Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

so I start this site in Virginia… go figure

The theory…

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For new folks perusing my Pages to the right, TTT means I am Tracking The Traders… Indian Traders.  The area of modern Halifax Co., NC and particularly Occoneechee Neck was full of them.  Half of them came from the Petersburg, VA area… many were from Isle of Wight and Nansemond Co. VA.  Some were home grown NC folks.  I have a theory that James Anderson 1716-1727 or so was a trader.  I’m working the theory that he was the son of George Anderson who sold out his 175 acres in IOW in 1710 and they relocated to NC by 1716. George dies prior to 1732 when his widow leaves a will naming sons James and Carolus.

Another character at this time is Daniel McDaniel who dies by 1732. A witness to his will was a John Anderson who I speculate may be a son of James and grandson of George. (all this is theory… let me make that clear).  A fascinating account of one Daniel McDaniel is found in the Colonial Records where a preacher dies while in the company of McDaniel near Bath Town.  Listed in the Inventory of McDaniel after his death is a “perri auger”… a boat.  The McDaniel that I chronicle lived on the Roanoke River perhaps near modern Scotland Neck (very roughly and east to the river).  Therein is a conundrum… the Roanoke does not grant access to Bath Town… the Tar River does however.  Look at a map.  McDaniel had his run-in with the authorities in 1720.  Around 1723 James Anderson is identified as residing in Bath County.  In 1709 an unfortunate fellow by the name of John Lawson drew a map showing Bath County and what would “become” Tar River.  (Lawson used the term “Pamptecough” River).  On Lawson’s map if you look at the “B” in the word Bath you find what will become Tarboro, NC.  Coincidence?

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An historical aside…

Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council
North Carolina. Council
April 02, 1724 – April 17, 1724
Volume 02, Pages 520-530

Upon Complaint of the Meherine Indians setting forth that their Lands were all taken up and Surveyed by the English their Neighbours and that they were forwarned from off their clear Grounds and forbid to plant Corne thereon
Ordered That Coll William Maule the late Surveyr General attend this Board at Edenton next General Court and that in the mean while the said Indians have Liberty to plant their Lands as formerly without molestations from any person whatsoever


April ye 16th mett againe

Present as before

The order of Council appointing a Fee to the Govr for signing patents being sent to the lower house of Assembly for their allowance was returned this day with following endorsement on the back of it vizt

The within order being read it is allowed that the Fee of Twenty five Shillings within mentioned may be taken till the setting of the next Biennial Assembly

per order of the House
R HICKS Cler Dom Comd

The following adress from the lower house was presented by Mr Patrick Maule and Richard Graves and ordered that the Consideration thereof be referred till to morrow

Adjourned till to Morrow Morning

April ye 17th met againe Present as before

Read the aforegoing Address in the following words Vizt

North Carolina—ss.
To the Honoble George Burrington Esqr Governor and Com̄ander in Chief of North Carolina and to the Honoble Council

The Address of the Lower house of Assembly of North Carolina

It Apearing to this House that most of the Lands of Albemarle County being already taken up the Growth and encrease of this Government is much obstructed for want of such Instructions concerning the sales of Land in this Government as might be complyed with by which means many who have removed hither from foreign parts have been oblidged to return and others are dayly removeing to the great weakening of the Government by the loss of so many Inhabitants as well as to the deminuition of the Lords proprietors Revenue, wherefore that such an expedient may be found to retain such of the Inhabitants as are designed to remove and to encourage others to settle in this Government untill the Lords proprietors shall be pleased to give Instructions for the sales of Lands as the Inhabitants of this Government can comply with concerning which we intend to address their Ldps and pray your Honours Concurrance.

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We humbly propose to your Honrs that you would be pleased to give such orders and Instructions that persons may enter survey take up and occupy the vacant Lands on the annual payments of such rents as your Honrs shall think proper untill such time as their Lordps shall declare after what manner the purchase money shall be paid in this Government after which Declaration so made by the proprietors the Possessrs of such Lands may have a Limitted time to accept of their Lordships Tearms of Purchase

And this we are humbly of Opinion will be a great means to Retain many of the Inhabitants otherwise designed to remove encourage others to Settle among us and cause a very great addition to their Ldps Revenues

By order of the Lower house
THOMAS SWANN, Speaker
The Governor and Council taking unto Consideration the address of the lower house of Assembly which was presented yesterday and was this day read and several of the Members of the Council representing that sundry person are already seated on the vacant Lands for which purchase money has not been paid nor any rents, and the Governor and Council being unanimously of Opinion that the permitting people to occupy the vacant Lands on the payment of a certian rent untill the Lords proprietors pleasure be further known will not only very much strengthen and encrease the Settlement of this Government but also cause a very great addition to the Lords proprietors annual Revenue

It is ordered That Permission be given for any person or persons to take out warrt signed by the Governor and Council directed to the surveyor General or his Deputy to lay out Lands in Bath County after the same manner they are usually laid out in Albemarle County To hold and occupy the same on the annual payment of three shilling per hundred Acres untill the Lords proprietors pleasure be further known provided always that unless the Taker up of Lands according to this order do within two years after the survey of the Land enter upon the clearing and Seating thereof in such manner as is provided for the Settling Land in Albemarle County then all and every such Survey shall be Void and ineffectual and such Lands ffree for any person or persons to enter upon and Seat according to the rules hereby declared

And it is further ordered that when the Lords Proprietors shall be please to give direction for the granting Lands in Bath County then all and every such Possessors of Lands so Surveyed who shall have actually paid their rents aforementioned or secured the same to be paid shall have

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the preference to take up the same Lands (so possessed and for which the rents shall have been paid or secured to be paid) upon such Terms as their Lordps shall please to signify for the Granting Lands provided they comply with such Term within one year after notice is given by proclamation
It is also Ordered That the Governor and secretary shall have take and recieve the like ffee for all such Lands so taken up as is appointed for warrant and patents in Albemarle County and that the Surveyor General do make out a Catalogue of all such Lands so taken up and deliver the same to the Lords Proptr Receiver General that the same may be entered on the rent Roll for which entry It shall be Lawfull for the Reciever General to have and take of each person whose Lands shall be so entered the sum of five shillings

Mr Chief Justice having represented to this Board that it was customary in their Ldps Government of South Carolina for the Reciever General out of their Ldps Revenue to defray the expences of a Dinner on the sessions day of each Genl Court

Ordered That Arthur Goffe Esqr Recer Genl do pay the sum of fifteen pound to Mr Thomas Parris it being what was expended on a dinner on the sessions day last past and charge the same on his accompt

By Order

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With the mention of Patrick Maule in the record above, note this fascinating deed for James Anderson:

Bertie Deed Book A

19  No 12          Jas. Anderson to Jno. Grey

North Carolina_  To all of whom these presents shall come James Anderson of the County of Bath send Greeting Know ye that I the said James Anderson for and in Consideration of the Sum of twelve pounds current money of North Carolina to me in hand paid by Capt. John Grey of the County of Albermarl in the Province aforesaid before the Insealing and Delivery of these presents the Receipt thereof I do hereby Acknowledge and thereof and of every part and parcel thereof do fully Clearly and Absolutely asign_ exonerate & Discharge the said John Grey his Exers. & Admrs. in and by their presents and for Divers other good causes and Considerations me thereunto move especially moving Have Granted Bargained Sold Aliened enfeoffed and Confirmed and Confirm unto the said John Gray and to his Heirs and Assigns forever a Certain Tract or parcell of Land lying on the North side of Morattock River in Occoneechee Neck in Albermarle County containing ffour Hundred Acres the same being part of a Larger Tract of Six Hundred and forty Acres formerly Surveyed or laid out by Collo. William Maule for William Braswell and by the said Braswell conveyed to Matthew Capps and by the sd Capps conveyed to me James Anderson which said Tract or parcell of Land lyes upon the Cypress Swamp joyning upon William Boons Land to the Southward and upon John Nellsons Land to the Northward And also all and Singular the wood waters and Rivers together with all priviledges of Hunting Hawking Fishing & Fowling to have and to Hold the said Tract or parcell of Land and all and Singular other premisses herein before mentioned and Intended to be hereby Granted with their and every of their apperten unto the said John Gray his Heirs and assigns forever to the only use and behoof of him the said John Gray his Heirs and Assigns forevermore and I the said James Anderson for myself and my heirs the said Tract or parcell of Land and all and Singular the Premises with their and every of their appertces unto him the said John Gray his Heirs and Assigns against me the said James Anderson my Heirs & Assigns and against all and every other person or persons whatsoever Lawfully me Claiming or which shall and may Lawfully claim by from or under me them or any of them shall and will warrant and forever Defend by these presents In Witness whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and seal this 3rd day of March Anno_ Domini 1721/22

James (I with horizontal slash) Anderson & a Seal, Sealed and Delivered in Presence of us Patt; Maule   Mau: Moore   No. Carolina March Matt?

the above Deed was proved by the Oaths of Pat Maule & Mau Moore Evidences thereto this 20th Day of April Anno Dom 1722, Let it be Registered  C Gale Cl_

Transcribed Marc Anderson, 2011

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I don’t think it would be inappropriate to at least “insinuate” that William Maule and his brother Patrick were crooks… while not mentioned in this historical document, they would seem to be inferred:

Letter from Gabriel Johnston to the Board of Trade of Great Britain, Johnston, Gabriel, ca. 1698-1752, May 25, 1735

…”As the Proprietors of these Blank patents have troubled your Board with a representation in their Favour I must in Duty to his Majesty declare unto your Lordships that after a very nice and important enquiry I can see no reason to confirm one of them and that in Justice every patent issued since the land office was shut up, was a cheat from the beginning and ought to be declared null and void, and as they have promised to submit to your Lordships opinion without repining I must acquaint you that if your Lordships make any the least concession or destraction there will be no end of their Quibbling and this matter wont be determined for years to come whereas if you think proper to condemn all patents issued on any pretence whatever since the land office was shutt up by the Lords Proprietors and oblige them to take out new patents from the Crown, it is no hardship to them it will much encrease the only Revenue the Crown has here and it will finish the affair at once. I must once more putt your Lordships in mind that these patents take place in the County of Bath only, which however contains three parts of four of the whole province.”

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr04-0007#p4-9

Scandals and accusations of corruption were rampant in the 1720s and afterwards… in this 1735 account one ex-governor defends himself:

Memorandum from George Burrington to the Board of Trade of Great Britain concerning blank land patents, Burrington, George, 1680-1759, October 13, 1735, Volume 04, Pages 299-307

…”In the first paragraph and part of the 2nd Mr Johnston affirms that before the year 1724 the Land Office for the County of Bath was shut up &c This is very true and after the Late Lord Proprietors signified their Pleasures to Charles Eden Esqr their then Govr of North Carolina (to whome I succeeded) on that head: there were no more purchase warrants issued, but as that Province had been many years grievously harrassed by long and dangerous Warrs, with the Indians; Some Persons who had taken out warrants for Lands, were afraid to fix in Bath County during the said Warr; but when Peace and Quiet times succeeded to wars and Tumult part of the Proprietors of those Warrants required patents for the Quantity of Land Specified in their respective warrants, which was Unanimously consented to by Mr Eden then Govr and the rest of the Proprietors deputies the rest of the Possessors of these sort of Warrants were by different Motives deterred from Settling their Familys in Bath County, and therefore transferred them to others more Adventurous; who always obtained patents on those Warrants When a Survey was returned into the Secretary Office all this was well known to the Lords Proprietors; they had Yearly accounts of it; Yet they never forbid nor found fault with their Govr and Deputies for providing in that manner during the time I was their Governour I signed about twenty such Patents. Sr Richard Everard the last Governour the Proprietors had in No Carolina Acted in the same Manner, as Mr Eden and myself had done before him I cannot Imagine that either of us betrayed our Trust or Committed a fault in what wee did in this particular, but if any man differs in opinion from me he will find that all the Deputies and Councillors of the proprietors will fall under his Censure all the time the Proprietors held North Carolina the Governour and at least one half of the Council signed the Warrants and Patents I cannot help observing to your Lordship that MrJohnston in the remaining part of the second paragraph doth not proceed with the Truth, and Candour, necessary in a matter of so great consequence which will appear by my Stateing the matter rightly. to illustrate and prove what he asserted in the first Paragraph and beginning of this he writes that in the Year 1724 &c Your Lordships may be pleased to Observe, that when the Lords Proprietors altered the ancient custom, and manner of Selling their Lands in Bath County, there never appeared any Purchaser to deal with them, on the terms they proposed because the price they fixed was double or Treble what land then and long since sold for, from one man to another in Bath County which I can prove by many Scores of Sales. In the Year 1724 I was Governour of North Carolina Mr Johnston must know this, but what reasons he may have for not taking notice of it, am yet to learn….”

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr04-0114

I hazard a guess that if James Anderson set up an Indian Trading Post at what would become Tarboro then he would fit in that peculiar category of men referred to above as:

“others more Adventurous”.   Could not James Anderson have been one of those patents referred to above where the governor states: “during the time I was their Governour I signed about twenty such Patents”.

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Letter from William Gordon to John Chamberlain, Gordon, William, May 13, 1709

…”Bath county contains most of that land which lies to the southward of Albemarle Sound to Pamplico River, and about thirty or forty miles more southerly to Neuse River, which (being but lately peopled with a few French who left Virginia) is not laid down in the draft.  They have divided the whole into three precincts or parishes, though the inhabitants of all are but equal in number to any one of the other, most of which are seated on Pamplico River and its branches. Here is no church, though they have begun to build a town called Bath. It consists of about twelve houses, being the only town in the whole province.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr01-0378#p1-715

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Another reference to Bath… in an indictment against a man James Anderson quite possibly knew in 1727, offers this statement which apparently infers the government folks thought perhaps some parts of Bertie “precinct” may also be in Bath “county”:

The presentment of the grand Jury against John Brown was read in these words Vizt

Wee of the Grand Jury do present John Brown of Bertie precinct alias Bath Severall amongst us Say that they know him to have left his Wife the daughter of Barnaby Mackinne & cohabits with another which he acknowledges to be his lawfull Wife both of the Sayd Women Within this Government

Endorsed
THOs PARRIS Foreman.

Minutes of the General Court of North Carolina, North Carolina. General Court, July 28, 1727 – August 02, 1727

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr02-0308#p2-705

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I did not intend for this post to be long and drawn out but I can’t help but keep adding to it (I’m building evidence as I go).  My initial point being that I think Tarboro was considered to be in Bath County at the time James Anderson moved there in 1722/3.  The below account should remove any doubts and I solicit any challenges to the assumption…  the entire document centers around the disputed patents issued for Bath County by the ex governor Burrington ( these were probably some heated arguments and some irritated landowners who felt cheated… as they probably were in some cases)…

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr04-0041#p4-66
Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council
North Carolina. Council
October 03, 1735 – October 18, 1735
Volume 04, Pages 64-67
At a Council held at Bath Town Fryday the third day of October 1735.
Present His Excellency the Governor…
[also present was Patrick Maule]
….Read the Petition of the Inhabitants of Tar River setting forth that they are 20 families in number 

That Simon Jeffries Deced obtained in his own and in his Son Osborns name three Patents for 1000 Acres of Land on said River the Warrants for which have been so run out as to take in 15 miles on the said River
[get that?… Jeffries patent involved 15 MILES “on the said River”]
That the Orphan of one Boyd hath a purchase Patent for 7000 Acres of Land beginning on Town Creek which will take in most of their Settlements
[The area of Town Creek is still referenced in modern Edgecombe County… it is east of Rocky Mount] 
That one of the Pollocks has purchased patents for 5 Surveys and Town Creek and several others lay claim thereto thō they never made any settlements.
 [the Pollock referred to above was a son of the war governor of 1712- Thomas Pollock – the original Battle property around Town Creek was derived from this early land deal of either Cullen Pollock or his brother George.  Another huge tract of about 2,500 acres was taken out around the Roanoke River roughly east of Scotland Neck] 
That your Petitioners have been at great charge in cultivating and improving the aforesaid Lands and have the late Governor Burringtons Warrants for the Lands whereon they have settled
[hence, some of these folks knew they were in danger of getting screwed because the deals of the 1720s were never recorded]
Therefore must humbly pray that the aforesaid Jeffrys’ Land and the Lands held by Purchase Patents be resurveyed
 [Jeffries lost his ass here but still made up for it elsewhere]
Whereupon His Excellency the Governour by and with the advice of his Majestys Council was pleased to order that Mr Attorney General doth forthwith Enter a Prosecution against the several patentees mentioned in the aforesaid Petition in his Majesty’s Court of Exchequer.
[around 1732 Edgecombe Precinct began evolving and the government, such as it was, was left to deal with this land problem… land scam in my opinion] 
Then the Board adjourned till tomorrow 9 of the Clock in the forenoon.
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Another bit of info that I’ve just realized is that the Indian “Tom Blount” was undoubtedly living around the area south of Tarboro (some speculate Old Sparta) at the time that I think James Anderson moved to Tarboro in 1722/3…
Upon Petition the Inhabitants on the south side of Moratoke River that are not annexed to Edgecombe precinct praying that the Inhabitants from Hoskins Line at the Rainbow Banks upon a Straight line to Blounts old Town on Tarr River and so up Roak River to the Line of Edgecombe be added to Edgecombe prect the council taking the same into consideration do consent that the above Limits and bounds be added to Edgecombe precinct
(Evidently Tom Blount was living near Tarboro up til about 1732, then he moves with his tribe across the Roanoke west of Cashey River.)
 
Unfortunately, James Anderson is still a ghost in the records…..
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Written by anderson1951

February 3, 2012 at 7:07 pm

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  1. All I can say is, is WOW! You are amazing! This is so interesting. Penny

    pffischer

    February 9, 2012 at 11:10 am

    • (Smiling) Penny is a cousin folks… I don’t even have to pay her for compliments. It is frustrating not to be able to find ANY proof to substantiate the theory that James moved to Tarboro… in their book Turner & Bridgers come out and say that “a” James Anderson was in Edgecombe in 1723 but don’t give a source…Grrr.

      anderson1951

      February 9, 2012 at 5:03 pm

  2. Well, there are all those Tarboro deeds in which James Anderson is a witness… 🙂

    The Bath/Tarboro theory is interesting, and may be right…but I’ll throw another theory out there. Bath County eventually became Beaufort, Hyde, etc. Pitt County was formed from Beaufort. The early maps are often quite out of realistic scale…my bet is that the “B” in Bath is more in the vicinity of present-day Greenvile, or points of modern Pitt more southward, and perhaps James was connected with the Pitt County/Eastern Edgecombe Andersons.

    The Edgecombe area, to my knowledge, was never part of Bath County, but rather Albemarle County early on and Bertie Precinct later, so I doubt a deed as far up as Tarboro would have been categorized as being in Bath.

    Traci Thompson

    February 18, 2012 at 9:44 am

    • I’ve studied a bit more on this… I can’t find any records of any detail to the western limits of Bath County… what strikes me now is note that the Lawson Map of 1709 designates the “entire” Tar River as “Pampticough Precinct”… I find that compelling evidence that Tarboro was considered in Bath. (along with my other suppositions).

      All other instances of county formations at this general time period left the western boundary “boundless” IMO.

      anderson1951

      February 21, 2012 at 7:35 am

  3. I’ll have to dig up the proof if you are truly interested… Lawson was pretty accurate; he actually calculated the correct point of the VA/NC border prior to his murder and 20 years before Byrd II in 1728. The NC boys knew exactly where the border was… they were some “shifty” fellows IMO.

    This is pretty heady stuff… 1723 and Edgecombe wasn’t even a concept yet.

    anderson1951

    February 18, 2012 at 10:56 am

  4. Not dissing on Lawson, just speaking in general terms about early nc cartography. Yep, just a twinkle in lord Edgecumbe’s eye, but Bath was distinct from the northern precincts.

    traci thompson

    February 18, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    • I understand where you are coming from but we could be scratching at some “new” history here… I have a Page on William Maule that may interest the “historian” cap if you choose to put that on. His brother Patrick Maule was a wheeler-dealer in real estate that I think involved the Tarboro area. I’ll add a bit to the main post above.

      Keep in mind this odd window of time… 1723… Bertie County is just being considered and Bath County is about to become extinct. William Maule was living near James Anderson (all the Anderson deeds are designated as Chowan Co.) Thomas Pollock grabs some considerable property on Moratock River roughly east of Scotland Neck. The Mosely map of 1733 was inaccurate also… bottom line is that there is no accurate account of where Albemarle stopped and Bath started. I think Tarboro was in Bath Co. in 1723. Someone prove me wrong or else we may need to modify some history books.

      anderson1951

      February 18, 2012 at 1:12 pm

  5. You’ve got me halfway convinced. It does appear that, technically, the entire Tar/Pamlico (Pampticough) river was considered to be Bath Co., for a short time – as you say, an “odd window of time.” But Edgecombe was technically created out of Bertie Precinct, which was not in Bath…although your document of “Bertie Precinct alias Bath” is pretty compelling. Tarboro didn’t exist in this odd window, and I wonder, how many people were actually that far up the river? How many had permanent residence there? Some, no doubt, but probably not many.

    Keep in mind, too, King Blount’s Town, which is thought to have been in the vicinity of present-day Old Sparta, on the Tar. If James Anderson was an Indian trader, this would be a likely place for him to visit, I would think. And we can’t discount all those miles of present-day Pitt and Beaufort Counties in between.

    Traci Thompson

    February 25, 2012 at 10:39 am

  6. FYI, Bryan Grimes stated that King Blount’s Town was in the vicinity of present-day Greenville in his “Notes on Colonial North Carolina, 1700-1750.” But then, it’s Grimes.

    Traci Thompson

    February 25, 2012 at 10:49 am

  7. Whoops, sorry, I didn’t read all the way down – you’ve already discussed King Blount’s Town! I thought Tom Blount was assigned with the others to the reservation in Bertie – I will have to look into that. I think the area was referred to as “Blount’s Old Town” for a long time regardless. Oh & BTW Town Creek is also south of Rocky Mount, depending where on the creek you are referring to.

    Traci Thompson

    February 25, 2012 at 10:59 am

    • Blount did go across the Roanoke but “when” is the question. The original Battle property is associated with the Thomas Pollock sons which is why I suspect the upper Town Creek (fascinating to find such a specific reference in the historic papers for the 1720/30s relating to the Tarboro area)

      I also ran across references to the Blank Patent Scandal where William Little is supposed to be the culprit that kept a book of the “missing patents”… the Board of Trade never seems to have found it… leaving my guy James Anderson orphaned as a mystery to any land he may have had. A couple decades later the “merchant” James is still around. I speculate that the William Anderson you researched with the Patterson women may even be a son of him. How’s them apples?

      Turner & Bridgers mentioned the “20 families of Tar River” in their book but gave no source… interesting that in the records is the mention of “20 families” associated with the Blank Patent Scandal. William Little’s father in law Christopher Gale also did some Indian Trading.

      anderson1951

      February 25, 2012 at 11:47 am

      • This is purported to be Christopher Gale in 1703…

        “I cood wish Bro. Miles were w’th me Just now, for Tomorrow’s light I sett out upon an Indian Voiage, in ord’r to followe a shallop’s load off Indian goods, w’ch I sent away about 2 Months agoe for Cape Fare River, w’ch Voiage wood make him an expert Carolina Coaster, & Inure him soe far to ye Customes & language off ye Heathen, as to make him a well qualify’d Ind. Trader”

        http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr22-0545 …interesting bit of history

        anderson1951

        February 25, 2012 at 12:18 pm

  8. Keep in mind also that the Tar River was navigable up to Tarboro for some larger boats in the 1720s… it is now screwed up do to the dam and reservoir created in modern times near Rocky Mount. It wasn’t a pitiful little creek back in the day. (no offense intended to your river, particularly when that sucker floods)

    anderson1951

    February 25, 2012 at 12:33 pm

  9. A reference to the Pollock property I have referred to (just ignore the Joseph Pitman stuff… I don’t want to drive you to drink 🙂

    Edge. Co. Db 1, page 420, deed date 15 Oct 1761, recorded 3 Sep 1762,
    Earl Granville to William Gay, Edge. Co for 10 shillings sterling, a
    tract beginning at a white oak in Thomas Pollock’s line (John Gay’s)
    corner then by said Gay’s line south 10 east 180 poles to a red oak
    then by (Joseph ?) & (? Pitmans) line north 80 east 136 poles to a pine
    (Jesse ?) corner then by said line south 40 poles to a red oak then
    west 400 poles to a red oak then north 216 poles to a black oak in
    Thomas Pollock’s line then by said line to the first station,
    containing 340 acres, signed Thos Child, wit (Saml Swann), John Linton.
    NOTE: VERY HARD TO READ. Abstracted 6 Mar 07, NCA film C.037.40002,
    CTC.

    Edge. Co. Db 3, page 464, deed date 26 Mar 1779, recorded Aug Ct 1779,
    Elisha Battle, Edge. Co to Elisha Battle, Jr, place aforesaid, son of
    the said Elisha Battle, for natural love and affection and the better
    maintenance of said Elisha Battle, Jr, three tracts of land, in the
    whole 791 acres on the south side of Tar River, to wit, one parcel
    containing 350 being part of two patents, one granted to Samuel Swam
    dated 5 Dec 1728 and the other granted to George Pollock dated 18 Aug
    1727,
    beginning on the river bank in the said patent line that crosses
    the river joining Cullen Andrews land then by the said line south 83
    west 86 poles to a hickory John Battle’s corner then by the said
    Battle’s line south 7 east 320 poles to a pine in the back line of the
    said patent then by the said line north 83 east 240 poles to a pine
    then by the other line north 7 west 200 poles to a hickory on the river
    bank then joining Daniel Ross’ land then up the various courses of the
    river to the first station; another parcel granted to William Gay by
    deed bearing date 15 Oct 1764 beginning at a Spanish Oak in Pollock’s
    line then (south) 203 poles to two black jacks in said Gay’s back line
    then by said line west 190 poles to a corner red oak then north 216
    poles to a black oak in the said Pollock’s line then by the said line
    to the first station; the third tract containing 201 acres being part
    of a grant to the said Elisha Battle by a deed dated 10 Aug 1762
    beginning at John Battle’s corner then by the said line south 240 poles
    to the back line of the said survey then by the said line east 134
    poles to a corner then north 240 poles to the other side of the said
    survey then by the said line west 134 poles to the first station,
    signed Elisha Battle, wit Jeremiah Hilliard, Demsey Battle, Jacob
    Battle, acknowledged in court by the said Elisha Battle. Abstracted 5-
    12-05, NCA film C.037.40005, CTC.

    If that George Pollock deed of 1727 can be found and it designates “Bath County” then this case is closed.

    anderson1951

    February 26, 2012 at 8:48 am

  10. Them’s some apples!

    Oh, the Tar was navigable up to the late 19th century/early 20th. The Tar River Oil Company ran steamers up and down – see: http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/special/ead/findingaids/0603/

    Captain Henry Clark Bridgers, Jr., planned a book about the steamboats on the Tar but it was never published:
    http://www.obhistorycenter.ncdcr.gov/ead/obhc_bridgers_henry_clark_jr.xml

    Some pics of the steamers on the Tar can be found on Edgecombe County Memorial Library’s website.

    Should George Pollock’s grant be on the list? Or is it already?

    Traci Thompson

    March 6, 2012 at 11:37 am

    • wow… didn’t realize you folks had the big boats up that far…

      I’m guessing that Pollock 1727 deed would be a nightmare to find… I didn’t see a reference to it… might be in one of the boxes of personal papers for the governor………. I am curious tho’… but no, I didn’t put you on the hook for that one.

      anderson1951

      March 6, 2012 at 12:42 pm

  11. Yeah, so far I haven’t found the 1727 Pollock one in my abstracts. However, Hofmann helpfully included a place name index in her Province of NC Abstracts of Land Patents, and the Tar is mentioned 6 times. Here you go:

    p. 108, entry # 1169, p. 275: John Lovick, Esquire 5 December 1728 4,500 acres called Lovicksfield in Bertie Precinct on both sides of a Branch of Tarr river called Swift Creek, joining the sd. creek and a small Branch called the Yellow Wood Quarter.

    p. 108, entry # 1172, p.277: Edward Moseley, Esquire 4 November 1728 10,000 acres known by the name of Clun Seat in Bertie Precinct between two Great runs or Creeks called Swift Creek and Shochoe Creek both falling into Tarr River, joining a Branch of Pease Quarter swamp near the head, Rich Neck Creek, Long Branch, sd. Swift Creek, and sd. Chochoe Creek.

    p. 223, entry # 2440, p. 221: Joseph Lane 2 August 1727 300 acres on the Northernly side of Tarr River, joining a reedy branch and the sd. River. [Notice this is the same year as the George Pollock patent, and how they helpfully left off the precinct.]

    p. 240, entry # 2642, p. 271: John Lovick 5 December 1728 4,500 acres called Lovicksfield in Bertie Precinct on both sides of a Branch of Tarr River called Swift Creek, joining the head of a run, the head of a small run, a Branch, the mouth of yellow wood Quarter Branch, and the sd. Creek.

    p. 318, entry # 3412, p. 215: John Green 29 April 1730 2,000 acres on the North side of Tarr River, joining Thomas Lane (?), the mouth of Molton’s Creek, and the sd. river…note indicates, “This patent not allowed by ye Council…”

    p.321, entry # 3421, p. 77: John Lovick 5 December 1728 4,500 acres in Bartie [Bertie] on both sides of a branch of Tar River called Swifts Creek, joining the said creek and a small branch called Yellow Wood Quarter.

    I didn’t see the particular patent on the ss of the Tar to Samuel Swann either, but I did see this:

    p. 321, entry # 3420, p. 76: John Lovick 12 June 1728 3,200 acres in Bartie [Bertie] on Fishing Creek, joining Samuel Swann, a branch, and the sd. Creek.

    Traci Thompson

    March 7, 2012 at 11:27 am

    • Fascinating to get into the actual nuts and bolts of the so called “Blank Patent scandal”… Mosely just HAD to go for 10,000 acres… LOL (this one is called Bertie Precinct but Shocoe Creek is in northern Nash Co I think)

      I’m curious about the term “Yellow Wood Quarter”… most references I’ve seen relate “quarter” to a trading post. Have you ran across it before?

      Keep digging and you may come up with that mysterious first “20 families living on the Tar River” that Turner & Bridgers wrote about.

      anderson1951

      March 7, 2012 at 12:02 pm

  12. Actually, I was wondering if maybe Turner & Bridgers got that from this, that you’ve dug out and posted:

    Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council
    North Carolina. Council
    October 03, 1735 – October 18, 1735
    Volume 04, Pages 64-67
    At a Council held at Bath Town Fryday the third day of October 1735.
    Present His Excellency the Governor…
    [also present was Patrick Maule]
    ….Read the Petition of the Inhabitants of Tar River setting forth that they are 20 families in number

    Yellow Wood Quarter is a new one on me. However I do know – to quote Willam Powell’s NC Gazetteer – that Shocoe (Shocco) Creek “rises in e Vance County and flows se through Warren County onto the Franklin/Warren County line where it enters Fishing Creek.” This was all Bertie in 1728.

    Traci Thompson

    March 7, 2012 at 1:32 pm


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