Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

so I start this site in Virginia… go figure

House of The Rising Sun… 1964

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July 9, 2018 at 5:04 pm

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Two forks of a tree…

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If I am correct with my present theory then my 20 year obsession with the illegitimate birth of a son to Elizabeth Anderson about 1725ish may pan out.  There are many assorted facts in all my “Pages” to support the theory.

My newfound friend, Ken Brantley, of the Brantley Association, ( and apparent cousin) has summed up what I have long suspected but was hesitant to acknowledge.

I quote him verbatim (and hope he won’t mind, which I am sure he will not):

“Marc; Late to be getting back with you, but:

As I recall, I believe  you and he [another ANDERSON whom I am communicating with]  matched through the autosomal DNA. That being the case, since you match [him, the other ANDERSON]  in the autosomal DNA (looks at pieces of all your DNA) and yet you do not match the Y-DNA; (father to son only connections), it means that you are related to him somewhere back there.  It tells me that you and he are of the same family and he is carrying the true Y-DNA of this Anderson family. While his is through father to son, your Anderson was through a girl.  The story about the Anderson girl fits this to the tee. The only way you got the Brantley Y-DNA was through an illegitimate birth by an Anderson girl, or an outright adoption, unknown to us.
I would try to determine his lineage, as it is yours too at some point if that is where we got his name..
That’s my opinion.”
So it appears that there may be a way to figure out the actual ANDERSON progenitor of CAROLUS ANDERSON (whom I am convinced, theory-wise, is the brother of the gal (Elizabeth Anderson, that my line stems from)  … WHEW!  Much to my dismay, Carolus Anderson left no male descendants.  But the DNA trail we are discussing leaves open the possibility that the other brother (James Anderson) left male descendants which are showing up.

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February 22, 2018 at 6:26 pm

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Brantley

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I have recently been corresponding with Ken Brantley (of the Brantley Association) concerning my DNA having what appears to be overwhelming similarities to that family name.  This means of course, that a female in my Anderson line mothered a child from a Brantley male…  the particular circumstances unknown other than the fact the child retained the Anderson name.

I suspect that that woman was Elizabeth (Anderson) Pitman just prior to 1733 at The Meherrin River area.

But reality being all fussy about facts and such, any event in the last 300 years or so could have affected my personal DNA.  Therefore it would be nice to compare my DNA results with any and all that may be associated with the William Anderson d1789 clan of Edgecombe County, NC.

Just sayin’

https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/2016/10/22/brantley-blood-anderson-veins/

https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/edward-brantley-patent-iow-1667-and-1669/

But then (not to go down without a fight)…

And since slings and arrows are being thrown about…

A mystery Francis Anderson was wandering around Isle of Wight Virginia at about the same time as Edward Brantley…

So there… now you Brantleys can sweat a bit also… (smiling)

https://andersonnc.wordpress.com/2011/02/05/brantley/


Are there any descendants of Micajah Anderson of Edgecombe who have done a DNA sample?


Also… if any Pit(t)mans have a “suspect” DNA match to the BRANTLEY clan… both myself and Ken Brantley will be interested… we can compare notes as it were…

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Update:   I have gotten in touch with a cousin in Texas.  Each of our different grandfathers were sons of Moses Brock Anderson b.1849  d.1931 (he had 14 children).  We are waiting for his DNA results.  If we match then I assume that traces to 1849 and by inference to George Anderson, Jr of Edgecombe, County, NC (who was born 1798).

Now I would REALLY like to see a DNA result from any Anderson that traces to Edgecombe County and specifically to another son of William Anderson d.1789.  I think a descendant of Micajah Anderson would be the ideal test.

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Here is a new (to me) DNA mystery:

Andrew Jackson Hart of Henderson County, TN.    (This is a blood match to me… genetic distance of 1)

His father hailed from North Carolina.  (I have ran across numerous HARTs in Edgecombe County references)

So the question is- how are any ANDERSONs (or Brantleys) related to any HARTS?   (and the implication, since this is a yDNA match, is that this particular HART was fathered by an ANDERSON)

Here is a clue:

Update:  I have it on good authority that a male descendant of Micajah Anderson of Edgecombe (Civil War Era) has just submitted his DNA test.  I am beside myself with anticipation.  This whole ANDERSON DNA stuff is about to take off.

As an aside (speaking of my, what is it, 4th or 5th Great GrandUncle) Micajah…

And might I compare 1873 “journalism” to todays “journalism” whereby an author with what seems to be an axe to grind… and a barrel of ink, takes aim at a man running for State office…

As a modern 2018ish sort of Anderson…. I have to admit… I would hunt this Sombitch down and whip his ass royally.  But then, I am moderately civil.  Before my time I suspect this would have been grounds for duel.

Assclowns were about the same in 1873 as 2018.  Read the book folks… the only mistake old man Micajah made was marrying a woman 40 years old when he was 60.  I too can understand him sitting by the old tree with a shotgun waiting for her sorry ass to come wandering home with her boyfriend.

Did I mention the boyfriend “smelled”…

Micajah book review

https://archive.org/details/lifeofmicajahand00ande

Note that in the “review” above… the author mentions the paid author Ben Johnson as “a dardey” (I think he meant Darkey)

And why, pray tell, was Micajah referred to as “Cagie” in this article?  Where, I ask myself, was this “journalists “objectivity”?

Democrats… spouting the same bullsh*t since 1873.

And what is his problem with Figi Islanders…

And Micajah’s daughters were as ignorant as what?

Figi Islanders? … this is one weird journalist…

I could go on…

But then, I can be a nit-picker…

 

 

 

 

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December 16, 2017 at 8:53 am

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Some JOLLY folks of IOW & Nansemond

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Some notes by my friend Jerry Jolly…  much of his research is centered around finding these wild anscestors on “maps” in their natural habitat of early Virginia.

 

JOLLY- JOLLIFFE CONNECTION 1585-1750

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August 13, 2017 at 4:46 am

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Traveler’s Rest: 1938

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click on the link… I visit Shorpy’s site almost daily…

http://www.shorpy.com/node/22335?size=_original#caption

Of course this little bungalow was built considerably before 1938… if you disagree… why?  What year do you think?

1938. “Traveller’s Rest, Louisburg vicinity, Franklin County, North Carolina. Farm of A.T. Wilson; a roadside guest house.” 8×10 inch acetate negative by Frances Benjamin Johnston

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July 28, 2017 at 5:09 pm

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When you see it… Ambrose Bennett’s 750 acre patent… 1641

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Young folks today have a pastime called MEMES… goofy little tidbits of nonsense they get a kick out of sharing on their smart phones… another along the same lines is called “When you see it“.  It usually involves a photo with a funny or embarrassing happenstance and unintended side occurrence.

In 1637, in Isle of Wight county, one John Taylor received a patent for 50 acres…

To all… grant John Taylor 50 acres… Isle of Wight… being an Island running up the Pagan shore between two Creeks the one running South East and the other running round the Island bearing to the South west being opposite against the Land of Arthur Smith… due for personal Adventure… 1637

When you see it… it is so obvious as to be humorous… note that the patent verbiage is a perfect description (once you know where to look).

To coin a phrase… Let’s call this Bennett’s Island.

Directly to the West, across what is now known as Champion Swamp, was the patent of the immigrant Christopher Reynolds. Northwesterly was the patent of Arthur Smith. Northeasterly was the land of John Upton.  Ambrose Bennett would obtain this land in 1641.

I had a hell of a time finding the patent… turns out it was not in the early first patents as it should have been.  It wound up in Book 7 with the 1687 batch of patents… for whatever reason that is when it was officially recorded.

Here are some details…  click several times to enlarge.

A co-conspirator in this mapping enterprise (Jerry Jolly) had access to my notes above and makes an attempt to map the Bennett 750 acres…  Here is his rendition (he uses a different software package).

Note  Jerry’s rendition of the John Taylor patent… his software calculates the acreage.  What I call Bennett’s Island appears to be almost exactly 50 acres.

My only critique of Jerry’s calculation is that I think it is too “literal”. By that I mean the old boys in 1641 were perhaps in a hurry and “roughly” threw out the metes with very few bounds. (These early patents did not show the old boys at the peak of their game in the surveying gig.)  Directly below it was another John Upton patent.  Considering the Bennett patent and this Upton patent I find it impossible to accurately plot. (There is too much detail left out of the original patents).   However the abundant clues makes for the ability to make a reasonably accurate guess.  The tedious association of deeds makes for more accuracy.  I find the more that we map the clearer the “big picture”.

IOW…”beginning at the outside of Ambrose Bennetts Land lying Northerly upon the said branch and 500ac of Land more on the other side of the sd. branch opposite against the foresaid Land running Easterly into the woods beginning at an Indian path which goeth over the head of that branch and runneth Southerly upwards from the head of the said branch…” (no name of the said branch) Lt. John Upton 1500ac 1638

Read the Charles Barcroft patent carefully… a theory of mine is that Cypress Creek branched twice coming out of the “lower bay creek”.  In other words, modern Champion Swamp was also known as Cypress Creek in the early days.  It should be somewhat obvious that  Christopher Reynolds patent was to the WEST of the modern Cypress Creek/Swamp.  See Bennett’s Island.

So what we know for sure is that the Northerly bounds of the 750 acres is the “island”  at the head of the “Lower Bay Creek” as the section of creek was named at the time.  Also the Westerly bounds adjoin the property of Christopher Reynolds (the immigrant). Reynolds was actually across the creek.  The Southerly bounds of the patent are still a mystery.  Some clues are available concerning the Easterly bounds of the patent…

Above is from Boddie’s book… Ambrose Bennett Sr has died by 1657, I think, so this is his son in 1678.  This is the sale of a mill obviously… note where it is- “at the head of Pagan Creek“.  I assert that this is the same creek named “Lower Bay Creek” in Bennett’s 750 acre patent.  The key term, in my opinion, is “head” as opposed to the “mouth” of any creek.  The head is the ending point of a creek.  In this case the Pagan Creek “ends” and Cypress Creek “begins”.  Also of keen interest to me are the people mentioned…  James Tullaugh, James Bagnall, Richard Reynolds and Walter Rutter.    Note that by 1678 James Bagnall had property “adjoining” Ambrose Bennet’s 750 acres.  Bagnall married a daughter of the pastor Robert Bracewell.

If you study my research… I think I have successfully proven “where” the immigrant Christopher Reynold’s property was… as noted above.  Note Richard Jordan’s patent below Reynolds (also note the reference to Cypress Swamp in the patent)- I purport this is proof that the modern Champion Creek was known as Cypress Creek in the 1600s.  Essentially there was a “western” Cypress Creek and an “eastern” Cypress Creek.  This also explains how the large (over 3,000 acre) patent of William Boddie could “begin” on Cypress Creek.

More later…  I am attempting to show where the immigrant Robert Bracewell had his property obtained from John Upton….


A little Googling paid off… this is from Carey Bracewell’s book (he is my Go To source for Braswell research… I’ve followed his work for years)

The same thing without the pitch about his book…

source:  http://braswellgenealogy.blogspot.com/2007/10/some-early-isle-of-wight-co-virginia.html

Record of Wills, Deeds, Etc., Vol. 1 1662-1715, Page 426.
“Articles of Agreemt concluded & agreed Between Ambross BENNETT of ye one partie & Thomas WEBB of ye other partie in manner & forme as followeth. Impris it is agreed between ye parties aforesd that ye sd Ambross BENNETT doth give unto ye aforesd Thomas WEBB & his heires forever, one acre of Land, yt he shall erect a Mill upon, & ye priviledge of ye Runn yt ye sd Mill doth stand upon, and it is further agreed between ye parties aforesd, that if in Case the afforesd Thomas WEBB be att any tyme disposed to make sale of ye aforesd Mill, or Acre of Land, the aforesd Ambrose BENNETT or his heirs for ever, shall have the refusall, of ye aforesd. Mill & ye Acre of Land, And it is further agreed between ye parties aforesd, that the sd Thomas WEBB is to grind the aforesd Ambross BENNETTs Corne toll free, & his heires & all ym that doo belong to his owne family for ever, And it is further agreed between ye parties aforesd that ye sd Ambross BENNETT doth gett & lett unto ye aforesd Thomas WEBB Sixty Acres of Land for ye terme of Thirty years complett & ended, bounded of the one side upon the path, that goeth to ye Church bounded on ye other side, as farr as ye aforesd Ambross BENNETTs land doth runne & soe over ye Runn & soe bounded upon ye Land of Mr. Robert BRACEWELL, and from his Land A Cross over ye path that goeth to the Church It is agreed between the parties aforesd, that ye sd Thomas WEBB is to give the aforesd Ambross BENNETT in Consideration of ye aforesd Amross BENNETT in Consideracon of ye aforesd Land three thousand pounds of tob & Cask & one hogshead of ground meal, to be pd ready downe, the Tobaccoe to be pd fifteen hundred in the year, of or Lord God One thousand Six hundred fifty & two, & for the true performance hereof we have Enforchangeably sett or hands & seales ye 29th of Aprill 1650. The word heires incerted in ye first article was done by ye consent of Ambross BENNETT being onely forgotten att ye first soe along. Ambross A. BENNETT (seal), Thomas W. WEBB (seal) (his mark). Teste: Robert BRACEWELL. Ann A. BENNETT (her mark)

This was entered in ye indyent water way… Signed sealed & d d in ye prsence of Henry PRESTON, George RAWLEY 9th Febry Ambrose BENNETT acknowledged ye wthin written Articles In open Cort held for ye Isle of Wight County & by him proved to be Recorded which is accordingly Ordered & done & Examin’d pr me Johann COMBE, Cl Dep…”

The church referenced above would be the famous “Old Brick Church”.

Note also this deed of John Upton…

Virginia Land Grants, Volume 1, page 605
“To all to whome these presents shall come I Sr. John HARVEY Lt Governr &c and &c whereas &c NOW KNOW yee that I the said Sr. John HARVEY Kt doo wth the consent of the Councell of State accordingly give and grant unto Leuft John UPTON one thousand acres of Land, Scituate and being in the Countie of the Isle of Wight adjoining to the outside of Ambrose BENNETT’s land lying Northerly Upon the said branch and five hundred acres of Land more on the other Side of the Said branch apposite against the aforesaid Land running Easterly into the woods beginning at an Indian oath which goeth and the head of that branch and runneth Southerly upwards from the head of the said branch the said fifteene hundred acres of land being due unto him the said Leift John UPTON by and for the transportation of thirty prsons into this Colony whose names are in the Records mentioned this pattent To have and to hold &c dated the 10th of November 1638.

And note this information from John Upton’s will…

Deeds, Wills, Guardians Accounts Book A, 1636-1767 Pages 38-40
“IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN, I Capt John UPTON of the Isle of Wight County in Virginia Gent. being Sick of Body but in perfect Memorey do ordain this as my Last Will and Testament in Manner and form as followeth… IMPRIMIS, ITEM. I give… unto my Elest Son John UPTON all that Tract of Land being part of it in the Tenure of John KING, James BAGNALL & Nicholas MORRIS, Containing in the Whole Eight Hundred and fifty acres of Land, and if the said John UPTON dies before he comes to the age of One and Twenty years then I give and bequeath the Said Land unto (39) William, Elizabeth, Sarah & Sarah & Margaret UNDERWOOD to be Divided as followeth (Vizt) Elizabeth, Sarah & Margaret UNDERWOOD each of them a Hundred Acres, and the remainder unto William UNDERWOOD. ITEM, I give and bequeath unto my Said Son one Mare fole and one Cow with Calfe, being upon the probate of my Will Sett apart, for him with their increase, And if it should happen that my Said Son dies before the Age of One and Twenty, that the sd Mare fole and Cow with their Increase to be Equally Shared amongst my Daughters in Law Elizabeth, Sarah & Margaret UNDERWOOD, ITEM. I give and bequeath unto William UNDERWOOD, Elizabeth, Sarah & Margarett UNDERWOOD that tract or parcell of Land runing apon this Side the fresshett near Ambrose BENNETT, Containing fifteen Hundred Acres of Land, Except and allways… out of this Land Three Hundred Acres which Mr. Robert BRACEWELL hath. ITEM, I give and bequeath unto William, Elizabeth, Sarah and Margarett UNDERWOOD all my Land at Rappahannock or what shall be hereafter made good upon my rights they to be possesst with it after my Wifes’ decease, And for the rest of my Estate, Goods, Chattels, Servants, Household Stuff, Lands Tenemts Hereditamts what soever here in Virginia or Elsewhere… I give Devise and bequeath the same unto my very Loveing and Welbeloved wife Margaret UPTON whome I constitute, ordain, & make Sole Executrix of this my Last Will and Testament; and I hereby desire and made my Loveing friends Mr. George HOWDON, William UNDERWOOD and James TAYLOR Clark, my overseers desiring them to Se this my will performed, Likewise I give and ordain my Executx to give each of my Overseers a Ring of Twenty Shillings Sterling price. Likewise ordain Ann WILLIAMSON the wife of James WILLIAMSON to be Equall Sharer in my Land at Rappahannock with thesse above named. ITEM. I give unto Elizabeth UNDERWOOD one pillow & pillow cloth to be delivered at ther day of Marriage. Furthermore I do by thesse prssents Revoke all former Wills by me made Except this my last (40) Will. IN WITNESS, I the Said Capt. John UPTON have hereunto Set my hand and Seal this Sixteenth day of January Anno Domoni. It is to be understood that what Land I have formerly disposed of in that Trackt of fifteen hundred Acres upon the freshett by Ambrose BENNETTs is to rest upon condition, and the remainder Divided as is before provided. Sealed & Signed in the presence of us John J GOTLINS (mark) James TAYLOR. John UPTON Signr.
(recorded December 16, 1652 – Ed.)

So how to break all that info down to somehow draw it on a map???   Later Braswell will also obtain the rights to a MILL which he bequeaths to his heirs… is it the same mill???  Consider this:

Hopkins book, I think (pg.250)  23 Nov 1713….  William Hunter and wife, Mary Hunter, of Newport Parish to Richard West of the same….  300 acres in Newport Parish (being formerly owned by Robert Coleman of the same and now in the tenure of the said William Hunter) on Backbay Creek whereon Webbs Mill doth stand by and known as Tullagh Mill and Longs Mill now Wests Mill along Herring Branch to the Great Road.  Land is bounded by James Benn, the Widow Long, Robert Clarke, Thomas Wright and the Reedy Branch.  The land was lately Escheat.

Wit:  Thomas Pitt and Bare Mackine                             William Hunter

Just for sh*ts and giggles, I consulted the 1865 Civil War map for IOW:

cwSnippet

I had hoped to find a mill… no such luck.  But note the REYNOLDS descendant at this time.  Also note that Cypress Creek is labeled on the “western” side where modern Champion Creek is now.  The yellow area is what I take to be the Main Road.

I Googled a modern map but it shows too much modern changes to be any help.

So where was Webb’s Mill in the mid 1600s???

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May 28, 2017 at 5:07 pm

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Old South Quay Nansemond

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I read this a few years ago and recently ran across it again.  I show this area on my Isle of Wight and Nansemond maps…  Viewing it today on say, Google maps, will not at all reveal what it was in its heyday…

Here is a bit of its history…

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4247939?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

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March 17, 2017 at 10:24 am

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