Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

so I start this site in Virginia… go figure

2 John Pitmans of IOW

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I say Isle of Wight but it is now modern Southampton County, VA.  The early IOW and Surry Counties extended all the way to the NC border.  Hence, any surviving records are found all over several county record books.

This first guy is undoubtedly the son of Thomas Pitman d 1730.  He and his brother Arthur are noted in the will of Thomas.  The most remarkable item in this deed is the mention of the “Country Line”.  I have no doubt this is the Meherrin River area where it crosses the VA and NC border… that is where Thomas died in 1730.  My purpose merely is to show where this guy was… note in the lower part of the page… Arthur is living next to John and they are near the “country line”… that has to be the VA/NC border.  Arthur is dead by 1758, leaving an inventory; John dies 1780s.

This second John Pitman is living several miles northeast of modern Emporia, VA.

Note his neighbors…

Macklemore, Wright. grantee.

Title Land grant 1 August 1734.

Summary Location: Isle of Wight County.

Description: 140 acres on both sides of the Poplar Swamp.

Source: Land Office Patents No. 15, 1732-1735 (v.1 & 2 p.1-522), p. 241 (Reel 13).

Mackelmore, Wright. grantee.

Land grant 25 July 1746.

Location: Isle of Wight County.

Description: 200 acres on the south side of Nottaway River. Beg.g &c. in John Pitman’s line; thence &c. in Owen Myrick’s line.

Source: Land Office Patents No. 25, 1745-1747, p. 149 (Reel 23).

Myrick, Owin. grantee.

Title Land grant 20 August 1745.

Summary Location: Isle of Wight County.

Description: 375 acres on the south side of Nottaway River. Beg.g &c. by the side of this three creeks.

Source: Land Office Patents No. 22, 1743-1745 (v.1 & 2 p.1-631), p. 400 (Reel 20).

Wiggins, Thomas. grantee.

Title Land grant 30 March 1743.

Summary Location: Isle of Wight County.

Description: 200 acres on the south side of Nottaway River. Beg.g &c. on the north side of the Reedy branch, a corner of John Pitman’s man.

Source: Land Office Patents No. 21, 1742-1743 (v.1 & 2 p.1-674), p. 263 (Reel 19).

Note the above folks mentioned in this deed…

This William Wrey (Ray) may be connected to the older William Pitman of Surry  (Pitman is purported to marry a widow of Wray)… I suspect this John Pitman is a son.

Click on image to enlarge… then use Ctrl + or – to fine-tune…

A William Wray in 1748… Brunswick County…

Pole for Drury Stith

William Wall           John Steed         Baxter Davis
James Denman           William Petty      Chris. Tatum
Henry Embry            William Randle     George Sims
John Moutrey           William Wray       John Wall
Giles Kelly            Benjamin Lanier    Robt. Rynolds [sic]
William McKinney       John Moore         John Davis
William Maclin         Robert Hicks       Edward Robinson
James Speed            John Hicks         Joseph Burnett
Hazekiah Massie        Thomas Dean        James Clack
Thomas Loyd (Sworn)    John Randle        Abraham Phenix
Lewelling Jones        Charles Goulfter   Chas. Matthis (Sworn)
Robert Christy         John Maclin        William Short
Thomas Bull            William Read       John Hagood
Richd. Hagood          Peter Simmons      James Hicks
Randal Brasie          Isaac House        James Taply
William Jones          Geo. Clayton       John Johnson

WILLIAM AND MARY QUARTERLY – Brunswick County VA, 1748 Poll List, Vol. 26, No. 1, p. 59, BRUNSWICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA. POLL LIST 1748

http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/brunswick/census/tax1748.txt

This deed has John Pitman in Edgecombe in 1746… I’m not sure why the name is in parentheses and would like to see the deed… This reference is also interesting because this Thomas Hicks may be a grandson of Robert Hix (Hicks) the notorious Indian Trader.  Perhaps this is a clue to what John Pitman was doing in the area of Three Creek, VA .

Edge. Co. (Halifax) Db 3, page 45, deed date 7 aug 1746, recorded Nov
Ct 1746, Thomas Hicks, Edge. Co to (John Pitman), said county for 20
pds Va, a tract on the north side of White Oak Swamp containing 150
acres being the plantation whereon said (John Pitman) now lives
beginning at a white oak on the north side of said swamp then south 80
east 153 poles to the center of two pines then north 10 east 153 poles
to a red oak then north 80 west to the White Oak Swamp then down said
swamp to the first station, signed Thomas Hicks, wit Edward Seayers,
Mary Vaughn (mark). Abstracted 7-02-06, NCA film C.047.40002, CTC.

…background on Hicks…

Brunswick County, Virginia
Deed Book 3 (1744-1749)
Indenture made 25 January 1745, between Thomas Hicks of the
Province of North Carolina and Nathaniel Edwards of Brunswick
County, £40, 250a, is the lower part of a Tract of Land
containing about 400a whereon Daniel Hicks late of Brunswick
County aforesd. at the time of his Death did Dwell &; which said
250 acres of Land the said Daniel Hicks by his last will &;
Testament dated 17 December 1734 did Devise to the said Thomas
Hicks as by the said last will &; Testament of the said Daniel
Hicks duly proved and recorded in the County Court of Brunswick.
Signed Thomas Hicks. Witnesses: John Wall, Junr., George Hicks,
James Hicks, Junr., John Irby, Junr. Henry Bedingfield, Francis
Price. Court February 6, 1745, Indenture, Memorandum and Receipt
proved by the oaths of James Hicks Junr., Henry Bedingfield &;
Francis Price. Deed Book 3, Page 141.

I would think this an earlier generation (but I don’t know)…

Arthur Kavanaugh, of Surry County, VA., to Thomas Hicks.  200 acres on branch of Indian Town Creek, as per patent in my name, dated August 11, 1707.  Deed dated July 19, 1715.  Test, R. Hicks, Jon Gordon      Hathaway, pg 289

Another Virginia reference … 

Isle of Wight, VA
(p 496.) 24 July 1747. Thomas WIGGINS of EDGECOMBE COUNTY IN NORTH
CAROLINA to John Davis 200 acres on the south side of Nottoway River adj.
John Pittman. Wit: Richard Jones, Lewis Harris., J James Ridley. Signed:
Thoms Wiggins; Joanna (x) Wiggins. Rec. 13 Aug 1747.

Edgecombe County 1760s…

1760 22 Sep. Wright (XY) McLemore of edgecombe Co. to WILLIAM PITMAN, for £10 a tract of 100 acres on the White Oak Swamp, granted to said McLemore by deed bearing date June 28, 1760. Wit: Eth’d Exum, Moses (M) McLemore. Deed Book 00, p. 159.

William Pitman is purported to marry Judith, daughter of Wright Maclemore…  I’d like to see some proof because at about this same time a daughter of Andrew Ross, also named Judith, marries a William Pitman. (noted in Ross’ will)

1760 26 Dec. Wright McLemore of Edgecombe Co. to Drewry McLemore, for £5 a tract of 60 acres on the north bank of White Oak Swamp adjoining JOHN PITMAN, which land was granted to Wright McLemore by a deed bearing date June 28, 1760. Wit: Etheldred Exum, Moses McLamore. Deeb Book 00, p. 360.

1762 4 Jan. WILLIAM (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe co. to Drewry HIggs of same., for £35 a tract of 100 acres on White Oak Swamp, it being a patent granted to Wright McLemore by deed dated June 28, 1760. Wit: Eth’d Exum, John (X) Mials. DB 1, p. 312.

22 April 1763 Drury (X) Maclamoar of Edgecombe Co. to JOHN PITMAN, for £10 a tract of 60 acres on the north side of White Oak Swamp, it being taken out of Rite Macklamour’s patent. Wit: Arthar (A) Philups, Robt. Armstrong. DB C, p. 67.

22 April 1763 JOHN (X) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Robert Armstrong, £45 Virginia money the 210 acre plantation whereon said Armstrong then lived on the north side of White oak Swamp. Wit: Arther (A) Philups, Drury (X) Maclamar. DB C, p. 70.

1764 20 Apr. Robert Armstrong of Edgecombe Co. to WILLIAM PITMON of same, for £5 Virginia money a tract of 60 acres on the north side of White oak Swamp on Tantroft Branch, it being taken out of Rite McLemore’s patent. Wit: JOSEPH PITMON, HANNAH (X) PITMON. DB C, p. 251

Karen’s note: Jacob Pitman married Hannah Best 19 Mar 1764, Isaac Wilson was bondsman, Thos. Cavenah was witness.

1765 8 Oct. WILLIAM (x) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Nathan Harriss of same, for 46/13/4 current money a tract of 210 acres on the north bank of Whie Oak Swamp in two patents: (1) 150 acres granted to Joseph Wall; (2) 60 acres granted to Wright McLemore by a patent deed dated June 28, 1760. Wit: Eth’d Exum, Arthur Philips, Mark Mason. DB C, p. 360.

1766 25 Nov. Wright (M) McLemore of Edgecombe Co. to Moses McLemore of same, £20 a tract of 118 acres on the north bank of Whate Oak Swamp at the mouth of Tan Trough Branch adjoining Drewry McLemore and WM. PITMAN. Wit: Eth’d Exum, Jhn Exum. DB C, p. 437.

1769 10 Feb. Moses (x) McLamore of Edgecombe Co. to Etheldred Exum of same, £5 a tract of 118 acres on the north bank of White Oak Swamp at the mouth of Tantrough Branch adjoining Drewry McLamore and WILLIAM PITTMAN, it being part of a patent deed gratned to Wright McLamore bearing date 28 Jun 1760. Wit: Bathshaba (B) Sikes, John Exum. DB D, p. 114.

1770 22 May. Etheldred Exum and wife, Rachel (X) Exum, of Edgecombe Co. to John Spell of same, for £17 a tract of 118 acres on the north bank of white Oak swamp at the mouth of Tantrough Branch adjoining Drury McLamore and WILLIAM PITMAN, it being a Granville grant to Wright McLamore bearing date June 28, 1760. Wit: Arthur Philips, John Exum, Junr. DB D, p. 241.

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The death of Arthur Pitman in 1758 allows for some interesting speculation…

This is evidently the sons of Thomas Pitman d 1730:

Abstracts of Deeds Northampton County, N.C., Margaret M. Hoffman, 1968.

pg. 258 THOMAS THORNTON of Northampton Co. to CHAPLIN WILLIAMS of Isle of Wight Co., Va. 9 Mar. 1746 50 pounds Va. currency 230 acres on the north side of Maherrin river, joining the old co. line and the river, all houses, orchards, gardens etc. a tract of land granted to WILLIAM BENNETT 1 Mar. 1739  Wit: JOHN PITMAN, ARTHUR PITMAN, DANIEL BENSTEN, THOMAS (???) Reg. Northampton Co. May Ct. 1746  Robert Forster C. Ct.

pg. 265 SAMUEL HAYES of Northampton Co. to MARGRITT BRADY of Isle of Wight Co., Va. 25 Aug. 1746 10 shillings current money of Va. 50 acres more or less on the south side of Maherrin river, joining  the co. line on the river bank, part of a track granted to BENJAMIN WILLIAMS 7 May 1722 Wit: JOHN PITMAN, ARTHUR PITMAN Reg. Northampton Co. Aug. Ct. 1746 Robert Forster C. Ct.

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My interest is this Arthur…

Edgecombe deed book 1 p 89 Edgecombe Co NC: Elizabeth PITTMAN of Edgecombe Co to Arthur PITMAN planter, 26 Sep 1761, 90 acres north side of Tar River…Granville grant to said Elizabeth…May 1749.
Edgecombe County Court Minutes Dec 1761-Mar 1762

ABSTRACT OF WILLS, EDGECOMBE COUNTY, N.C., VOL. I, 1732-1792 by David B. Gammon, 1992, pp 36-37: John Hatcher, 1 Oct. 1765, Jan Ct. 1766, A/153 (Book A, p. 153). Will names son Jeremiah Hatcher, 100 acres at the mouth of the Dividing Branch adj. Hendricks Creek. Wife Dorothy – life estate in my remaining land with reversion to my daughter Sarah Hatcher. Daughter Mary – bed. Son John Hatcher – ten shillings. Wife – lend all moveable estate for her lifetime with reversion to my four children Hancock Hatcher, Jeremiah Hatcher, Sarah Hatcher and Mary Hatcher. To ARTHUR PITMAN – ten shillings. Ex. Hancock Hatcher. Wit: John Miall, Isom Pitman.

JANUARY, 1766:   LWT of John HATCHER proved by John MYALS and Jesse PITMAN & Executors qualified.

Course… I have no idea who he is…

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Notes…

This could nail down the second John as the son of William of Surry if it researches out… I found this on a post from Guy Baker   http://genforum.genealogy.com/pitman/messages/1557.html

“Posting (not mine) – I found a deed where where William Wray or Ray of Southwarke Parish, Surry co Va bought 175 acres on south side of Three Creeks from Thomas Goodwynne but it does not say which county but I believe it was Brunswick co Va but it might have been Surry co Va at that time and that part of Surry co Va became Brunswick co Va. I will research that. It was witnessed by Edward Goodrich, Arthur Kavanaugh and Marmaduke Johnson.Lois had posted that William Wrey (Wray) received a patent 18 March 1717 for 175 acres in Surry co Va on the south side of the Three Creeks adjoining Maj Charles Goodrich’s land. As noted this patent was witnesee by Edward Goodrich. This must have been the same land. Maybe it was recorded in 1720. this was from the Virginia Land Patent Book No. 19 page 370 or 373. The only problem with this deed is it lists William Wray’s wife as Elizabeth. Was it a mistake?”

William Pitman of Surry married the widow of Wray Sr…

1 Jun 1731. Surry County, Virginia, Wills, Estate Accounts and Inventories, 1730-1800, by Lyndon H. Hart, III, 1983, pg 4. Page 138. William Ray. Will. Date: 1 June 1731. Rec.: 20 Oct’r. 1731. William Ray, Executor. (torn). Eldest son: William. Wife: —-. Brother-in-law: William Pittman. Witnesses: Howell Briggs, William Clary and Richard Parker. Surry Co., VA., Deeds & Wills, 1730-1738, page 138. William Ray, will dated 1 June 1731: ((Entire will only about 6-8 inches long, torn out at center, sides and edges water-damaged and faded.)) Only words that can be read:—my Brother in Law—Pittman— (and right before that looks like the word “Father”)— these were to be Executors.

19 Jan 1731/2. Surry County, Virginia, Wills, Estate Accounts and Inventories, 1730-1800, by Lyndon H. Hart, III, 1983, pg 4. Page 150. William (W)Ray. Inventory. Date ordered: 20 Oct 1731, Rec: 19 Jan 1731. William Wray, Executor. John Deberry, Nicholas Porter and Roge Williams, Appraisers.

Wray, William, Jr. grantee.
Land grant 28 September 1728.
Brunswick County.
Description: 724 acres on both sides of Stoney Hill Run.

Wray, John. grantee.
Land grant 7 July 1726
Brunswick County.
Description: 280 acres on the north side of the Three Creeks.

Arthur Kavanaugh was an Indian Trader who lived somewhat near the area of John Pitman when he was in VA east of Emporia.  If the senior William Wray was near Hick’s Ford about 1717 then odds are he was Indian Trading….  notice all the suspects that are mentioned:  a son of Robert Hicks, Arthur Kavanaugh, John Wall is in the later Brunswick Co area (a Joseph Wall is son in law of Thomas Pitman)……  Thomas Pitman was involved in Bacon’s Rebellion.  Sounds like fodder for some interesting history.

more clues…

Patent to Robert Hix, Gent., dated September 28, 1730, for 2610 acres, old and new land, Surry County; on North side of Maherin River; adjoining Henry Wyche; on the Myery Branch, at mouth of the Meadow Run; William Lucas; Capt. Thomas Goodwin; land formerly Major Charles Goodrich, dec’d; on Reeves’ Swamp; near Arthur Kavanaugh’s house. 1070 acres part granted said Hix, October 31, 1716; & 140 acres granted him, July 9, 1724, for 7 Lbs. money. Virginia Patent Book 14, page 124, page 125.  (see WREY deed above on map referencing Maj Goodrich)

Arthur Kavenaugh, of Surry County, VA., to Thomas Hicks.  200 acres on branch of Indian Town Creek, as per patent in my name, dated August 11, 1707.  Deed dated July 19, 1715.  Test, R. Hicks, Jon Gordon.   [Hathaway pg. 289]

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Written by anderson1951

March 5, 2012 at 6:33 pm

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  1. Although either is possible, I’d think the William to Ross marriage makes more sense, don’t you? Do you think there could be…shudder….two Williams?

    Traci Thompson

    March 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    • You would ask…. the Ross connection is solid…. I’m skeered of the Macklemore genealogy crowd getting ticked and sending me threatening emails because I picked on on of their guys. If I throw that daughter to the wolves then maybe only one William is left.

      Hmmm… I’m fishing here…. supposing this William is the son of John… perhaps the Arthur is another son???

      anderson1951

      March 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm

  2. It’s possible…when did William get the 150 acres that had been granted to Joseph Wall?

    traci thompson

    March 6, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    • Not sure (are you referring to Edgecombe?)…the Walls stayed near the Pitmans in VA…
      (my guess is Joseph Wall moved to Edge around 1737? he sold some Meherrin property)

      Joseph Wall [Sr?] granted 900ac same day as Richard Smith near Pigeon Sw and Seacock in 1684.

      Wall, Joseph, Jr. grantee.
      Land grant 28 April 1711.
      Isle of Wight County.
      Description: 217 acres on the south side of the main Blackwater Swamp part in the County of Surry. Beg.g &c. on the east side of a branch a corner tree of the Nottaway Indians land.

      Wall, Joseph, Jr. grantee.
      Land grant 28 April 1711.
      Surry County.
      Description: 200 acres on the south side the main Blackwater Swamp. Beginning at the mouth of a branch on the south east side Seacock.

      Wall, Joseph. grantee.
      Land grant 23 March 1715.
      Surry County.
      Description: 200 acres on the south side of the main Blackwater Swamp. And on both sides of the Wild Catts Branch.

      Wall, Joseph, Jr. grantee.
      Land grant 9 July 1724.
      Isle of Wight County.
      Description: 315 acres on the south side of Meherrin River. Beg.g &c. in the line that divides this government from North Carolina.

      Pittman, William, Jr. grantee.
      Land grant 9 July 1724.
      Surry County.
      Description: 240 acres on the South side of the main Blackwater swamp. Beginning and extending a line tree of the Land formerly belonging to Richard Hallyman, deceased.
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      Joseph Wall; d. before 3 Oct 1693; m. Elizabeth _____
      “Will of Joseph Wall of Martins Brandon proved by oath of Peter Good and Thomas Goodwin, and probate granted to Elizabeth, the relict and executrix.”

      interesting Wall site http://www.tc.umn.edu/~timsx001/Wall.html the John Wall clan in Brunswick Co sure sounds like Indian Traders.

      anderson1951

      March 7, 2012 at 5:00 am

  3. You quoted above:

    1765 8 Oct. WILLIAM (x) PITMAN of Edgecombe Co. to Nathan Harriss of same, for 46/13/4 current money a tract of 210 acres on the north bank of Whie Oak Swamp in two patents: (1) 150 acres granted to Joseph Wall; (2) 60 acres granted to Wright McLemore by a patent deed dated June 28, 1760. Wit: Eth’d Exum, Arthur Philips, Mark Mason. DB C, p. 360.

    Traci Thompson

    March 7, 2012 at 8:57 am

  4. No idea when he got the Jos Wall property?

    anderson1951

    March 7, 2012 at 9:16 am

  5. Add this one:

    Joseph Wall 150 acres in Bertie Precinct in Maherren Woods, joining Kerbys Creek. Witnesses: Wm. Reed, C. Gale, J. Lovick, Richard Sanderson, Thos. Pollock.

    This is from Hofmann’s Province of NC 1663-1729 Abstracts of Land Patents, p. 204, entry # 2241 p. 177, and she has no date with it.

    Traci Thompson

    March 7, 2012 at 10:03 am

    • DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO C. GALE WAS? COULD HE HAVE BEEN A GAY? PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN? MY GAY’S WERE ON KERBY’S CREEK IN 1723 TO 1785 WHEN JOHN MOVED TO EDGECOMBE CO NC.

      Cheryl Horne

      April 12, 2012 at 11:31 am

      • C. Gale is probably “Christopher Gale” … he was Clerk of the Court in many deed references (Thomas Pollock was also mentioned and he was the Governor on a couple occasions in early 1700s) My guess is that the Kirby’s Creek you refer to was near the Meherrin River. I know a John Gay moved to Edgecombe by 1745 and patented property that same year… I have a new post up now with him mentioned.

        anderson1951

        April 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm

  6. thanks… Kirby’s Creek puts that in the Carolus Anderson area…

    An interesting twist I read on a web post is a DNA match of a Pitman and a couple Wall descendants (25/25)… if the Joseph Wall of Surry is a bastard son that would explain his staying in close touch…

    this deed is hard to reference time/place…Beech Swamp sounds like around Enfield maybe…

    NCHAL-DE2 p. 7, from JOSEPH LEEMAN to ARTHUR PITMAN on the south side of Beech Swamp joining Briery Branch, JONES, and JENKINS (patented by JAMES JENKINS on 17 Feb 1737 who sold it to JOSEPH WALL who in turn sold it to THOMAS TURNER who in turn sold it to JOHN WILKINS who sold it to JOSEPH LEEMAN) dated 16 Jan 1772, ALSO: ELIJAH PITMAN
    —————–
    this is odd to be in the Northampton deeds because this is clearly Edgecombe/Tar River… a stone’s throw from the Elizabeth Pitman 1749 grant…

    NORTHAMPTON 1744 DEED DEEDS 1732-1758 PG 205 MOSES COLEMAN OF EDGE TO CAPTAIN JAMES BARNES OF NORTHAMPTON 7 JAN 1743/4 30 PDS CURRENT MONEY OF VIRGINIA 200 ACRES MORE OR LESS ON THE N SIDE OF TARR RIVER, JOINING HART, FALLING RUN AND THE RIVER, ALL HOUSES, ORCHARDS ETC. WIT: ISAAC DICKINSON, JOSEPH WALL X HIS MARK REG EDGE CO FEB CT 1743 ROBERT FORSTER C CT

    anderson1951

    March 7, 2012 at 11:09 am

  7. Hmm, the DNA isn’t too surprising considering how close the Pitmans and Walls seem to be. The Enfield Beech (Beach) Swamp is the main one I know of. The Northampton deed is definitely Edgecombe land…maybe it was registered in both places due to the grantee being in Northampton? It was registered in Edgecombe Court.

    Traci Thompson

    March 7, 2012 at 1:13 pm

  8. FYI, I tried to follow the Joseph Wall 150 acres. It was granted to Joseph Wall Jr., who deeded it to Joseph Wall Sr., who sold it to Wright McFarland. No record of it passing from McFarland to William Pitman (at least in what I have here.)

    Traci Thompson

    March 7, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    • I’m not sure where this Joseph Wall will lead…from Hofmann’s abstracts: first grant 16, Nov. 1738 ss Fishing Creek…. last entry in 1744/5 selling 3 patents totaling about 800 ac… this was a Sr/Jr situation and they may be selling out to move?

      The John Pitman/Wright Maclemore deeds seem to be near the same area… White Oak Sw, Fishing Creek… perhaps near Beech Swamp. … this William Pitman ends up in Nash Co (Sappony Creek)

      At some point the “possible” son of John Pitman obtains 150 ac of Wall’s land…

      It is still possible that this is only ONE John Pitman… the one who dies in 1781 near the Meherrin River mentions only daughters in his will but that is not conclusive… he seems well off with numerous slaves and could have had multiple plantations… just sayin’… his brother Arthur could have had a son Arthur and this John took him under his wing??? I can see why Forrest King came to that conclusion… I think the Jos Wall land on Mehherin Riv was near the John Pitman land of same… (they would actually be brothers if the DNA stuff is correct)…

      Maddening….

      anderson1951

      March 8, 2012 at 5:23 am

  9. This deed to Robert Pitman in 1754 locates the property of Jos Wall…

    Pitman, Robert. Edgecombe Co.
    Years:1754
    Creator:Office of Secretary of State
    Granville Proprietary Land Office
    Call Number:SSLG 24F
    Location:MARS Id:12.13.24.23 (Folder)
    Scope / Contents:October 26, 1754 168 acres Location: Beginning on Joseph Wall’s line on Beech Swamp 1 copy Deed #206

    Other deeds of Wall reference “White Oak Swamp”… so this has numerous of these folks living very near each other…

    Robert, Ambrose and Thomas Pitman
    Joseph Wall Sr/Jr
    John Pitman and Wright Maclemore
    a younger William Pitman

    the closest “known” Arthur Pitman is son of Ambrose. This Arthur leaves a will in Halifax in 1837… In 1832 he applied for a pension for Rev War service stating his age as 83 yrs… this would place his birth at 1749. I fail to see how a teenager could buy Elizabeth Pitman’s property in 1761.

    anderson1951

    March 8, 2012 at 12:09 pm

  10. I do think the Arthur who bought Elizabeth’s property was young, but I thought it couldn’t be the same Arthur because Ambrose’s Arthur is clearly in Halifax, and the other one *seems* to be in Edgecombe. But then again…I can’t find a lot more evidence than that to refute the idea. Ambrose’s Arthur is definitely on Beach Swamp after the Revolution. But before? His lack of presence in the records really leaves it wide open.

    As for a teenager buying the land, if the teenager had the money, he could do it. A man could not sell land in his own name until age 21, but he could buy it or receive it as a gift at any age.

    So far, for me, the road crew in the Edgecombe court minutes is the best piece of evidence for Arthur and Joseph Pitman living south of Swift Creek in Edgecombe.

    And here’s a question…if these are two different Arthurs…what became of the Edgecombe Arthur?

    Traci Thompson

    March 8, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    • I found him today… I’ll add him to the Elizabeth Land 1761 Page…

      anderson1951

      March 8, 2012 at 4:10 pm

  11. […] Map showing the locations of several Indian reservations, including both the “square tract” and the “circle tract” of the Nottoway reservation. Thomas Kersey (born 1735) owned land on the southside of the Nottoway River, along Three Creeks which was adjacent to the Nottway “square tract” reservation.Source: https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/2-john-pitmans-of-iow/ […]


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