threat of dismissal from the church) that their daughters also marry Quakers.  Therefore, I assume William Pitman was a Quaker.  The prime suspect I have in mind for that guy is William Pitman of Surry Co. VA, who leaves only scanty records to follow… but the main arrow in my quiver is the likelihood that he was a Quaker.  But, to the contrary, I see nothing to suspect James Stalling. who married Ann Ross, was a Quaker.

I have never found any reference whatsoever to a Pitman living east of the Chowan River in this time period.  That includes the Blackwater River concerning Nansemond County.  The Quaker Pitmans came from Surry County near the area roughly where Isle of Wight and Surry Co meet at the Blackwater River.  Therefore I suppose that Judith Ross met and married William Pitman “perhaps” in the mid 1740s in Edgecombe County.  The earliest definite record I find William Pitman and Andrew Ross is in a deed reference of 1754.

I propose that the husband of Judith Ross was the William Pitman mentioned in this document:

1738    (p. 48) 21 Mar 1738 . . . Account current of Estate of Elizabeth Champion, decd., by Charles Champion, administrator, lists “Col. Allen for Probation of my father’s will”, “for my mother”, Capt. Ruffin, Benjamin Champion, Benjamin Bell, John Wall, Sr., Absolan Atkinson, Mary Champion, Joseph King, John Bynum, Charles Kea, Nicholas Valentine, Samuel Lancaster, Jr., Lemuel Hargrove, Jr., Augustus Hargove, Anselm Baily, Henry Atkins, William Lancaster, Lawrence Lancaster, William Nettle, William Coker, John Coker, William George, Robert Mercer, Robert Lancaster, Jr., Thomas Lyles, WILLIAM PITMAN, James Stringfield, Benjamin Baily, BENJAMIN PITMAN, Richard Blow, Elizabeth Champion, John Waller, Jr., Thomas Riggon, William Barrow, Thomas Hardyman, Francis Riggon, William Davidson, JOSEPH PITMAN, Thomas Holiman, Jr., William Little, Thomas Bell, Samuel Person, Allen Warrin, Jr., James Bennit, Jr., John Judkins, Robert Landcaster (sic), James Washington and John Clarke (Surry Co VA).     from post of Guy Baker…  http://genforum.genealogy.com/pitman/messages/1565.html

 He would be the brother of Joseph and Benjamin Pitman (known Quaker).  I suppose all 3 to have arrived in Edgecombe in the mid 1740s… or so.  Benjamin is recorded as purchasing land in 1749, Joseph in 1750.  Another candidate for a brother to above is James Pitman who first obtains land in 1742.  Yet another is John Pitman who arrived in 1746 and came from modern Southampton Co., Va.  My presumption is that these were the sons of the mystery William Pitman of Surry, brother of Thomas Pitman d.1730.   That’s the theory anyway (in my mind).
 
So I can’t figure out when this William Pitman (wife Judith Ross) dies…       Benjamin dies 1755… Joseph in 1763.
 

1754   pg. 148   I. ROBERT MAYNOR of Edge. Co. stand indebted to JACOB ODOM of Chowan Co.  6 Nov. 1754 in the sum of 35 pounds 4 shillings  Wit: AARON ODOM, ANDREW ROSS (?), WILLIAM PITMAN   Reg. Edge. Co. Nov. Ct. 1754  B. Wynns C. Ct.    Hofman, pg 53

pg. 164   JACOB ODOM of Chowan Co. to ROBERT MAYNOR of Edge. Co. 6 Nov. 1754 15 pounds current money of Va.  100 acres more or less, joining Indian branch and AARON ODOM  part of a grant to the sd. JACOB for 250 acres 13 May 1741   Wit: ANDREW ROSS (?), WILLIAM PITTMAN  Reg. Edge Co. Nov. Ct. 1754  B. Wynns C. Ct.    Hofman, pg 55      Same Court day…

Can we “presume” that William Pitman had married Judith Ross by this time (1754) ?… I don’t know.   Wm Pitman seems to be living near the Swift Creek property per the “Road Orders” accounts in the Court Minutes of 1761. He is also listed alongside Andrew Ross and James Ross in the 1754 Militia Rolls.  This another reason for my conjecture that he arrived in Edgecombe in the mid to late 1740s, coincident with the arrival of several Pitman brothers from Surry County, VA.

So… the complicated “estates” of Andrew Ross and his three sons fall apart with their deaths in 1761 and the sons in law are left to pick up the pieces… again, my main interest is the trail of William Pitman…

1762       28 Dec. Willoby (W) Tucker and Sarah Tucker of Edgecombe Co. to WM. PITMAN of same, for £20 Virginia money a tract of 200 acres of land, it being a granville grant to Andrew Ross bearing date March 26, 1749 and by said Andrew Ross given to said Sarah Tucker in his last Will. Wit: Aaron Odom, James (X) Stallens, Robt. (X) Rodgers. DB 1, p. 460.

1764       9 Jan. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to William Horn of same, for £30 Proc. money a tract of 305 acres adjoining Ross, Thomas Williams, John Moore, Henry Horn, Watkins, Barnes, and PITMAN, it being a Granville grant ot said PITMAN bearing date April 1, 1763. Wit: Thos. Williams, Thos. Baker. DB C, p. 213.

 1763 9 Jul. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN AND JUDETH (X) PITMAN of Edgecome Co. to John Hatcher, Junr. of same, for 33/6/8 Proc. money a tract of 160 acres on Sapony Creek adjoining Stephen Batchelor, it being the whole of a Granville grant to Daniel Ross bearing date March 17, 1761, and by said Daniel Ross given to Andrew Ross in his last will, and by said Andrew Ross given to said Judith Pitman in his last will. Wit: Artur (X) PITMAN, John Hatcher, William Defnal. DB C, p. 60.
Source: N C Archives
Written: 1761

 Ross, Daniel, will date 6 Apr 1761, proved Jun Ct 1761; In the name of 
God Amen... I Daniel Ross of Edgecombe County... being very sickly and 
weak in body but of perfect mind and memory thanks be given unto God... 
I give and recommend my soul into the hands of God that gave it and for 
my body I recommend to the earth to be buried in a Christian Like & 
decent manner... nothing doubting but at the general resurrection I 
shall receive the same again by the might power of God... I give and 
bequeath unto my father, Andrew Ross all my real & personal estate all 
my lands & tennaments goods & chattles and lastly I appoint my 
aforesaid father Andrew Ross (Williba Tucker) William Pittman & (James 
Stallins) executors of my Last Will & Testament, signed Daniel Ross 
(D), wit Sherd Haywood, Mary Ross (mark), Saray Tucker (mark).  Proved 
by oath of Sherd Haywood, Esq & Willoba Tucker; William Pittman & James 
Stallings qualified as executors.  Will Book A, page 44.  Abstracted 3-
25-06, NCA film C.037.80001, CTC.


Additional Comments:
Edgecombe County Will Book A
1765       16 Jan. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to JOHN PITMAN of same, £35 Virginia money a 166 acre plantation lying on both sides of Stoney Creek adjoining Andrew Ross and Jacob Barnes, it being a tract granted from Eal Granville to Andrew Ross by deed bearing date Feb 18, 1761 and by Andrew Ross given to said WILLIAM PITMAN in his last will and testament. Wit: John Ricks, Wm. Horn, John Moore. DB C, p. 322.
I have a somewhat secretive email buddy… a.k.a. “Holmes”… that stops by occasionally and attempts to keep me on the straight and narrow path…
He says:
All kinds of issues here, including people selling the same land twice.Andrew Ross had several grants.  The one on Feb. 28, 1761 was for 166 acres on Stoney Creek.  This is the land he left (along with land on Sapponey Creek) to daughter Judith.  It is the same land William Pittman sells to John Pittman in 1765, but without Judith in the picture.  This is because she had died.  He says he inherited the land from Andrew Ross, which is only partially true, since Andrew really left the land to Judith, and the land would only become fully vested in William Pittman at Judith’s death, which has obviously occurred between 1763 (when she cosigns a deed with William, selling the Sapponey Creek land to John Hatcher) and 1765 when William sells the Stoney Creek land to John Pittman.
so…Judith (Ross) Pitman appears to die between 1763 and 1765.   

1770       24 Feb. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN and wife, MARGET (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Thomas Tucker of same, for £75 Proc. money a tract of 150 acres adjoining Green Hill’s line, it being the upper part of a deed granted by Earl Granville to James Tucker on May 10, 1762. Wit: Thomas Harbirt, Mathias Maning, Junr. DB D, p. 339.

Here it gets interesting… is this the new wife of William Pitman?  And who is the John Pitman that William sold the land to in 1765?   … according to Holmes:

So this means that Marget could well be the second wife of William Pittman.This John Pittman shows up later as John Pittman, Sr., in Edgecombe Deed Book 2, page 119.
April 21, 1774
John (X) Pittman, Sr. to his son John Pittman, for love and affection
100 acres on both sides of Stoney Creek, including the plantation where the said John Pittman, Sr. now lives, on the south side of the creek, being part of the tract of 160 acres that was a Granville grant to Andrew Ross dated Feb. 28, 1761, and conveyed by said Ross to William Pittman in his will, and by William Pittman conveyed to the said John Pittman, by deed dated Jan. 16, 1765.  This deed was to take effect at the death of the said John Pittman, Jr.OK, the acreage changes from 166 to 160 acres.  Small potatoes.  If John Pittman, Sr. buys it from William PIttman in 1765, and then gives 110 of it to son John in 1774, then he only has 50 acres left.But Joel PIttman ended up with 110 acres of it in 1782, selling it to Isome Hines.  I can find no record of how Joel got it.

Edgecombe Deed Book 3, page 70
Dec. 31, 1774
John (X) Pittman to Micajah Ravel, both of Edgecombe
For 50 pounds, 50 acres on the south bank of Stoney Creek, adj. Barnes, Ravel, and Jacob Stallings, being part of a tract granted to Andrew Ross Feb. 28, 1761.
Witnessed by Nicholas Skinner, Joel(X) Pittman, Jonathan (X) Downing
Also signed by John (X) Pittman, Sarah (X) Pittman, and Ann (X) PIttman   So this is the missing 50 acres.  Note that Joel Pittman ends up with the remaining 110 acres.  My guess is that the four people signing are John the father, his wife Sarah, John the son, and the son’s wife Ann.  Sarah signed it because she was married to John the father.  John the son and his wife signed it because they had some right to it.  The only reason I can explain why they had a right may relate to that deed, earlier that year, when John the father deeds some of this land to John the son…Of course, I may have Sarah and Ann backwards.

Holmes and I are at a loss to explain how William Pitman could have a grandson as old as the one mentioned in the above deed?   My guess at this point is that the John Pitman that he sold the land to was his brother who I think I have established as arriving in Edgecombe in 1746 from Isle of Wight (now modern Southampton).

When did William Pitman die?   What was the relationship of John Pitman and son John?  Who was Joel Pitman?

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Here is the crux of the conundrum… if you will…

John Pitman… brother of William Pitman?

The lack of records forces me and Holmes to the mercy of conjecture concerning these folks.  One of my favorite sites for primary documents is “familysearch.org”… and there is a gap in the records which could explain these missing years…  Estates, 1764-1772 is available but then drops off until Estates, 1783-1788… hence the missing records.  We think William Pitman and John Pitman died during this period… the “son” John Pitman is up in the air but “needs” to die to explain how Joel gets the land… pretty simple, really, but difficult to prove.  I find both mentioned in the “Court Minutes” in Road Orders and such but nothing of anything genealogical that you can hang a hat on.

1765       16 Jan. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to JOHN PITMAN of same, £35 Virginia money a 166 acre plantation lying on both sides of Stoney Creek adjoining Andrew Ross and Jacob Barnes, it being a tract granted from Eal Granville to Andrew Ross by deed bearing date Feb 18, 1761 and by Andrew Ross given to said WILLIAM PITMAN in his last will and testament. Wit: John Ricks, Wm. Horn, John Moore. DB C, p. 322.

This John Pittman shows up later as John Pittman, Sr., in Edgecombe Deed Book 2, page 119.  

April 21, 1774

John (X) Pittman, Sr. to his son John Pittman, for love and affection 100 acres on both sides of Stoney Creek, including the plantation where the said John Pittman, Sr. now lives, on the south side of the creek, being part of the tract of 160 acres that was a Granville grant to Andrew Ross dated Feb. 28, 1761, and conveyed by said Ross to William Pittman in his will, and by William Pittman conveyed to the said John Pittman, by deed dated Jan. 16, 1765.

If John Pittman, Sr. buys it from William PIttman in 1765, and then gives 110 of it to son John in 1774, then he only has 50 acres left.     But Joel PIttman ended up with 110 acres of it in 1782, selling it to Isome Hines.      (Holmes)

Edgecombe Deed Book 3, page 70

Dec. 31, 1774

John (X) Pittman to Micajah Ravel, both of Edgecombe

For 50 pounds, 50 acres on the south bank of Stoney Creek, adj. Barnes, Ravel, and Jacob Stallings, being part of a tract granted to Andrew Ross Feb. 28, 1761. 

Witnessed by Nicholas Skinner, Joel(X) Pittman, Jonathan (X) Downing

Also signed by John (X) Pittman, Sarah (X) Pittman, and Ann (X) PIttman

Edge Minutes 1775-1785  Bk III

[34]  Jan 1776

A Deed of Sale from John PITMAN, John PITMAN (sic), Sarah PITMAN & Ann PITMAN to Micajah REVIL prov’d by the oath of Joel PITMAN.

So this is the missing 50 acres.  Note that Joel Pittman ends up with the remaining 110 acres.  My guess is that the four people signing are John the father, his wife Sarah, John the son, and the son’s wife Ann.  Sarah signed it because she was married to John the father.  John the son and his wife signed it becuase they had some right to it.  The only reason I can explain why they had a right may relate to that deed, earlier that year, when John the father deeds some of this land to John the son…

Of course, I may have Sarah and Ann backwards.  (Holmes)

1765       2 Feb. Elisha Battle of Edgecombe Co., guardian to Jeremiah Hilliard, orphan of Jacob Hilliard a ten year lease of two plantations lying on both sides of Compass Creek: (1) the plantation called Hilliard’s old field at an annual rent of £4 yr. (2) the plantation whereon Wm Norris formerly lived at an annual rent of £. Wit: JOEL PITMAN, John Battle, Elisha Battle, Junr. DB C, p. 288.

(There seems to be 2 Joels…my guess is this Joel could be son of Thomas Pitman d.1754… I think he shows up later in Robeson/Bladen County, NC… born, say, 1745ish. )

Joel in 1772…  born roughly by 1752?… he just doesn’t fit as a grandson of Wm. Pitman/Judith Ross         …a “nephew” would fit… the guess at this point of research is he is another son of John Pitman who I suspect is a brother of William Pitman.

Edge. Co. Db 2, page 145, deed date 28 Apr 1772, recorded Oct Ct 1774, Arthur O’Neal and Ann O’Neal his wife, Edge. Co to Nicholas Skinner, county aforesaid for 20 pds proc money, a tract on the south side of Stoney Creek that Andrew Ross gave to his daughter Ann during her life, it being part of the land that Andrew Ross took up bearing date 25 Mar 1741 and gave to his two daughters, Ann and Elizabeth, signed Arthur Oneal (X), Ann Oneal (X), wit John Davenport, Joel Pitman. Abstracted 9-22-05, RD copy, CTC.

EC-DB-3-212: Jacob (X) Barnes of EC to Nicholas Skinner and William Barnes of same, 17 Dec 1776, for 25 sh. Virginia money a parcel of two acres lying on both side of Stoney Creek at the falls of the creek adjoining Joel Pitman, it being part of a tract taken up by Jacob Barnes, Sr. bearing date 10 Nov 1757. Wit: John Moore, Elisha Moore, Jno. Deavenport.

Abstracts of Early Deeds of Nash County North Carolina Books 1-6 1778-1813

By Joseph W. Watson

DB 1-181 WILLIAM BATCHELOR of Nash Co. to THOMAS HUNTER of same, Jan. 1,

1782, for 150 pds. 200 acres on the north side of Stony Creek on O’Neal’s

Branch adjoining William Barnes and Joel Pittman, it being part of a tract

said Batchelor bought of Wm. Horn, which said Horn bought of Benja. O’Neal,

and part of another tract that said Horn bought of William Pittman. Wit:

Jacob Dickenson, John Bonds, and William Skinner.

DB 1-187 JOEL PITMAN of Nash Co. to ISOME HINES of same, March 30, 1782, for

110 pds. Virginia money 110 acres on Stony Creek adjoining Thomas Hunter,

William Barnes, and James Barnes, it being part of a tract taken up by

Andrew Ross on Feb. 28, 1761. Wit: Nicholas Skinner and Sarah Skinner.

DB 3-344 ISAM HINES of Nash Co. to DAVID DANIEL of same, April 30, 1785, for

150 pds. Specie 110 acres on the north side of Stony Creek adjoining Thomas

Hunter William Barnes, and James Barnes, it being part of a tract granted to

Andrew Ross by Earl Granville on Feb. 28, 1761 and conveyed by Joel Pitman

to said Hines on March 30, 1782. Wit: Joseph Exum and Howell Ellin.

DB 5-376 CORDAL HUNTER of Nash Co. to DAVID DANIEL of same, Oct. 1, 1811,

for $700.00 a tract of 200 acres on the north side of Stony Creek adjoining

William Barnes and Joel Pitman. Wit: D. Daniel and James Hunter.

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UPDATE:  this appears to be the mystery Joel Pitman d.1788 (note in the papers the neighbor William Barnes)

To recap my theory a bit more… the above Pitmans, i.e., William, John Sr/Jr and this Joel are a distinctly different branch than the more researched Thomas Pitman (d.1730) clan.  I think these guys are from the brother of Thomas d.1730… that being William Pitman of Virginia (who is still much the mystery fellow).

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A recap….  some crib notes if you will…

Andrew Ross  Will 1761

wife Sarah “all my moveable Estate”

daughter Sarah “One plantation at Sappony meadows”

daughter Judith  “piece of wood Land on Sappony Creek likewise another Piece on Stony Creek”

daughter Ann  “an the heirs of her body the Plantation on which My Son James Lived on Stony Creek”

daughter Mary “Plantation on which I Live after my Wifes Deseace or Marriage”

Item ” I Lend my Daughter in Law Easth Ross the Plantation on which My Son Andrew Late Lived During her widowhood and afterwards I Give the Same to my daughter Elizabeth & her heirs for Ever and that During the Said Esthers widowhood My aforesd Daughter Elizabeth Shall not be molested or debard from any other Part of the Same Except the Plantation and I Likewise Give to my Said Daughter Elizabeth after my wifes deceas or marriage my negro fellow named Jon”

clothes to “my three Son in Laws Willaby Tucker  William Pitman  and James Stallings

Executors: wife and sons in law

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and some Tucker notes…

Tucker

Edge. Co. Db 00, page 167, deed date ( ) Sep 1760, recorded Dec Ct

1760, Thomas Tucker, Edge. Co to his son, Willibe Tucker for me

hereunto moving and more especially for the value and good will that I

have & bear unto my son, a tract of land lying on the north side of

Peachtree Creek beginning at the mouth of a branch so running up the

branch to the (line) then along the line westward unto the corner tree

( ) then along a line (westward) unto the said creek then down the

creek to the first station, containing the plantation whereon I now

live (25 acres), signed Thomas Tucker (X), wit Micajah Thomas, Samuel

Bridgers (proved). NOTE: VERY HARD TO READ. Abstracted 12-30-05, NCA

film C.037.40001, CTC.

March 5, 1778: Will of Thomas Tucker, Senior, of Edgecombe Co, NC 

Willoby Tucker

Elizabeth Tucker 

Betty Tucker 

Thomas Tucker, Jr.

Minutes, Court of Common Pleas and Quarter Sessions, Nash County, various dates, North Carolina

Department of Archives and History, Raleigh, N.C. April 1780, Isham Gandy leased land to William Whiddon.

Also Nash County Civil Action Papers, 1751-1783, North Carolina Department of Archives and History, Raleigh, N.C., December, 19, 1784, Isham Gandy vs. Tobias Hunney; January 5, 1783, Isham Gandy vs. Willoughby Tucker; April 7, 1783, Willoughby Tucker vs. Isham Gandy; January 1783, Isham Gandy vs. Matthew Brantley (200 lbs of sugar).

Edge. Co. Db C, page 366, deed date 2 Aug 1765, recorded Oct Ct 1765,

(William Defnell), Edge. Co to William Pitman, county aforesaid for 25

pds, VA, a tract of land that was granted by Earl Granville to Jas

Tucker dated (blank) beginning at the corner an ash in the head of a

meadow then north along that line to a corner pine at Green Hill’s line

then east along Green Hill’s line to a line of marked trees to the old

principle line then west along the principle line to the first station,

containing 150 acres, it being the upper part of the said Jas. Tucker’s

survey, signed William Defnell, wit (Tho. ), (Jas. Vaughn). Abstracted

10-5-05, NCA film C.037.40002, CTC.

1762       28 Dec. Willoby (W) Tucker and Sarah Tucker of Edgecombe Co. to WM. PITMAN of same, for £20 Virginia money a tract of 200 acres of land, it being a granville grant to Andrew Ross bearing date March 26, 1749 and by said Andrew Ross given to said Sarah Tucker in his last Will. Wit: Aaron Odom, James (X) Stallens, Robt. (X) Rodgers. DB 1, p. 460.

1763       15 Jul. James (X) Tucker of Edgecombe Co. to Henry watkins of same, for £20 a tract of 150 acres, it being part of a Granville grant to said Tucker for 700 acres bearing date Sept. 17, 1744. Wit: John coates, WILLIAM PITMAN, John Thomas. DB C, p. 52.

1765       6 Feb. John Cotis (Coatis) of Edgecombe Co. to WILLIAM PITMAN of same, for £14 Virginia money a tract of 150 acres on Tarkill Branch and Sikes’ Branch adjoining James Tucker and William Defnall. Wit: Thos. Harbirt, Henery (X) Watkins. DB 0, p. 149.

1765       Feb. John Coatis to WM PITMAN, £10 Virginia money a certain tract of land on Tarkil Branch and Sikes’ Branch adjoining James Tucker and William Defnell. Wit: Thomas Harburt, Henry watkins. DB C, p. 434.

1765       2 Aug. William Defnell of Edgecombe Co. to WILLIAM PITMAN of same, for £25 Virginia money a tract of 150 acres adjoining Green Hill, it being the upper part of a survey granted to James Tucker by Earl Granville. Wit: Thomas Harburt, Jas. Vaughan. DB C, p. 366.

1769       2 Mar. James Tucker of Edgecombe Co. to Thomas Harbirt, for £2 Proc. money a tract of 40 acres on the south bank of Little Sapony Swamp and on Barrentine’s Branch, it being part of a patent granted to William Bennet bearing date 20 Apr 1745 and conveyed by said Bennett to James Tucker. Wit: Stephen Batchelor, James Tucker, WM. PITMAN, William Vester. DB D, p. 150.

1770       24 Feb. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN and wife, MARGET (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Thomas Tucker of same, for £75 Proc. money a tract of 150 acres adjoining Green Hill’s line, it being the upper part of a deed granted by Earl Granville to James Tucker on May 10, 1762. Wit: Thomas Harbirt, Mathias Maning, Junr. DB D, p. 339.

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February 13, 2012 at 7:12 pm

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  1. Thank you for all this wonderful information! I just got my autosomal DNA test results back from Ancestry.com and a few matches had the Ross surname in their tree. To date, I had only found Andrew Ross, Jr. in my line. Since Andrew Sr. was a neighbor of my William Barnes ancestor, I feel sure that I’m headed in the right direction.

    Patricia Land

    July 15, 2012 at 6:11 am

    • My pleasure… good luck on your search.
      Marc

      anderson1951

      July 15, 2012 at 8:15 am

  2. THE COLONIAL RECORDS OF NORTH CAROLINA 975.6 n2N 1993 V.1
    P 494 July 1698 at top of page.

    Henry Norman proved Rites for eight persons transported Into this County Whoes Names are under Wreten vis him Selfe Mary his wife Andrew Ross Mary Ross Thomas Ross John Simmons Georg Waide James Ross
    (I am told they qualified for land if they transported people so transported does not have to mean when or where.)
    3.
    p. 427 (1694 on earlier entry)

    Andrew Ross proves y
    evidence whose names are therunto suscribed is Letter of Attorney fro, Robert
    Scott. Ordered to be Recorded.

    p. 433
    Thomas Stanton arrested to answer
    Andrew Rosle attorney of Robert Scott in a plea of y case…..

    Les

    January 26, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    • Those early headright references leave me a little fuzzy headed… I’m not sure if the old boys were selling/bartering them between each other like cash or they were legitimate qualifying demands for grants. I’m pretty sure I have the old man and son Andrew placed correctly on my map in that area known as Nancemond. But in the 1690s Virginia and Carolina each squabbled over the area as sometimes Virginia and sometimes Perquimans County. The old man Andrew seems to have had some government function at one point as a “clerk” or whatever… He definitely received a Virginia grant but these Carolina headrights pop up… I suspect as wee bit of shady shenanigans perhaps…

      anderson1951

      January 27, 2013 at 9:44 am

  3. Thanks for all the good information. I have been looking at some of the other NE, NC Rosses and see what could be some similarities. For example, the online book, Life and Times of Elder Reuban Ross, 1782 says William Ross Came to Martin County early, from Virginia. Book also gives tradition that some Rosses came as a group to Virginia and migrated, in addition to Martin County, to Pennsylvania and Maryland.

    V L Ross

    August 21, 2013 at 10:17 am

    • Excuse me, that is 1882 for book by James Ross that has story some Virginia Rosses arrived from Scotland as a group. 1700,s book would be a real find. Glad to share some of the other stuff on North East-NC Rosses I have.

      L Ross

      August 25, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    • Thanks for this great information on this site. I found a string of posts rootsweb archiver ross, 2010, that included a society of friends Alexander Ross, earlier in Virginia, with connections to NC, Maryland, and Penn.

      L Ross

      April 22, 2014 at 10:33 pm

      • There was an Andrew Ross, Lawyer of Edinburgh, according to the Colonial Families of Philadelphia, who was brother of George Ross of Philadelphia, who migrated from Balblair Scotland. And he had another brother named Hugh, who some think was the Hugh in Elizabeth City, Virginia from 1692 to 1700, which is next to where Andrew was. William Ross son of Hugh went to Martin County, NC, where this legend of a Penn connection is from. Some of these Martin County Rosses went to Onslo County, NC, where an Isaac Ross was from Woodbridge, Middlesex, Virginia about 1750 or 1760. Prior to that, Isaac Ross and Gene Brown were in Rowan and Granville after leaving Woodbridge, NJ in about 1743. Your Andrew had a piece of property in Granville. Also in Granville was John Ross grandson of Hugh Ross and Margaret. John Ross left Elizabeth City, Virginia and was married to Sarah Jackson in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jersey in 1759 and was in Granville in 1760 where he had a brother James Ross who was there in Granville since 1747 as a Constable.
        Andrew Ross of Balblair and Edinburgh the lawyer had a son Andrew a Surgeon of Jamaica says the Col Families of Phili. In Middlesex, New Jersey was an Alexander Ross who died in 1775 and says he had property in Jamaica. Physicians of Middlesex says he was from Scotland, and in the 1777 Will of Sister Jean of Alexander, she mentions a friend of Edinburgh. And a bother William and his son Walter in NC. I found a Walter Ross in this Onslo County. NC who fought in the Revolution. And both Alexander Ross, the Phyician of Scotland, Jamaica and Middlesex, and sister Jean of Woodbridge, Middlesex, have John Ross of Philadelphia on their wills handling some of their money.
        So there are some similarities of Names, location and occupation. That is all I know so far pretty much. Except that this other researcher thinks Alexander the Quaker of Virginia was related to the Quaker Rosses of Maryland and Penn and the later Rosses of Philli, which I can’t verify. Might be something here for you. Didn’t find a 1700’s book, but a couple of 1700’s wills.

        L Ross

        September 12, 2015 at 4:49 am

      • That was Middlesex, New Jersey, not Virgina. Alexander Ross, Physician of Middlesex according to Wikipedia owned Ross Hall in Piscataway, Middlesex. After his death his widow Sarah allowed George Washinton to use Ross Hall for headquarters during the Revolution and for a celebration. The Will of Sister Jean was in Woodbridge where Isaac Ross who moved to Granville, Rowan and Onslow, NC was from. Also of Woodbridge was a John Ross, wife Ursula, who was part owner of the boat Humming Bird and mentions a deceased brother John of Piscatay in 1764. Piscataway was where Robert Ross who witnessed the Will of John Ross of Elizabeth City, Virginia, who then was in Granville in 1760. My my.

        L Ross

        September 12, 2015 at 2:35 pm

  4. I was fascinated to find this amazing website, with the exhaustive information on Andrew Ross (d. 1761). I believe his daughter Elizabeth married a relative of mine, (William?) Benjamin O’Neal, who may have been a brother to Arthur O’Neal who married Ann Ross, widow Stallings. There’s a 1764 Edgecombe record of the marriage of Elizabeth Ross & Benjamin O’Neal. Legend has it that (William?) Benjamin O’Neal was born in Fauquier Co., VA c. 1727, and died in Anson County, North Carolina circa Dec. 1835, aged 108 years. I believe he was married prior to his marriage to Elizabeth Ross in 1764. I believe my direct ancestor, William O’Neal (died c. 1796, Johnson Co., NC) was a son of a previous marriage as he was married in 1784 to a lady who’d been born c. 1754, so I think he was born prior to the 1764 marriage of Ben O’Neal & Elizabeth Ross. Benjamin was in Johnston Co. in the 1780s, in Wake Co. in the 1790s, and moved to Anson County circa 1802/7. However he retained a tract of land in Johnston Co which he did not sell until 1810, and at about the same time, my William O’Neal’s widow and children moved to Anson Co., where they lived near Ben.

    The children I believe belonged to (William?) Benjamin O’Neal were:

    1. William O’Neal (d. circa 1796, Johnston Co., NC) married Phereba Charity Claney (Clenny) in 1784. I believe she was a widow, possibly her maiden name was Gray. (Thomas Gray signed their marriage bond.) They had three sons, Kindred O’Neal (c.1785-1855, m. Culia Hayles, my line), William O’Neal (c.1785-1867, m. Nancy) and Wright O’Neal (c.1790-aft. 1840, went to Georgia). I believe Charity Clenny (c. 1780-1850s, Mrs. William Hatcher) was an older half sister, and Benjamin Clenny (c.1775) may have been an older half brother. Phereba was liviing in Johnston Co. in 1800. Kindred married Culia Hayles (1790s-1840s) in Johnston Co. in Feb. 1810, but by the time of the 1810 census, they were in Anson Co. Wright was living next door and I believe Phereba was in his household. And William was 2 houses away. In Oct. 1810, Benjamin O’Neal of Anson sold a tract of land in Johnston Co., and the deed was witnessed by “Chatman” Hayles. I believe Chapman Hayles was the father of Kindred’s wife.

    2. Sarah “Sallie” O’Neal (c. 1760s-1866) m. John Edwards (1757-1814) in Johnston Co. in 1787 and later lived in Anson. Sallie was listed as being 100 years old in both the 1850 and 1860 census! She was mentioned in her brother Bejnamin O’Neal’s 1840 will.

    3. Milbery O’Neal m. Mr. Collins. I know nothing about her except she was mentioned in Benjain’s 1840 will.

    4. Ross O’Neal (c. 1765-aft. 1830) assumed to be a son of Ben. O’Neal and Elizabeth Ross. Witnessed an O’Neal deed in Johnston Co. in 1787, so assumed to be at least 21 then. He bought land in Anson Co. in 1802, and sold it in 1807. He shows up in Warren Co., GA in 1820 and 1830.

    5. Benjamin O’Neal (c.1780-1840) apparently lived in his father’s household til he died. In 1813, the elder Benjamin wrote a deed giving Ben. Jr. all his land, (1000 acres), etc. after his death. Ben Jr. had this deed recorded in the Jan. 1836 court term, so I assume Ben. Sr. died circa Dec. 1835. Ben Jr. wrote his own will in Aug. 1840. In it, he lelft his home plantation to his nephew Gray O’Neal (unidentified, perhaps a middle name of one of William’s sons), two slaves to his nephew Jacob Thomas (married to one of Sarah O’Neal Edward’s daughters, so a nephew by marriage) and the remainder of his estate to be divided between his sisters, Sarah Edwards and Milbery Collins. When the deed was presented at Oct. 1840 court, the witnesses testified that the did not believe he was of sound mind at the time of writing it, so it was disallowed. He may have had a wife. (There’s a Patience O’Neal who shows up in the 1840 & 1850 census and there was a female of an age to be Ben Jr.’s wife in the household in earlier census records, though she may be another sister.)

    At any rate, I was so impressed with your web site, and wonder if you, or anyone else, can shed any light on the Ross/O’Neal connections.

    Best Regards,

    John Field Pankow
    Email: Stearnsfield@aol.com

    John Field Pankow

    March 21, 2014 at 12:50 am

  5. That is marriage bond. I am an old man with a disability. A lot of the Ross gentlemen were Merchants.

    L Ross

    September 12, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    • If you have some info on Ross connections within and between states my email is: Altaview@yahoo.com

      L Ross

      September 12, 2015 at 5:03 pm

      • ISAAC Ross and Jean were in Anson County after Granville for a time. Not Onslo.

        Chipshot

        September 17, 2015 at 3:41 pm


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