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TTT John Browne of Kingsale, 1639-1713?, Indian Trader

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A bit of a prelude… this patent of 1711 has come to my attention… it references a John Brown and a Thomas Brown “of Lower Norfolk” in 1650 to 1656…

My understanding of the term “Lower Norfolk” is along these lines…  it was north of what I consider “Nansemond”… there was a short period of time when a small chunk of Isle of Wight was considered “Upper Norfolk” and across the Nansemond River was “Lower Norfolk”… hence all this senseless confusion… its all just Goofy and even the old timers got tired of the confusion and renamed the damn county.

per a Wikipedia blurb…

Lower Norfolk County is a long-extinct county which was located in colonial Virginia from 1637 until 1691.
New Norfolk County was formed in 1636 from Elizabeth City Shire, one of the eight original shires (or counties) formed in 1634 in the colony of Virginia by direction of the King of England. New Norfolk County included all the area in South Hampton Roads now incorporated in the five independent cities located there in modern times.
The following year, in 1637, it was divided into Upper Norfolk County and Lower Norfolk County.
In 1691 Lower Norfolk County was in turn divided to form Norfolk County and Princess Anne County.

The 2 fellows mentioned below may be in these records…

Brief Abstract of Lower Norfolk County and Norfolk County Wills

http://books.google.com/books/about/Brief_Abstract_of_Lower_Norfolk_County_a.html?id=NmAWAAAAYAAJ

Brown_Nicholson1711patent

The Indian Trader does not appear in Nansemond, per his deposition, until about 1665 or so…  Or, to put it bluntly, the Indian Trader below was still in Europe and barely a teen ager when the two guys above were in “Lower Norfolk”… 

1707 deposition-               (my theory of the Indian Trader)

“…Personally Came and appeared Jno Browne aged sixty eight yeares or thereabouts who on his Oath on ye holy evangelist taken saith that in the year 1659 or 60 he this Deponent came into Virginia and lived in Henrico County some years and then came to live on Blackwater River” (See footnote “Full Account” for, well, the full account)

born:  1639 or thereabouts

“…personally Came and appeared Richd Booth aged sixty three years or thereabouts who on his Oath on the Holy Evangelists taken saith that in or about the year 1661 this Deponent came into Virginia and served Major Merritt six years… And this Deponent further saith that in the year 1667 he being employed by one William West to go in a Canoe with Certain goods &c to the Maherine Indian Towns one Jno Browne and a certain Weyanoake Indian called Tom Frusman being in the Canoe with him as they went down Blackwater River”

Indian Trader

 

 

1659/60 arrived in Virginia, served some years, living in Henrico County…

1667 employed by Wm West as Indian Trader on Blackwater near Kingsale area…

WEST, WILLIAM and REBECCA BRASWELL, daughter of Robert Braswell

1668. W.&D. B. 2, p. 52 & 55

Marriages of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, 1628-1800:   By Blanche A. Chapman

1673…witnesses deed of gift of Hodges Council
On 20 Dec 1673 Hodges Council made a gift of land as follows: “I Hodges Councill of the Lower Parish do give…. to Joseph Vick of ye said Parish, 50 acres on Beaver Dam Swamp, adjacent to Robert Lawrence… and furthermore it is agreed that if the said Joseph Vicks have any other child beside this his present daughter, going by and bearing the name of Lucy, she shall after the decease of her father enjoy the land for her and her heirs, but if the aforesaid Jos. Vicks shall have any more children by this, his present wife, sonne or daughter, neverthe less the above Lucy shall enjoy ye land, but if the said Lucy shall decease without heirs, then the said land shall fall to either brother or sister, but if the said Joseph Vicks and his daughter Lucy shall both decease without heirs, then the aforesaid shall fall unto ye said Hodges Councill and his heirs again.”
Signed Hodges Council
Witnesses: John Brown, Rowland Buckley, & Richard Booth
This deed was recorded on 9 March 1681/2 (IOW DB1, p.480)

1676 Bacon’s Rebellion

...and did not willingly and readily surrender up themselves when they were summoned thereto by captain Thomas Powell, nor to Richard Thomson, Dominick Rice, John Bagwell, William Potts, John Richens, Arther Long, Thomas Lushington, Robert Weekes, Charles Death, John Lawson, John Browne and Mathew Sadler, who were all notorious actors in the said rebellion, but that they and every of them shall suffer and undergo such paines, penalties and punishments not extending to life, as by an act or severall acts of the said present grand assembly, or by order or orders, awards or judgments of the right honourable the governour and councell already hath passed, or shall for that purpose passe, nor to James Lanquester who being an active rebell, was taken in armes and committed to prison in the height of the rebellion, and upon his submission and takeing the oath of allegiance, was by the right honourable the governour pardoned and released, and after that entered himselfe a souldier under the command of major Robert Beverley, and soone after run a way from his coullers and became an active rebell, and is since fled and escaped not daring to abide a legall tryall.  (Henings…http://vagenweb.org/hening/vol02-18.htm#page_371)

(I don’t know for sure this is the same Browne, however, his association with William West makes him a logical candidate to be with the rebels.  William West was sentenced to hang for his involvement… a petition was written in his defense and he eventually returned to IOW.)

1681… deposition

Bateman, William: Nuncupative, proven by Elizabeth Goldwin, age 31 years, saayeth said Bateman being at the house of the deponent’s sister, declared his brother and sister were unhuman to him— whole estate to him or her at whose house he should decease etc. Further proof by Thomas Hutchins, age 24 years; that the said Bateman was at the house of Mr. Thomas Giles etc. deposition of Richard Read, age 27 years and of John Brown, age 44 years.    (born 1637…”or thereabouts”)
Probate is therefore granted Mr. Thomas Gyles on the said William Bateman’s estate. R. October 11, 1681.     Page 220, Wills and administration Bk 1 1647-1719, Chapman

(I’m pretty sure the folks mentioned above are in the “Kingsale” area….)

1682…witnesses deed for Kingsale Sw area

On November 6, 1682, Robert Lawrence , Richard Booth, and John Brown, witnessed a deed of Mathew Strickland and his wife Eliz. of Lower Parish to William Evans of Upper Parish 800 acres on the main swamp of King Sale for 4,000 lbs. of tobacco

Mathew Strickland had a large chunk of property just north of John Browne in Kingsale . His grandson married who I suspect is a granddaughter of John Browne. Mathew Strickland Sr. had two large tracts of land… along with the Kingsale property was another some miles north along the Blackwater River in (modern) Isle of Wight proper. Thomas Boon lived there (and I surmise William Boon).  This property in Kingsale could be the logical tie-in with the Braswells, Boons and Brownes…  many of whom resettle to the Roanoke River area of North Carolina around 1712…

A deed associated with William Strickland is Aug. 5, 1723 which  proves that Martha Brown was the husband of this William Strickland, son of  Matthew Strickland, Jr. and Ann Braswell.

Barnabe McKinnie & Wife Mary to Joseph Joyner, 150 acre deed of gift made by

William Brown deceased by his last will did give to his daughter Martha,

which is to say Martha Brown which land was laps before the aforesaid

Brown’s death and is now come due to me by virture of a relapsed patent

bearing the date November 22, 1723 and now being exchanged by WILLIAM

STRICKLAND the husband of said Martha Brown with Joseph Joyner we do for

this reason bargain and confirm to Joseph Joyner, SS Moratuck River, part of

survey called Walnut Gut Fork. Wit: Isaac Ricks & William Humphrey . This

Will reference in Bertie County Deed Book B, Page 8 (Aug. Court 1725

1688

Walter RUTTER and wife, Martha, sell to Daniel LONGE, 30 acres, part of a patent of 150 acres granted to RUTTER, 30 Oct. 1686. Dated 29 Oct. 1688. Teste: John BROWNE, Wm. WEST, Jr.

( This reference lends more credibility to his “business” relationship with William West… a William West acquires property at the “mouth” of Kingsale Sw in 1705)

1688… acquires 600 acres

John Brown

To all &c Whereas &c Now Know ye… give & grant unto John Brown six hundred acres of land lying in ye Isle of Wight County, beginning at a Live oake on ye south side of Kingsaile Swamp & runing thence South East Eighty chaines to a pine, then South West two hundred thirty seven chaines, then Northwest sixty six chains to a pine, then North ten deg. west twenty eight chaines to ye swamp aforesd, then along ye sd Swamp to ye first Station…. trans. twelve psons… 20 Oct 1688

1690… sells the 600 acres

9 Feb 1690…. John Browne…. 200 acres to William Scott and 100 acres to Richard Showell and 200 acres to Thomas Rives (being a patent granted said Browne in 1688).

Wit: Robert Scott and Richard Scott

9 Feb 1690…. John Browne and wife, Mary Browne to ??…. 200 acres adjoining Wolf Pit Branch and Richard Howell.

Wit: Robert Scott, Richard Scott and Thomas (X) Reeves.

(Herein lies a quandary…is this the son of John Browne or Browne Sr and his wife?   I’ve seen no proof of father/son relationship… more later…)

3 Jun 1690…. John Browne, the Elder, to Richard Shewll…. 100 acres (being part of 600 acres) on Broadneck Swamp adjoining Wolf Pit Branch.

Wit: Edward (X) Floid, Henry Baker and Thomas (X) Wickins.

(This is the final parcel of the 600 acre patent of 1688)

1692… acquires 220 acres

John Browne IOW, 1692

To All &c Whereas &c Now Know yee…give and grant unto John Browne of Isle of Wight County two hundred and twenty acres of land situate on ye South Side of Kingsale Swamp in ye Lower parish …beginning at a maple in ye sd swamp & Lower Corner tree of ye land of Jonathan Robinson & thence by their line south two hundred and sixteen pole to a white oak in their said line then west by north a hundred seventy six pole to a great pine  Then north twenty six degrees east a hundred twenty four pole to a pine a corner tree of ye said Brownes former Land then by ye line of thar Land northwest a hundred and sixty pole to a small live oak in Kingsale Swamp abovesaid and soe up ye run of ye sd swamp to ye first station…trans. five psons… 29 Apr 1692

2 Dec 1692….   John Browne, Sr. appoints John Browne as his attorney in the difference with Capt. Hugh Campbell.

Wit: Daniel Leigh and Mary (X) Browne

(Again, is this his son?)

John (X) Browne

(Evidently, Browne lives on this property for the next 14 years…)

1695… This deed associates several people…

IOW Deed Bk 1, HOPKINS

(p.169) 23 Jul 169-… [other deeds suggest 1695]   Elizabeth Booth, wife of Richard Booth of Blackwater, appoints Mr. Jeremiah Exum as her attorney to acknowledge a Deed of Sale.

Wit: William Brown and John Rogawes

Richard Booth and John Browne were both Indian Traders and associates… just after 1700 they both relocate to Wicocon Creek in NC… (Browne seems to remarry about this time).

John Rogers and Thomas Browne were neighbors… each had property several miles south of the John Browne property at Kingsale… both Rogers and Thomas Browne  later relocated to Potecasi Creek in NC, Rogers married the sister of Booth (Mary).

The first mention of William Browne getting property of his own is in 1702, about 8 or 10 miles west of the Kingsale land of John Browne… it was in modern Southampton County (old Isle of Wight).  To me this begs the question of perhaps William Browne was living with his father John Browne?… there is no “smoking gun” proof…

1706… sells the 220 acres

9 Aug 1706…. John Browne and wife, Bridgett Browne, to Samuel Canidy…. 220 acres (being a patent dated 29 Apr 1692 in the lower parish on the south side of Kingsale Swamp and bounded by Jonathan Robinson and William Stott (Scott?).

Wit: Richard Exum and William Murray.

John (X) Browne

Rec: 10 Jun 1706

(this John Browne is alive in 1707, from his deposition…aged 68. 

In 1710 Philip Ludwell did his own depositions of most of the same people in1710 that Edward Moseley had deposed in 1707…

John Brown was deposed somewhere between Wiccacon Creek and the Maherrin Indian Town. 
   Now the Money Question… Where was John Brown living? He was 71 or 73 yrs of age in 1710 (per another deposition in IOW) .  Ludwell says he “came up Chowan River almost from Wicocon Creek by water..to Nansemond Town” … that  implies that John Brown was living very near to Wiccacon Creek as Ludwell left the next day after deposing Brown.  Brown left no property records in Chowan that I can find.  But there is no doubt this is the Indian Trader of Kingsale Swamp, VA, born 1639.  This has moved from theory to Fact.

 My proof for above is here:   

http://andersonnc.wordpress.com/roanoke-r-to-chowan-1863-civil-war-map/

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per Boddie, Southside Virginia Families, Volume 2
Thomas Mann, son of Thomas Mann and his wife Elizabeth (Booth?), was born in Nansemond County, Virginia, before 1669, probably about 1666, as he was at least 21 in 1690 when he sold 100 acres of land on the north east side of Corowaugh Swamp to Henry Hearne (D.B. 1, p.24). In that year he was also granted 200 acres with Hodges Councill, the younger, adjacent John Brown and Kinsale Swamp for transportation of four persons into the colony. Hodges Councill and Thomas Mann assigned their right to Kerle on Sept 9, 1691 (Ibid., pp. 40-41)….
In 1692 Thomas Mann discovered an illegal flaw in the assignment which Richard Booth had made his father, Thomas Mann, on Nov. 8, 1681, for that year he went to court and brought action against Richard Booth to make a “good and sufficient” deed of sale for the land to him Thomas Mann, Junr., heir of Thomas Mann, Senr., deceased. Richard Booth was compelled to do so, and on Feb. 9, 1692/3 made another deed to Thomas Mann, Junr. (Ibid. pp. 53-54). On Nov. 8, 1696 Thomas Mann sold the remainder of this land…
In 1698 or 1699 Thomas Mann followed the tide of migration down the Chowan River to North Carolina and settled in Chowan Precinct…. his land “lying & being on Wicacon Creek in Chown Prest beginning as by Surver bearing date April the 7th, 1701, at a marked pine in Thos Manns Line where he now lives”…

Thomas Mann Jr settles very near (if not adjacent to) his aunt and Richard Booth on Wiccacon Creek in NC.  I think John Browne was near.  Booth dies 1713.  A point of interest is that Mann Jr lived adjacent to Browne on Kingsale Swamp in IOW… just sayin’…

Mann_propertyIOW

#1648 (Hofmann)   “At a Court held at ye House of John Hill  18 Jan. 1714″

The Last Will and Testament of RICHARD BOOTH is proved by ye Oaths of Edward Bryan and Henry and Katharine Bradley.

1713…John Browne  died intestate?

Not finding a plausible will for John Browne in IOW, Grimes or elsewhere, I assume he died intestate.  A possible event is succinctly noted by Hathaway:  ” John Browne dead.  April 7, 1713.”, p. 34, Vol. 1, The North Carolina historical and genealogical register.  This note was in his listing of wills prior to 1760 and gives no context but hints of a possible record somewhere, perhaps a court record.

Now I’m a bit frustrated…I have the Hofmann book in front of me which “should” have the Court Minutes of 1713 of which Hathaway quotes freely for much of his work (written 1900 if I remember correctly).  Unfortunately the Hofmann abstracts are missing the 1713 section… it has 1711 and begins anew at 1714.  DARNIT! either this section is misplaced or missing.  Hathaway also mentions that he quoted from the Secretary of State records but the NC Archives online does not mention a Brown will of 1713 that I can find.

A bit more speculation…

Thomas Joyner, Jr and Bridgeman Joyner each signed the petition for the pardon of William West in 1677 after Bacon’s Rebellion.  Whether or not they participated is open to debate.  John Rogers Sr was found guilty of carrying away property belonging to Mr. Robert Caufield “during the late horrid rebellion”, (Order Bk. 1671-90, p. 165), and on the same date John Rogers, Sr. was found guilty of seizing Arthur Allen’s house, etc. (p. 167, Boddie).  All these “horrid” accounts are written from the “winners” perspective of course… the “rebels” point of view would have been different I am sure.   This John Rogers appears to relocate from Surry County to Nansemond.  John Rogers (Sr or Jr?) is purported to marry Mary, the sister of Richard Booth who devises property to Rogers in 1681.  All of these gents are of the same generation.  Thomas Joyner Jr. and Bridgeman Joyner settle near the Kingsale Swamp area of IOW.  Another neighbor, Thomas Mann married Elizabeth, another sister of Richard Booth.  Also nearby, in Kingsale, is John Browne.  In 1690 Hodges Councell, “the younger” and Thomas Man Jr. patent 200 acres “beg. at a marked gum John Brown’s corner tree in Kingsale swamp”.  All of these folks were “confederates” if you will…   J.B. Boddie, in one of his Historical Southern Families volumes, attempts to connect this Brown with Bridgett Williams… I disagree.

Other researchers have attempted to tie John Joyner, son of Bridgeman Joyner, to a 2nd marriage to one Eizabeth Brown. I suggest that if there is a connection of an Elizabeth Brown it may have been a daughter of John Browne.  This John Browne relocates to North Carolina about 1700 near Wiccacon Creek, along with Richard Booth and Booth’s nephew Thomas Mann, Jr.

This account by Boddie gets my attention… well actually it just confuses the hell out of me… Boddie made a lot of helpful notes but DAMN! sometimes he was just WRONG!

Historical Southern Families Vol. 1

Pg. 23 John Brown died in Surry Co. 1714, wife Eliza Brown 6-6-1714 left 1 son and 4 daughters as follows:

1. Sylvester Brantley Bertie Co. NC  (is this a typo?… is this a step-son?… is this a female?)

2 Hester Brantley, the will of Hester probated in 1727 in Surry Co. VA mentioned her daughters Priscilla and Elizabeth and her 2 sisters Eliza Joyner and Grace Warren. Appoints James Wilson and James Piland executors.

3 Eliza married to Nehemiah Joyner   (is this an Elizabeth Brown different from the one I am researching?… if so this can get VERY confusing!))

4 Grace married John Warren of Bertie Co. NC

5 Susannah Brown

There is a missing link here… I’m wondering if it may be a son John Jr that left this will in Surry County?

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That account has caused speculation of a JOYNER connection to these deeds in North Carolina in 1727… (this is where I begin to differ with Boddie)

Mary Best Bell, Colonial Bertie County, NC, DB A-H, 1720-1757

Bell, C 167(160)  Susanah Brown, John Warren & wife Grace, Sylvester Brown and ____ to Elizabeth Joyner

Feb. 12, 1727/28. *. 256 A. “…love… for our sister Elizabeth Joyner…” Land formerly belonging to our father, John Brown dec’d.  Patent July 28, 1713.  On WS Chowan adj. J. Curlee, J. Smith.  Wit: Fincher Hayne, Charles Brown.  Court  *.  Thomas Crew D. C/C.

(I note that this does not state that their father died in 1713… it merely says the patent is dated 1713)

C 171  Susanna Brown & Sylvester Brown to William Evans  Nov 22, 1729.  5 pds  for 100 A.  On Horse swamp.  Adj. John Thomas, Lazarus Thomas.  Wit: Richard Williford, Mary Luden (Laden?).  Feb Court 1729.  Thomas Crew D. C/C.

and again in 1741…

F 344  Soloman Joyner of Edgecombe Co., & John Joyner & wife Elizabeth of Isle of Wight Co, Va. to Joseph Witherington of Surry Co, Va. Feb 7, 1741. 25 pds, for 256 A.  A Patent granted John Brown for 256 A. July 28, 1713 on “Bank of the River” adj. James Curlee, John Smyth  Wit: James Washington, Henry Crafford, Morning Crafford, John Sherard, William Plyant, John Fort (FOORT).  May Court 1742.  Thomas Crew C/C.

So the Elizabeth Joyner who received the Brown property by gift in 1727 was the wife of John Joyner… (of Isle of Wight in 1741)

all of which relates to this patent…

Margaret Hoffman, PROVINCE OF NORTH CAROLINA ABSTRACTS OF LAND PATENTS 1663-1729

3313  pg. 285  John Brown  date (not given)  256 acres on the W. side of Chowan River, joining the bank of ye river, James Courlee, and John Smith  Witnesses: (not given)

The half dozen patents before and after that one are in the date range of 1713-1716… so logic dictates that the date of July 28, 1713 is probably correct and was referenced in the later deeds… my problem with this is a “death” reference for “a” John Brown in 1713 (Hathawy).

” John Browne dead.  April 7, 1713.”, p. 34, Vol. 1, The North Carolina historical and genealogical register.  If this is the same guy then the patent may have been issued after his death OR it was perhaps re-issued to a son of the same name.  My theory is that it was devised to a John Brown Junior.  And this is the John Brown that died sometime before 1727 and was the father of the Brown children who gifted the property to their sister Elizabeth who married John Joyner of Isle of Wight.

Now I haven’t exactly pulled this John Brown Junior out of thin air… I do have some proof:

3 Jun 1690…. John Browne, the Elder, to Richard Shewll…. 100 acres (being part of 600 acres) on Broadneck Swamp adjoining Wolf Pit Branch.

Wit: Edward (X) Floid, Henry Baker and Thomas (X) Wickins.

2 Dec 1692….   John Browne, Sr. appoints John Browne as his attorney in the difference with Capt. Hugh Campbell.

Wit: Daniel Leigh and Mary (X) Browne

Consider this deed of Susanna Brown & Sylvester Brown again from 1729… mention of Lazaris Thomas… note where he and they seem to be living:

C 171  Susanna Brown & Sylvester Brown to William Evans  Nov 22, 1729.  5 pds  for 100 A.  On Horse swamp.  Adj. John Thomas, Lazarus Thomas.  Wit: Richard Williford, Mary Luden (Laden?).  Feb Court 1729.  Thomas Crew D. C/C.

JAMES PEEK to JOHN WARREN, Aug 9 1727, 10 pds for 100 a. SS Chowan River, adj. LAURANCE MARTIN, LAZARUS THOMAS at Horse Swampe. Wit: John Beverley, John Sutton. November Court 1729, (Bertie Co Deed Book C p181)

JOHN EARLY to DAVID RYAN, heir of THOMAS RYAN, deceased. 1754, 350 a.. for discharge of a bond from John Early to Thomas Ryan land between JAMES WILKON’s line and the Holley Swamp at Horse Swamp” adj. ISAAC LEWIS, JAMES WILLIAMSON, LAZARUS THOMAS, WILLIAM WARREN to the Wiccacon Swamp. Wit: John Cricket, Thomas Kinsey, John Nichols Jr. Aug Court 1754 (Bertie Co Deed Book H p111)

Note that John Warren was in the 1727 deed with Susanna Brown and Sylvester Brown gifting the property to Elizabeth Joyner…

BK B PG. 112

1715 – Elinor Merrett/Meriet to William Nixon/Mixon (melton) 16 Apr 1715 p of atty to act in open Court 130 A for ye said William Merret unto James Peeke. Witnesses: Peter Evens, Rich Barfield.

Ellinor Merritt to Wm. Mixon. Power of Attorney to acknowledge deed to Rich’d Barefield for land sold by my husband Charles Merritt and Peter Evans to said Barefield, 280 acres on Deep Creek branch, Test. Wm. Mixon, Peter Evans.

Same to acknowledge deed to James Peake, of Boston, Executed by my husband Charles Merritt for 130 acres on south side of Chowan River, at ye mouth of Deep Branch; Apl. 16, 1715. Test, Peter Evans, Richard Barefield (NCHGR 138).

…from will of James Peake 1728…

“Item my will is that my executors hereafter mentioned do grant & give to

John Warren of the precinct a good and lawfull deed for one hundred acres of 

land that he now lives on he paying at his ens__ling the said deed Tenn

pounds currant mony of North Carolina not withstanding not withstanding

(sic) any thing that is before mentioned to the contrary.”

Charles Merrit was an old croney Indian Trader with John Brown and Richard Booth.

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Another perplexing snippet of info by Hathaway, vol 1:

Hathaway, vol 1

Bridgett Brown, to my son Isaac Lewis. Power of attorney.

(no date but in 1713 range)

 Who knows what records Hathaway was digging into-  early Chowan or Bertie deeds I assume-  but he is merely abstracting the records… was this Bridgett the widow of John Browne and if so, who was she?  If so, she was possibly a former wife of  _____ Lewis?

Aha!… I found a Hofmann abstract for that power of attorney…

Deed Bk W #1, Chowan Co., NC, Hofmann

#321 pg. 154 BRIDGETT BROWN of Chowan Prect. to ISAAC LEWIS of ye Co. of Albemarle, my well beloved Son  15 July 1713  Letter of Attorney to prosecute to Judgement any person I, the sd. BRIDGETT BROWN, shall at this time or from time to time bring action against and likewise to Defend any action brought against me   Wit.  TREDDELL KEEFE, MARY LEWIS m her mark  Reg. (not given)

That sure sounds like a nervous widow to me… no husband around so she turns to her son to act in her stead…

A year earlier… note the names Treddell Keefe, John Smith and an unknown _____ Lewis…

1712. Chowan Deed Book W #1, Page 149, #309. Treddell Keefe of Chowan Precinct, yeoman and Eliner Keefe to Edward Moore of Nancy(?) in ye Colony and Dominion of Virginia. 20 January in ye 10th year of ye Reign of our Soverign Lady Ann by ye Grace of God Queen of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Queen, defender of ye faith in ye year of Our Lord 1712. For 15 (sic) pounds of Tobacco. 150 acres more or less, joining Peterson, Deep Branch, Robert Potter (?), a path and ye Creek and is that Messuage and parsel of Land at a place called Meherring. Part of a patent granted to the said Keefe March 5, 1711/12 by Edward Hyde with ye consent of ye Lord Proprietors of Carolina.

Witnesses are John Smith, _______Lewis () his mark. Reg. (not given).

Now a year after the power of attorney for Bridgett Brown of 1713…

#411 pg. 200  GEORGE SMITH of Chowan Prect. and SARAH his wife to JACOB LEWIS (residence not given) 21 Apr. 1714  16 L. current money of ye Province 250 acres more of less on ye west side of Wicacon Creek, joining a branch of Brooks creek, WILLIAM BUNCH, WASER, RASBERRY and ye first Branch next to Little Town near JAMES CORLEE  part of 640 acres surveyed by JOHN —-RLEY and part of 400 acres surveyed by JOHN RASBURY  all houses, orchards etc.  Wit., JOHN SMITH, WILLIAM BROWNE  Reg. (not given)

#412 pg. 201 WILLIAM BROWNE of Chowan Prect., planter and MARTH his wife to MATTHEW RUSHEN of the sd. Prect., planter  21 Apr. 17–  8 L.  150 acres on ye west side of Meherrin river, joining Dividing Run and ye River  part of 640 acres surveyed by ye aforsd. BROWN   Wit., GEORGE SMITH, JOHN SMITH  Reg. 2 Feb. 1714/15

There is no doubt in my mind that the above William Brown with wife Martha is who I propose is the son of the Indian Trader John Browne…

Isaac Lewis seems to stay around the area (roughly) where Thomas Browne d1718 settled…

1713. Chowan Deed Book W #1, Page 148, #306. Edward Moore of Nancymond County to Lewis Williams of Chowan Precinct. April 20, 1713. Power of Attorney to receive acknowledgemnet of sale of 150 acres from Treddell Keefe. Witnesses are Isaac Lewis, John Smith. Reg. (not given)

1739. Bertie Deed Book F, Page 92. Isaac Lewis to William Moor of Ahoskey. November 3, 1739. 22 Pounds *. “within mentioned lands” (described in the previous deed from Samuel Sizemore of Chowan Precinct to Isaac Lewis dated July, 1720 for Land adjacent Ralph Outlaw “a place settled and built upon by one Thomas Rode on Catewhiske Swamp commonly known & called by the name Rodes folly…” recorded in Bertie Deed Book F, Page 92),

Witnesses are Thomas Jones, Peter Peircy. May Court 1740.

PAUL PENDER deed to THOMAS SPARKMAN of Chowan Co. 18 Oct. 1754, £26 plus £4 “in credit paid in goods at Virginia store” for 350 acres on Wiccacon Creek at Horse Swamp adj. ISAAC LEWIS, LAZARUS THOMAS and WILLIAM WARREN, part of 1 Mar. 1721 patent to JOHN EARLY JR.  JOHN BRICKELL and JAMES COFFIELD, witness.  Entered Nov. Ct. 1754.  Deed Book H, pg. 130

THOMAS SPARKMAN of Chowan Co. deed to JAMES SPARKMAN of Bertie 16 Apr. 1759; £18 proclamation for 175 acres adjacent Wiccacon Creek, Horse Swamp, ISAAC LEWIS, Deep Branch, part of 1 Mar. 1721 patent to JOHN EARLY JR.  THOMAS HARRELL and JOHN (x) BROWN, witness.  Entered Apr. Ct. 1759.  Deed Book I, pg. 190 (118).

Is there a connection with the Anthony Lewis who pops up around many of these Brownes and, interestingly, Daniel McDaniel:

From Colonial Bertie County, North Carolina, Deed Books A-H, 1720-1757, by Mary Best Bell, page 57:

Deed Book C, page 57, 13 Aug. 1728. Daniel MacDaniel (McDaniel) to Anthony Lewis of Isle of Wight Co., VA, £24 for 410 acres on Beaverdam Swamp at Spring Branch, adjoining John Crosbey (Crosby), Thoms ___inson. Tract granted by patent on 9 March 1717. Witnesses: LEONARD LANGSTON, John Nairrur. August Court 1728. Edw. Mashborne, D.C/C.

A caution… I’ve damn near lost my mind researching that Anthony Lewis…. and yes, there is a Bridgett involved…

http://www.videoranch.net/burgess.htm

“In the Name of God Amen the 18th day of aprill 1679 I JOYCE CRIPPS the wife of GEORGE CRIPPS…”

“It is my will that that Orphant boy that now liveth with me by name of ANTHONY LEWIS do live with my husband Untill he attains to the age of One and Twenty Years if my husband and he shall live So long that my husband give him two Suites of Apparell Three Barrells of COrne One heifer with Calve One Couch bed a SMall Iron POtt One PEwter dish One Tray and One Spoone if it shall Soe happen my husabnd should die beofre the boy doth attain e to the age of One and Twenty Yeares that it is my will that the aboved named things shall bee delivered to the s’d ANTHONY LEWIS.”

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http://www.nonawilliams.com/names/braswell/burgess_susanna.htm

Octob.r 1694

Upon the petn of BRIDGET LEWIS, she has order ag.st JN. COLLINS sen.r for 500.lb of tobo: for the care & pains taken by the sd LEWIS in the cure of the sd COLLINS his wife with Costs ats Ex.o

you were warned…

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As an aside (I realize how complex all of this stuff is… believe me!)   I have another Page which discusses William Browne and William BOON… but more importantly it shows some maps which detail WHERE these folks were in modern Southampton Virginia early 1700s… Brownes, Boons and Anthony Lewis were on top of each other at that time.

http://andersonnc.wordpress.com/mathew-strickland-thomas-boon-iow/

Boon_1704

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Will – Anthony Lewis

Leg.- sons Thomas and Anthony my land on the Blackwater; wife Elizabeth.  Exs, my wife and two sons.

D. Sept. 30, 1717.   R. July 23, 1739

Wit. Elias Ballard, William Butler, Mary Butler, John Butler     p. 236, IOW, Great Book, Chapman

Anthony Lewis.  Appraised by Samuel Browne, Richard Price, Lewis Bryan   R. Sept 24, 1739  p.240, Chapman

I’m thinking Anthony Lewis Sr stays in the area of IOW (Southampton)… possibly on his “Anthonys Delight” property.  He made a foray about 1720 to the area next to Thomas Browne’s place near Potacasi Creek and seems to have helped arrange for his son to obtain a patent:

#1873 (?1721 no date given) Anthony LEWIS Sr. 640a on S side Menherring

River, adj Robert Paterson, Spring branch, Beaver Dam swamp, John Smith.

#1875 no date) Anthony LEWIS Jr. 640a on S. side Menherring River,

joining Robert Patterson & Anthony Lewis Sr.

Remember that the Anthonys Delight property is adjacent to William Browne’s land in IOW (1702). 

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I speculate that John Browne (Indian Trader) had children:

John Browne m. Mary _____ (I am baffled by this guy)

William Browne m. Martha Braswell

Thomas Browne m. Christian (Howell?)

Elizabeth Browne m. John Joyner (son of Bridgeman Joyner)

Bertie Co., NC, DB-F, p. 344…  Soloman Joyner of Edgecombe Co., & John Joyner & wife Elizabeth of Isle of Wight Co, Va. to Joseph Witherington of Surry Co, Va. Feb 7, 1741. 25 pds, for 256 A.  A Patent granted John Brown for 256 A. July 28, 1713 on “Bank of the River” adj. James Curlee, John Smyth  Wit: James Washington, Henry Crafford, Morning Crafford, John Sherard, William Plyant, John Fort (FOORT).  May Court 1742.  Thomas Crew C/C.(sons of John Joyner above)

The brother of John Joyner (another son of Bridgeman Joyner) had property next to William Browne near “Anthony’s Delight” in modern Southampton County, VA.:

Virginia Patents 10-423, dated 11 July 1719 IOW: Nathan Joyner–225 acres south side of the Main Blackwater Swamp. Beg & c on the East side of a branch called Anthony?s Delight.

IOW Great Book Vol. 2-511, dated 25 January 1722: Nathan Joyner of Albemarle County in North Carolina to Arthur Williams of Isle of Wight…..225 acres on the south side of Blackwater Swamp adjoining Anthony?s Delight Branch and Anthony Lewis (being a patent granted said Joyner on 11 July 1719. Signed Nathan (x) Joyner Wit: John Drake, Thomas Williams and William (x) Arinton.

From the above we can gather that Nathan Joyner left IOW between 1719 and 1722. We can also place a birth date before 1698 if he was at least 21 when he patent the land.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=sharpefamily&id=I3329

(Why do I think that you ask?… because Thomas acquires a patent within a few miles SE from John’s land in 1700.  William Brown aquires a patent in 1702 just across the Blackwater River a few miles to the west of John Browne’s Kingsale holdings.  William sells part of his land to Thomas in 1703.  Another chunk of this land is sold to Richard Braswell who conveniently has a sister named Martha.  The speculative son John could explain the second John above who acts as his attorney.)

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adding more fuel to the fire of this already complex compilation… this refers to Elizabeth Browne: ( from my BOON Page)

The wife of the early William Boon seems to be a sister of William Browne… per this will:

Will of William Brown 15 Dec 1718 – recorded 21 July 1719 [SS 341 p 84 NC wills]

In the name of God Amen, this 15th day of December in the year of our Lord God 1718 – I William Brown in ye county of Albermarle in ye province of North Carolina, am sick and week . . .

I bequeath to my Lawful wife my bed and furniture and my horse Tobe and a horse Cate.

I bequeath to my eldest son John ye Manner Plantation and one hundred and fifty acres of land;

to my son Thomas one hundred and fifty acres of land joyning to his brother John;

to my son Jacob one hundred and fifty acres of land up Cyprus gritt joying upon his brother Thomas;

to my daughter Ann one hundred and fifty acres of land lying upon the head of her brother John;

to John Carver fifty acres of land and ye place which his father was kild lying between two branches;

to my daughter Martha one hundred and fifty acres of land joining upon Carver;

to my daughter Mary one hundred and fifty acres of land between Martha and ye head line;

to my daughter Sarah one hundred and fifty acres of land and ye southmost fork.

The remaining part of ye land I leave holy and truly to my sonnes disposing. My hold desire is for my wife to have ye remaining part of my estate to be equally divided between her and my seven children excepting one hundred acres of land to William Boon a brother.

I do make and desire choice of Thomas Manders and my wife as executors. All children under age.

Wits: Thomas Manders [Mandue], Thomas Smith, Martha Brown.

William Browne married Martha Brasswell, daughter of Richard Bracewell d.1725 in IOW.  (She remarried to William Murphy) Since no daughter Elizabeth is mentioned in his will, I assume she was a sister to Browne. Another Bracewell daughter was Anne who married Mathew Strickland Jr.  These relationships can be seen in the various land deals.

(Also consider the obvious… William Browne and his brother Thomas Browne die 1718 and 1719… if their sister Elizabeth Browne married William Boon then she would be of that generation and age… even if a bit younger she would be up to dying also about this time… 1720s -1730s?)

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However… (and now you catch me having an argument with myself)… I have gone to great pains in another Page on William Browne being the son of John Browne (Indian Trader of Nansemond).  In that compilation I arrived at the conclusion that a sister of William Browne was Elizabeth who married John Joyner.  This brings up numerous questions… 1. am I correct in both cases?  2. was she a younger half-sister by another mother?  …. bottom line- I have the same woman married to William Boon and also John Joyner.

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*The map below is high resolution… be patient to load… then click to load in another page (then click again to enlarge).

 map_John Browne

Brown_T_headrights 1700

Rogers_John1700

This is an aside… a bit of a smoking gun if you will, to associate these Browne’s (the Indian Trader and Thomas Browne) with John Rogers. Th Browne and John Rogers move to Potocasi Creek in North Carolina very near each other…

IOW Great Book, vol 2, Hopkins, p 140

(p.500)  24 Nov 1722…. John Rogers, Jr., Yeoman, and wife, Bridgett Rogers, of North Carolina to James Councill, Yeoman, of the lower parish of Isle of Wight….  100 acres in the lower parish adjoining William Daughter, Jr., Hodges Council, Daniell Davis and Abraham Rixs (Ricks) (being land formerly in the possession of Richard Booth who devised it to Mary Rogers the Mother of the said John Rogers, Jr. in a deed dated 8 Nov 1681…. mention of “John Rogers, Jr. and his father John Rogers, Sr.).

Wit.  Robert Lawrence, Richard (X) Beale and James Holland.

Rec: 26 Nov 1722                           John (X) Rogers, Jr.

Bridgett Rogers

Remember that Richard Booth and John Browne Sr were associates (Traders) in the early days…

And as I can’t pass up any sort of scandal or dirty laundry… it seems the Rogers boys may have left Surry County to avoid the heat… one was a Trader…

Per the dutiful Sub Sheriff, William Sherwood, and Recorded 6, May, 1671, charges were laid:  “Contrary to Act of Assembly, 10 Oct. 1665, Joseph Rogers, tanner, entertained & harbored Indians in his house w/o license in 1670-1.”  The penalty at the time was “Fine 1,000 or 4,000 lbs. tobo. or 1 yr. Imprisonment for offenders.”

BUSTED!  Remember this is 1671…in 5 years Bacon’s Rebellion would occur which was basically a war with the Indians (and of course the castletrash government) … where Jos Rogers was living was pretty much frontier and no one had settled across the Blackwater (other than Traders).

John Rogers (son of the immigrant or the old man?) had a bit too much fun during Bacon’s Rebellion, 1676… “Mr. Robert Caufield and Mr. Arthur Allen charged certain inidividuals named John Rutherford, John Rogers, Robert Burges, John Clements and John Ironmonger for destroying certain livestock and household items during the ‘most Horrid Rebellion.'”

William Rogers & Joshua Proctor were mentioned in 1685… up to no good obviously (just kidding, I made that up).

source:

http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/jame1/moretti-langholtz/chap10a.htm

The immigrant John Rogers appears to be an old man by 1674.  So I’m seriously curious if he or his son married the sister of Richard Booth.

“Surry Bk 3 pg 59–7 Jul 1674–John Rodgers, being an old impotent man upon his petition is discharged from paying public levys”

Surry County in this time period… Blackwater River/ Cypress Swamp

map_Rogers_Surry

Between the difficulties of enjoying a good pork sandwich and having to deal with an SOB like John Dunn its no wonder the Rogers left Surry County…

Bk 3 pg 365–7 Mar 1681–“Wm Wray and Black Dick, servants to Thomas Jordin, having killed and taken a hogg of John Rogers Sr and the said Rogers appearing at this court praying judgment against them according to ye Act made in ye year 1665 and the Fact having been proved before Lt Col Wm Brown and now confess in court the said Rogers his petition is granted and ordered that the said servants, be punished accordingly, but the said Wray proposing to endeavour to pay his fine, his punishment with the consent of the sd Rogers is referred to the next Court… Black Dick is to be given 20 lashes on the back”

Bk 3 pg 386–5 Jul 1682–William Simmins accused John Rogers Sr for stealing and killing 3 hogs. Judgement for Simmons and Rogers fined 6000 pounds tobacco and caske and court costs

Bk 4 pg 410–3 Jul 1683–Attachment is granted John Rogers against the estate of Jeremiah Ellis for what he shall make appeare due at the next Court with Costs ut in als.

Bk 4 pg 467–6 Jan 1684–“John Dunn and Hester, the wife of John Rogers, Jr having been presented by the Church Wardens of Southwarke Parish for being suspected to live in Adultry, it is therefore ordered that the Sheriffe summon the said Jno Dunn, John Rogers Jr and Hester, his wife, to appeare at the next Cort to answere the said complaints, and Robert Nichollson to testifye his knowledge against the said suspected persons”

Bk 4 pg 821–4 Mar 1689–John Rogers, for not planting corn is fined according to law

That fine probably broke the camel’s back…  smiling…

By 1700 they were comfortably in Nansemond County and my tale continues…       

map_Rogers_NC

What happened to Hester?   

1737 – June 25, from JOHN DUNN of the Lower Parish of IW, with the consent of EASTER, his wife, to MOSES DAUGHTRY of same, for 70 barrells of merchantable tar and 30 shillings in cash, one certain messuage tract of land in the Lower Parish of IW at a place called the Bever Dam Swamp and Kingsale, and bounded by the east side of Kingsail (Kinsale) Swamp at the mouth of the Bever Dam Swamp, containing 100 acres of land where the plantation now is., it being a part of a patent granted to MATTHEW STRICKLAND for 900 acres.   Signed – JOHN DUNN, ESTHER (her mark) DUNN. Wit – WILLIAM (W) DAUGHTRY, WILLIAM (F) FOWLER, ELY ELY. EASTER, wife of the said JOHN DUNN, relinquished her right of dower to the lands conveyed. Recorded June 27, 1737 (page 118, IOW Deed Book 5)

side note… The tiny little factoid of a court case involving one Daniel McDaniel in Surry County about this time involved a “Rogers” and a “Jordan”… if such is the case then that could be the guy who winds up marrying the daughter of Thomas Brown… could be he even came down with the Rogers about this time???

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Back to the Browne boys…

Patent-William Browne IOW 1702

Lib of Va.  Deed Bk 9, pg 471

To all &tc Whereas &tc Now know yee… Francis Nicholson…give & grant unto William Browne  [156 acres] in the County of Isle of Wight on the South side of the main blackwater beginning at a point of land where a Pocoson & a branch called Anthony’s Delight meets & soe runing up the various Courses of ye sd Pocoson to a red OOake marked at the mouth of a small branch & thence North [34] degrees E 78 pole to a Hiccory thence S 55 deg E 129 pole to a Hiccory thence S 3 deg E 40 pole to a white Oake at the head of the aforesaid branch & soe down the aforesd branch to ye beginning… transportation of four persons… 28th Day of October 1702

Nicholas Smith

Robert W*ld

Anne *ru*kney

abstract: Marc Anderson 2010

http://www.braswell-genealogy.com/Land%20Records/VA-Land%20Records/1703-9%20Oct.htm

[1703-9 Oct] William Brown sells land to Richard Bracewell, Jr.

To all People to whom these presents shall Come be it known that I WILLIAM BROWN & my wife of the Lower Parish of the Isle of Wight County . . . by a certeyn sume of money . . . in hand . . . for us our heirs Exrs Admrs or Asns forever, doe hereby . . . bargain, aleinate make over sell & deliver all our hole right, Tytle & interest of a parcell of Land as followeth to RICHARD BRACEWELL JURr, to him his heirs Exrs Admrs Asns forever, It being part of a pattent of one hundred fifty six Acres of Land granted unto WILLIAM BROWNE bearing date ye 28th day of Octobr in the year of 1702 It being on the South Side of ye Maine Blackwater in the County & Parish aforesd, wherefore I the sd Wm BROWNE me my heirs Exrs Admrs or Asns doe warnt the Sale of Thirty five acres of Land, more or less wth the aforsd pattent to RICHARD BRACEWELL aforesd, to him his heirs Exrs Admrs or Asn lyeing & begining att the mouth of ye aforesd Wm BROWNES Spring Branch, runing up the northwest side of the aforesd Spring Branch, to a Red Oak marked wth two notches, and thence to a small White Oak Sapling, thence to a pine marked wth three notches att the aforesd Wm BROWNs Side Lyne, all ye Land on the Northwest Side of his aforesd Bounds to the foresd RICHARD BRACEWELL TO have & hould to him, his heirs Exrs Admrs & Asns wth all privlidges & appurtenances & . . . . thereunto belonging . . . . . this 9th day of Octbr 1703

THOMAS MANDEW WILLIAM BROWNE (seal)

Wm W Bracewell (mark) MARTHA BROWN (mark & seal)

DEED BOOK 1, 1688-1704, PAGE 401

Immediately following the above instrument (pp. 401-402):

WILLIAM and MARTHA BROWN to THOMAS BROWN of Nansemond County, for “a certeyn sume”, 50 acres of the same patent of 156 acres to WILLIAM BROWN that is mentioned above, this tract to begin “at the mouth of a Branch called ANTHONYS GOLIGHT Branch . . . to a Red Oak Saplin a corner tree standing on ye side of a pocoson, called ANTHONYS GOLIGHT corner tree standing on ye side of a pocoson, called ANTHONY GOLIGHT Pocoson . . . “

Signed October 22, 1703 and witnessed by RICHARD EXUM and ROBERT GUILS (?).

IOW Deed Bk 1, 1688-1704, Hopkins

(p.169)   23 Jul 169-[5]    Elizabeth Booth, wife of Richard Booth of Blackwater, appoints Jeremiah Exum as her attorney to acknowledge a Deed of Sale.

Wit: William Browne and John Rogawes.

Elizabeth (X) Booth

NOTE:  Richard Booth and wife, Elizabeth Booth, to Isaac Reakes…. 265 acres (“I now live upon” and being a patent dated 23 Apr 1687).

Wit: Joseph Meredeth and Henry Pope

Richard (X) Booth

Elizabeth (X) Booth

(p.309)  9 Jun 1697…. Richard Reynolds of Isle of Wight County to William Butler of Nansemond County…. 220 acres in Nansemond County on Cabbin Branch.

Wit: John Council, William Browne and Robert Bryuer.

Richard Reynolds

Joyce (X) Reynolds

Rec: 9 Jun 1697

(p.313)   4 May 1700…. Jesper Elixon, Sailor, appoints Peter Deberry as his attorney.

Wit: William Browne and Phillip (X) Brantly

Jesper (X) Elixon

Rec: 10 Jun 1700

(p.324)   30 Dec 1700….  Thomas Carter and wife, Magdlen Carter, of the upper parish to their son George Carter for Love and Affection…. 200 acres (being part of 400 acres which was given to Magdlen Carter by deed dated 11 Aug 1673 by her father George Moore of the upper parish in consideration of her marriage to Thomas Carter). The land is part of 1400 acres which was granted to said Moore on 12 May 1669 and is bounded by Red Root Point Branch and the Beaver Dam Branch.

Wit: William Browne and S— Griffen

Thomas Carter

Magdalen (X) Carter

(p.60) 11 Apr 1693… NOTE: Thomas Brown, aged 34, deposed (no  further info)

born:  1659    (this is by supposition for the age of Thomas… and by inference his likely brother William)

Court 9 October 1694….

Richard Stone is appointed Constable instead of William Browne  (Not sure where Richard Stone lived… this may be another Wm Browne?)

(p.400)  9 Oct 1703…. William Browne and wife, Martha Browne, of the lower parish to Richard Braswell, Jr…. 32 acres (being part of 156 acre granted to William Browne on 6 Oct 1702) on the south side of main Blackwater.

Wit: Thomas Mandeu and William (X) Bracewell

William Browne

Martha (X) Browne

Rec: 9 Oct 1703

(p.401)—-….William Browne and wife Martha Browne of Isle of Wight County to Thomas Browne of Nansemond County…. 50 acres (being part of a patent for 156 acres granted said Browne on 8 Oct 1702) on the south side of the main Blackwater Swamp adjoining Anthony Golight Branch.

Wit: Richard Exum and Robert (X) Simes

William Browne

Marthey (X) Brown

Rec: 9 Oct 1703

Deed Book 2  1704-1715

(p.1)  9 Aug 1704….  Richard Reynolds and Christopher Reynolds to Benjamin Beal….  267 1/2 acres (being part of a patent granted Richard Staples) adjoining Daniel Holloway and the Western Branch.

Wit: Richard Reynolds, Jr., William Browne and Andrew Woodley.

Richard Reynolds

Christopher Reynolds

Rec: 9 Aug 1704   (I’m not sure that this Wm. Browne is not the Browne from Surry County???  coin toss?)

(p.69)  10 Mar 1706…. Richard Bracewell, Jr. and wife, Eleanor Bracewell, of the lower parish to William Browne….  35 acres of 156 acres (being a patent granted William Browne on 23 Oct 1702) on the south side of the main Blackwater.

Wit: Robert West and Thomas Mandue.

Richard (X) Bracewell

Eleanor (X) Bracewell

Rec: 10 Mar 1706   (This would appear to be the brother of Martha, wife of William Browne)

 

(p. 155)   9 Feb 1710…. Thomas Brown and wife, Christian Brown, to Henry Applewhaite…. 50 acres (being part of a tract of 120(?) acres granted William Brown on 28 Oct 1702) on the south side of the main Blackwater and bounded by Anthony Seolightly (Golightly?).

Wit: Arthur Smith, Robert Scott, Richard Williams, William (X) Welch and William Furechoulk (?).

Thomas (X) Brown

Christian (X) Brown

Rec: 9 )ct 1710

Great Book Vol 2  1715-1726

(p.8)  23 Jun 1715…. Nathaniel Harrison, Esq., William Robertson, Etheldred Taylor and Nathaniel Ridley, Gents., on behalf of the will of Joseph John Jackman, decd., to Thomas Skelton of Surry County…. 60 acres (being the land in the deed of Edmund Briggs to Joseph John Jackman).

Wit: Arthur Holladay, Arthur Smith, John Lear, William Bridger, Mat Boush, Thomas Browne, John Watts and Richard Giles.

Rec: 26 Sep 1715

(p.29)  20 Oct 1716…. William Brown, Yeoman, and wife, Martha Brown, of Chowan Parish in Albemarle County in North Carolina to Anthony Lewis, Sr., Yeoman, of the lower parish of Isle of Wight… 366 acres in two surveys (being all of two patents except 50 acres) in the lower parish on the south side of the main Blackwater at a Branch called “Anthonys Delight”.  106 acres was granted to said William Brown on 28 Oct 1702 and 260 acres was granted him on 16 Jun 1714.  50 acres has already been sold by said Brown to Henry Applewhaite.

Wit: William (X) Hukman and Thomas (X) Lush.

William Brown

Rec: 22 Oct 1716

map_Brown1718

A commenter (Rogers Smith) is intrigued with the Hill’s Ferry road running thru the Thomas Brown property (on the Collet Map)… I don’t think it was there in 1718 when Thomas died.  However, there is likelihood there was an “Indian Path”.  Note the term “inden parth” in Thomas Brown’s will… the old boy left some great clues to strategically locate his property…

Will of Thomas Brown 1718

April 1718… Albermar County… sick & weak

… to Christian… my wife… plantation whereon I now live beginning at the corner tree above the inden parth so running down the Line to potocati Creeke and so including six hunderd ackers of Land and Like wise six hunderd ackers of Litwood Land for the use of the sd plantation and for the maintanance of his children beginning? at Thomas Conners corner tree and Line and so running to bells branch and so up ye sd…

—-fold—- illegible

… wife c all my moveabel estate within and withoute untell hirr children come of age or marries then if can be spend_______? to have to cowes and calfs a peace Except my son Thomas brown when he is of age or maners? marries? the to him three cowes and calfs if they can be spard

and my dafter Sarah mackdaniel I give unto her twenty shilings

and every one of my children _______? or ______? as they come of age if (any?)(they?) can be spend

… unto son Thomas… to hunderd eakers and twenty eakers of land being and lying upon potacati Creeke

… son William the half of the upper sirveys beginning at the ____? tree swamp

… son Thomas… other half of ye sd sirveye

… son John and Edward Brown my Land that Lies on ye South side of meharin Creeke and (land that is left of the Land that I sould to George Stevins)

… son Howell and James… the sd plantation and all the land belonging after my wifes deses…

Thomas (X) Brown

Judeth (X) Perry

Thomas (X) Perry

abstract by Marc Anderson 2013

More details here:

http://andersonnc.wordpress.com/daniel-mcdaniel/

Here is an account of Howell Brown… and possibly the account where the “myth” started that Christian Brown was a “Maule”…

Brown_Gen notes

I’m thinking that the above researcher’s first inclination was that Thomas Brown may have married a “Howell”… that would support a naming pattern theory… since Thomas first acquired land in Nansemond around 1700,  a search of Howell neighbors may turn up a daughter named Christian.

Bear with me… this is circumstantial but it may also be a smoking gun proof. Gideon Gibson marries the daughter of William Brown.  A William Howell has property very near Thomas Brown in Nansemond in 1700…  I propose this is that William Howell (who, coincidentally is another Baconian “rebel”… could these men have felt a little pressure to leave Surry County?).

HOWELL       http://www.historical-melungeons.com/gibsontl.html

10th of June 1668 A List of ye Tythables from ye Colledge to Smiths forte

taken up by Mr. Thos Warren

Tho.  Hurle Joh. Shipp Tho Gibson & 1 negro,                 04

Geo. Foster & Tho. Williams,                                                 02

Tho. North,                                                                                  01

John Clemens,                                                                            01

Edmond Howell,                                                                        01

[Note:  Thomas Gibson is father of Gibson Gibson and therefore husband of Elizabeth Chavis- Edmond Howell is godfather of Gibson Gibson--See 23 Dec. 1679 & 28 March 1672]

1676 List of the Names and some of the Residences of the Rebel Participants in Bacon’s Rebellion of 1676 in Colonial Virginia

Baker, Henry – Surry – Southwark Parish – owned 350 acreees in 1684 – wife and ten kids in 1697 – owned 350 acre in Essex and 375 acres in Nansemond in 1704

Howell, Edmund – Surry – Southwark Parish

Gibson  Thomas – Surry – Southwark Parish

23 Dec. 1679 -Edmund Howell:

To my only son, William Howell my whole estate with some exceptions. to my godson Gibson, son of Thomas Gibson To godson Henry Baker. Makes George Foster Exec. and gives him the care of son until he is 21 years old, If son die, his inheritance to Henry Baker, George Foster Thomas Ironmonger his children.

Wit: Thos Pittan, Sr., John Moring.

Prob. 9 Oct. 1679.(2:240)

Gideon1 Gibson, born say 1695, settled near the Roanoke River in North Carolina about 1720. He purchased 200 acres in what was then Chowan County on the south side of the Roanoke River on 24 July 1721 [DB C-1:142]. He acquired over one thousand acres of land in present-day Halifax County, North Carolina, and on the north side of the Roanoke River in Northampton County. He married Mary Brown sometime before 22 October 1728 when they sold 150 acres “bounded according to the Will of William Brown Gentl decd…” [Bertie DB C:36]. She was under the age of eighteen when her father made his 15 December 1718 Chowan County will, proved July 1719, by which he gave her and each of her six siblings 150 acres [N.C. Archives File SS 841]. Gideon, or (his uncle?) Gibby Gibson, must have impressed the other prosperous free African Americans in that area of North Carolina because three of them named their children after him: Gideon/Gibby Chavis, Gideon/ Gibby Bunch, and Gibson Cumbo. Many of the well-to-do Gibson and Bunchfamilies married whites and were considered white after a few generations.

http://www.freeafricanamericans.com/Gibson_Gowen.htm

Map_Howell

I can’t find that anyone has tracked this William Howell.  In the absence of any further finds of documentation, this map may be the only clues… if that is the case then several observations can be made.  He first patent is in 1685 so he is age appropriate to be the son of Edmund Howell’s will of Surry County.  Note the later patent of 1745- either he lived to a grand old age or he likely had a son… which makes me think he probably lived and died in Nansemond.  I don’t have the will abstracts for Isle of Wight… perhaps it is there (I doubt it)… otherwise it is lost with the burned records of Nansemond.  All of which leaves me scratching my head with this dilemma… I don’t know where to look for any records for this guy “if he stayed in this one place all his life”.

Note also the Henry Baker who may have been the same as mentioned as a rebel with Edmund Howell… (have you noticed that almost all these guys in Isle of Wight and Nansemond were rebels?)

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C 319   JACOB BROWN to BARNABE MACKINNE, JUN.   March 28, 1730. 40 pds. for 100 A.  “…land…to me by last will and testament of my father WILLIAM BROWN which land since my father’s decease for want of patent hath been surveyed for my Eldest brother JOHN BROWN…by date March 13, 1721….” Cont. 525 A. On SS Morattock River “whereon my father did live and then dye….”  Adj. RICHARD JACKSON, BARNABE MACKINNE, ____ STRICKLAND.  Wit: BARNABE MACKINNE, jurat, MARY MACKINNE

BROWN, WILLIAM.  Chowan Precinct

December 15, 1718. July 21, 1719. Sons: JOHN (“ye manner plantation”), THOMAS (150 acres of land), JACOB (150 acres of land). Daughters: ANN, MARTHA, MARY, SARAH (each 150 acres of land). Executors: THOMAS MONDERS [Mandue]. Witnesses: THOMAS MONDERS, THOMAS SMITH, MARTHA BROWN. Clerk of the Court: R. HICKS. Wife of testator mentioned, but not named.

The son John mentioned above seems to be this guy…

 

On Aug. 6, 1726,

Richard Jackson to Barnabe Mackinnie, Jr, 160 pds for 100 acres, part of a

tract formerly granted to John Brown for 525 acres on March 3, 1721. 

Transferred to Jackson by Brown and Wife Mary. On SS Marattuck River

adjoining William Strickland , Joseph Joiner & Spring Branch. Wit: Barn.

Mackinne, Jurant, John Mackinne. Bertie County, Aug. 6, 1726, Deed Book B,

Page 165. (August Court 1726)

He appears to be a bit of a polygamist…

Minutes of the General Court of North Carolina
North Carolina. General Court
July 28, 1727 – August 02, 1727

A presentment against John Brown for having left his Wife the daughter of Barnaby Mackennie and cohabits with another which he acknowledges to be his lawfull Wife both of the Sayd Women within this Government.

The presentment of the grand Jury against John Brown was read in these words Vizt

Wee of the Grand Jury do present John Brown of Bertie precinct alias Bath Severall amongst us Say that they know him to have left his Wife the daughter of Barnaby Mackinne & cohabits with another which he acknowledges to be his lawfull Wife both of the Sayd Women Within this Government

Endorsed
THOs PARRIS Foreman.

source: http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr02-0308#p2-705

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Widow of William Browne marries William Murphey…

Chowan #456 pg. 38 WILLIAM MURPHEY of Chowan Prect and MARTHA my wife to
Barnaby Mackinney of Albermarle Co. 640 acres at the mouth of Great Branch
called the Cypress Gutt which cometh out of the River (Moratock) joining
the plantation Arthur Davis did live on, being a parcel of land in Calledony
wood formerly granted to WILLIAM BROWNE by Patent 1 Apr. 1713 being the
tract whereon the sd. Browne did live and is the land given by the will of
WILLIAM BROWNE to his wife MARTHA and I WILLIAM MURPHEY married the Relict
of WILLIAM BROWNE. Wit: William Lattimer, John Alston.

Chowan #461 pg. 58 WILLIAM BROWNE of Chowan Prect. to Arthur Davis 13 July
1718, 640 acres on the south side of Moratock River. Wit: John Dew, William
Crawford. MARTHA MURPHEY formerly MARTHA BROWNE came into Court and
acknowledged her right of Dower in the Above mentioned land formerly sold by
her former husband WILLIAM BROWNE to Arthur Davis. Reg. Chowan Ct. July 1720

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William Browne’s property (where he died 1719)…

William Browne property (Oconeechee Neck)  notes…

Edge. Co. (Halifax) Db 6, page 169, deed date 21 Feb 1757, recorded
May Ct 1757, Joseph Lane, Edge. Co to Blake Baker, county aforesaid for
570 pds Va, a tract beginning at a maple William Brown's corner tree on
the river bank of Roanoke or William Jones then along his line south 15
east 260 poles to the center of a red oak and two hickories then south
60 west 120 poles to the center of three hickories then south 45 east
90 poles to a locust post then north 60 east 160 poles to a locust post
then north 15 east to a sycamore tree on Moratock River then up the
river to the first station, containing 200 acres which land was
patented by William Wall and by deed of sale bearing date (10) Feb 1725
conveyed to ( ? ) Barnaby McKinne from the said Wm Wall and devised to
(Mr Richd McKinne now deceased by the last will and testament of the
said Barnaby McKinne and if said Richd McKinne should die without issue
the said land should be equally divided between Patience Land and
Mourning Pope who died without issue and the said land has since been
allotted for the part of share of the heirs of the aforesaid Patience
Land and from John Lane who was heir to the said Patience conveyed to
the said Joseph Land by a deed of sale relation being (      ), signed
Joseph Lane (mark), wit Will Hurst, (John Crary), Batt Persin.
Abstracted 5-03-06, NCA film C.047.40002, CTC.

William Murphy of Chowan Precinct and Martha My wife to Barnaby MacKinne of Albemarle Co. ...this __ July, 1720
 ...L5 current money of England...640 acres more or less at the mouth of a Great Branch called the Cypress Gutt
 which cometh out of the River (Moratock) joining the plantation Arthur Davis did live on...being a parcel of land
 in Calledony Wood formerly granted to William Browne by patent 1 APR 1713 being the tract whereon the said Browne
 did live and is the land given by will of William Browne to his wife Martha and I, William Murphey married the relict
 of William Browne. Wit: William Lattimer, John Alston. Reg. Chowan Ct. the 3rd Tuesday in July, 1720.

 Nathaniel Holley of Chowan Precinct, and Jane my wife to Barnaby MacKinny of Chowan precinct...this __ July 1720.
 L30 current money of England...615 acres in Calli- dony Woods on the south side of Moratock River, joining William Maule,
 William Browne and a pond as by patent to said Holley 1 MAR 1719. Wit: William Murphey, David Mc- Kine. Reg. Chowan Court,
 3rd Tuesday in July, 1720. 

Arthur Davis of Chowan Precinct and Mary his wife to Barnaby MacKinne of Chowan Precinct...this __ July 1720.
 L45 current money of England...640 acres in Calledony Woods on the south side of the Moratock River and run- 
ning the courses of the patent and is the land conveyed to the said Davis (13 July 1718) and was a grant to
 William Browne 1 APR 1713. Wit: William Lattimore, John Alston. Reg. Chowan Court 3rd Tuesday in July 1720.

A bit more on Caledonia... William Maule evidently had property next to William Browne...

http://ncpedia.org/caledonia

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 My hunch is this is a son of Thomas d.1718 since the guy below names a widow “Jane”.

Per Thomas Brown’s will of 1718 he has sons Thomas and John… this appears to be those sons…

Ibid A-127 Thomas BROWN and wife Jane to James DENTON 11 May 1723 12 pds 240
ac on north side Pattacasie Br of Meherrin Cr. pat 30 Aug 1714. Wit. Robert
BRASSWELL, John BROWN.

Brown_T_1739estate

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Some misc. notes on Thomas Brown:  Found on Familysearch.org site under USA> Virginia

Images start at 342 and go to image 385…  This seems to be notes gathered about 1944…  it attempts to trace Howel Brown, son of Thomas and other descendants.  The research points to some Browns relocating to Jones County, NC and then eventually on to Georgia.

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Some misc Brown(e)s….  I’m always looking for clues… these guys were near the Meherrin Indian stomping grounds near the mouth of the Meherrin River and Chowan River (roughly)… say around 1712 or so…

one William Brown was near the Roanoke River prior to 1712… (who I theorize was a son of the Indian Trader of the 1707 deposition)

“Read the Petition of William Grey shewing that William Browne in the year 1712 obtained a patent for 600 Acres of Land lying on Moratock which is Lapsed for want of seating and planting as the Lawe directing praying a Lapse patent may be granted to him for the same”

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr02-0199

This is not to say that he did not have other property elsewhere.. but he does not seem to have a son named “Beale”… see below..

The Indian Trader John Browne “may” have been married first to a woman named Mary… he seems to have married later to a woman named Bridgett.  I speculate that he may have also had a son John….(was he married to Mary?)  perhaps the confusing notes below involve him? I don’t know?   This is still “a pile of spaghetti” as a commenter stated.

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RICKS, Benjamin 

March 31,1719. November 30,1721. Brokers: James, Robert, Abraham and Isaac Ricks. Nephew: Robert Ricks, Jr. (land on Notaway River). Sister: Jane Ricks. Other legatees: Patience Ricks (niece) and William Brown, son of Beale Brown. Wife and Executrix: Sarah. Witnesses: Bridget Rogers, Mary Rogers, John Phipps. Proven before C. Eden, Governor.

(Source: Abstracts of North Carolina Wills, By: J. Bryan Grimes, Secretary of State, 1910, page 314)

Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council

North Carolina. Council

August 03, 1726 – August 26, 1726

Volume 02, Pages 639-640

………

At a Council held at the Council Chamber in Edenton the 3d day of August Anno Dom 1726

Read the Petition of the Meherron Indians Complaining against divers of the Inhabitants of this Government for molesting them in their settlements and taking up their Lands And at the same time was Read also the Petition of Beal Browne Edwd Powers in behalf of themselves and others living near the said Indians for molesting them

Ordered That the Parties on each side Do attend this Board at their Sitting in October next And that in the mean time Neither of the sd Parties give one another any Disturbance in their Settlements.

…….

August the 26 1726. This Council met again ut supra Mr Chief Justice laying before this Board a Copy of the Judgement against George Senecca an Indian for Murthering an English Woman and her Two Children in hac Verba Vizt

North Carolina—ss.

At a Special Court of Oyer and Terminer held at the Court house in Edenton on Thursday the 25th day of August An Dom 1726, A Bill of Indictment was found by the Grand Jury against George Senecca an Indian Man of Bertie Precinct for having feloniously Murthered Catherine Groom Wife of Thomas Groom of Bertie precinct aforesd planter and Two Infants Children Daughter of the said Thomas and Catherine who upon his Arraignment Pleaded Guilty and he was thereupon sentance to be hanged

Given under my hand this 26th day of August 1726

C GALE C J

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr02-0292

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Chowan Co, NC Deed Book F #1 pg 123 Edward Howcott of Chowan Prect and Tamar his wife to John Parry of the upper Parish of Nansemond in Va. 17 Apr 1721 50£ sterling money of Great Britain 250 acres on Wicacon pocosin joining the Pequosen and is the land formerely surveyed for George Gladstaine and by him assigned to William Browne and the sd. Browne dying, the sd. Land descended to his son Beale Browne and the sd. Beale assigned to the above sd. Howcott. Wit: Thomas Spires, Abraham Hill. Reg. Chowan Ct. Apr. 1721. Test: Thomas Henman, Clerk. M M Hofmann’s abstract

The John Perry mentioned above apparently relocates to the Roanoke River area of Bertie… as does the Beale Browne (at least by 1747) as noted below…

10 Feb 1724 – Bertie Ct – John Perry is on jury “to lay out the road from Mr Simon Jeffries Landing on the Roanoke to the maine branch that begins at Mr James Bryants and goes to Chesshires Landing on Maherin River where the trading Vessell comonly lye according to law and that William Bridges be and he is hereby appointed overseer of the said road for the ensuing year.” Haun abstract

#4 Bertie Co, NC Deed Book B pg 55 Edward Howcott of Chowan to John Perry of Nansemond, VA 10 Nov 1725 50£ for 640 acres – – – “my plantation in Bertie - – -” Wit: Thos. Spires, John Sutton. Nov. Ct 1725.    Bell’s abstract

Bertie Co, NC Deed Book B pg 166 Beale Brown & wife Sarah to James Howard 13 May 1726 100£ for 450 A. known by name “Little Ahoskey.” Adj. John Perry on Ahosky Marsh. By patent dated 18 Oct 1721 to William Brown; now held by his son, Beale Brown. Wit: John Dickenson, James Holland, Rd. Horsley/ August Ct. 1726. Bell’s abstract

Bertie Co, NC Deed Book B pg 169 Beale Brown & wife Sarah to James Howard 12 May 1726 5 sh. For 450 A. lease for land known as “Little Ahosky” Adj. John Perry on Ahosky Marsh. By patent dated 18 Oct 1721 to William Brown; now held by his son, Beale Brown. “- – -and paying thereof the rent of one pepper corn on the last day of the said term – – -” Wit: John Dickenson, James Holland, Rd. Horsley/ August Ct. 1726. Bell’s abstract

1747 – May 22, Robert Hilliard and wife Elizabeth of Edgecombe to

Nathaniel Edwards of same, £60, 300 acres on N side Fishing Creek,

joining Henry West, Beal Brown and the creek, part of 640 acre grant

to Henry West 17 Oct 1735. Wit Thomas Turner, Stephen Weaver, Walter

McFarlen. Recd May 1747. (Edg 81=3-84 – Daniel Website)

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I find no “Beale” noted in the will of William Brown…

BROWN, WILLIAM.  Chowan Precinct

December 15, 1718. July 21, 1719. Sons: JOHN (“ye manner plantation”), THOMAS (150 acres of land), JACOB (150 acres of land). Daughters: ANN, MARTHA, MARY, SARAH (each 150 acres of land). Executors: THOMAS MONDERS [Mandue]. Witnesses: THOMAS MONDERS, THOMAS SMITH, MARTHA BROWN. Clerk of the Court: R. HICKS. Wife of testator mentioned, but not named.

A Judith and Thomas Perry witnessed the will of Thomas Brown…

BROWN, THOMAS.  Chowan County

April 1, 1718. October 21, 1718. Sons: THOMAS, JOHN, HOWELL, JAMES. Daughter: SARAH MACDONEL. Wife: CHRISTIAN. Witnesses: JUDETH PERRY and THOMAS PERRY. Clerk of the Court: R. HICKS

Chowan Co, NC Deed Book B #1 pg 43 Chowan: Att a court held for the sd. Prect. the 21 8ber 1718 at the house of William Branch and continued to the 22nd of the same. – – -Last will and Testament of Thomas Brown is proved on the oath of Judith Perry. M M Hofmann’s abstract

Johnston Co May 1791 Will of Wm Hocut dated 1789, probated May 1791.  Names wife, Saffire, son, Wm Brown, daus Elizabeth, Marymile, and Sarah.  #14 Probate – Will Abstracts p 48.

Perry/Brown info & map…     http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Neighbors/jperry.htm

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…who is this John Brown died 1719?   same court as Thomas Browne but 8 months later… (is this another son of the Indian Trader John Browne?)

J Brown 1718

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FOUND IT!   source: NC Archives (online)   There is also a 1699 will for a John Brown but he seems clearly in Pasquatank County.

John Browne will…1718… this is witnessed by Edward Moseley per Hathaway’s abstract  AND a note on the will mentions a court date – Chowan  Oct 21, 1728 “in open court”.

Oddly that is the date when Thomas Brown’s will was entered into court.  Why this will was entered a year later I don’t know.  But this seems to be the guy…

I don’t see any connections to the Browne group I am researching and this John Browne leaves no heirs. Apparently he married a widow with son Jacob Pritchard.  The witnesses don’t ring a bell with me either… James Robertson and Eliz. Swann.

Brown_Will1718
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Concerning the Dr Samuel Brown family of IOW (Southampton) possibly being involved with the Indian Trader John Browne’s people… I don’t see any connections…

source: http://thenandchange.org/Genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I28&tree=wre-de-24mar13

Will of Samuel Browne
Isle of Wight County, Virginia
17 Oct 1739

In the name of God amen – the 17th day of October 1739 I Samuel Browne in the County of Isle of Wight being at present in Bodyley Health and perfect mind and memory thanks be to God I do make and Ordain this my last will and Testament in manner and form following:

first – I give my soul to Almighty God that gave it to me and my body I commend to the Earth to be Buried at the Discretion of my Executor and as Touching what worldly goods it hath pleased God to Endow me with I give and Devise and Bequeath in manner and form following – -

Item – I give unto my Son John Browne Twenty Shillings current money of Virginia.

Item – I give unto my grandson Josias Brown the Son of Walter Browne when he comes to years of Twenty and one, one Negro Boy called Dick about eight years old.

Item – I give unto my son Jesse Browne after my Decease the plantation whereon now I live and all the Lands of mine that lies in Virginia – Except the Lands that is given to Mary Drake and her son Jesse Drake I say unto my son Jesse Browne and his Issue Lawfully begotten of his Body not to be cut off by an Act of Assembly nor to go out of the Name of the Brownes – I likewise give my son Jesse Brown all my Books and Instruments and Medicens belonging to my practice and likewise I give my son Jesse Browne a Negro man called Will and a Negro woman called Bess.

Item – I give unto my daughter Mary Drake wife of John Drake a certain Tract of Land lying on the South side of the Beaver Dam Swamp containing five hundred acres land more or less I say unto my daughter Mary Drake and the Heirs lawfully begotten of her body forever – it beginning at the South prong of the Beaver Dam Swamp up the said Swamp to a marked tree on the head line so along the head line to the North prong of the said swamp and down the said swamp to the first station.

Item – I give unto my grandson Jesse Drake the son of John Drake and Mary Drake his wife three hundred acres of Land more or less on the South side of the Nottoway River across the neck to a marked poplar standing in a Branch so up the said Branch to the head of it from thence by a marked line to my head line and along the head line to his Mothers corner Tree in a Branch and down the various courses to the said Branch to Vassers corner tree in the Beaver Dam Swamp so down the said Vassers line to the first station in Nottoway River I say unto my grandson Jesse Drake and his heirs Lawfully begotten forever.

Item – I give unto my daughter Sarah Battel the wife of John Battel so much of my land that lies on the Indian Branch to be added to her deed adjacent to her plantation as will take half the Survey of the said Tract of Land being six hundred and forty acres likewise I leave the use of a Negro Boy called Dorsetshire to my daughter Sarah Battel during her life and after her decease I do give the said Negro boy called Dorsetshire to my grandson William Battel her son, likewise I leave a Negro woman called Violet to my daughter Sarah Battel during her life and after her decease to her son Jesse Battel I do give the said Negro woman called Violet.
(Indian Branch is still in Isle of Wight… modern Southampton)

Item – I give unto my grandson Josias Browne a negro man called Dorsetshire when he comes to the age of Twenty and one and if he dies before he comes to the above age then it is my will and desire that the above said Negro man called Dorsetshire and the aforementioned Negro Boy called Dick aged about eight years return to my Executor.

Item – I give unto my grandson Samuel Brown the son of John Brown a Negro girl called Nan.

Item – I leave the use of a Negro man called Warham unto my son John Browne during his natural life and after his decease I do give the said Negro man called Warham to my graandson Samuel Browne, his son.

Item – I give unto my granddaughter Sarah Browne the Daughter of Walter Browne a Negro girl called Cherigarllen and one feather bed and furniture when she comes to the age of Twenty and one and if she dies before she comes to the age of Twenty and one then the above said Legacies to return to my Executor.

Item – I give unto Samuel King my grandson the son of Henry King and Martha King his wife one Negro boy called London and if the said Samuel King dies before he comes to the age of Twenty and one the aforesaid Negro Boy is to return to my Executor.

Item – I give a Negro man called Hamsheire unto my grandson Samuel Nicholas Drake when he comes to the age of Twenty and one.

Item – I leave the use of a Negro Girl called Marreia unto my daughter Mary Drake the wife of John Drake during her life and after her decease I do give the said Negro girl unto Jesse Drake her son.

Item – I give unto my granddaughter Penelope Lawrence the daughter of William and Penelope Lawrence two young Negroes above Ten years and under Sixteen years old and if she dies before she comes to Twenty and one years or without Issue then the aforesaid Legacies to return to my Executor.

Item – I give unto my son Jesse Browne my plantation lying on the Indian Branch in North Carolina with one Moiety of the said Tract containing Six hundred and forty acres to him and his Heirs.

Item – I do give all the rest of my Estate both Real and Personal to my son Jesse Browne and of this my Last Will and Testament I constitute and appoint my son Jesse Browne Executor to see this my last Will and Testament fully satisfied and do hereby utterly disallow, revoke, and annul all and every other will formerely by me made or Legacies or Bequeathed by me made in anywise whatsoever before this Will or Bequeathed Ratifying and confirming this and none other to be my last Will and Testament in Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and fixed by Seal the day of the year above.

Samuel Browne (Seal)

Signed, Sealed pronounced and declared by the said Samuel Browne as his last Will and Testament in the presence of us. Test: Hardy Councill, Jr; John Gennill; John Dunkley; John Eley

Inventory of estate admitted to record June 22, 1741.

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The Will of Samuel Browne names sons John Browne, Walter Browne, Jesse Browne; daughter Mary Brown and Sarah Browne. The Will also names grandson Josias Browne, a son of Walter Browne and grandson Jesse Drake. Daughter Mary Browne was the wife of John Drake. Daughter Sarah Browne was the wife of John Battle.

Jesse Browne, Executor
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It appears that Dr Brown had a son Thomas who either died or was left out of his will…

Minutes of the North Carolina Governor’s Council

North Carolina. Council

April 04, 1722 – April 05, 1722

Volume 02, Pages 450-457

Read the Petition Thomas Brown shewing That his ffather Dr Samuel Brown obtained and has a patent for 330 Acres of Land lying in Chowan in the year 1717 but not having seated the same as the Law directs prays that he may have a Lapse patent for sd Land

Ordered that a patent Issue as prayed for

Read the Petition Samuel Brown shewing that Thomas Brown obtained a patent for 640 Acres of Land lying in Chowan in the year 1717 which is become Lapsable for want of due seating and planting the same Therefore prays that he may have a Lapse patent for the said Land

Ordered That a Patent Issue in the said Saml Browns Name as prayed for

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr02-0220#p2-453

While Dr Brown does leave a bequest of land in North Carolina, he seems to stay in Southampton. It would seem also (If he was connected to the Browne’s of NC) that some sort of bequest would be made to them. …nothing… therefore no connection that I can see. Dr Brown also acted as appraiser of the estate of Anthony Lewis which makes me think Lewis was also in Southampton, VA when he died.

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(Footnote – Full Account of the depositions of 1707 & 1710)

http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr01-0343#p1-661

Letter from the North Carolina Governor’s Council to the Virginia Governor’s Council, including depositions concerning the North Carolina/Virginia boundary

North Carolina. Council

June 17, 1707

Volume 01, Pages 657-663

[B. P. R. O. B. T. Va. 58.]

LETTER TO THE VIRGINIA COUNCIL

North Carolina June 17th 1707

Honble Gent:

We received yours containing the complaints of the Maherine Indians pretending encroachments made on them by the Inhabitants of this Government &c Upon consideration of which we thought we could not better answer yours than by sending you the true state of that matter being always as willing to give all reasonable satisfaction concerning our proceedings as Zealous to assert the undoubted Right of the Lords proprietors and her Majestys Subjects of this Governments Of a long time before the memory of man the Lands on the Southside of that River which is now called Maherine were in the Rightfull possession of the Chowanoake Indians by Virtue of a Grant from the Yawpin Indians and no other Indians (as plainly appears by successive accounts of that Nation by Original Writings and undoubted evidences) has had any Right to any Land there to this day and when first the Lords Proprietors of Carolina by Virtue of their Charter from his late Majesty King Charles the 2d took possession of this province that nation submitted themselves to the Crown of England under the Dominion of the Lords proprietors and continued peaceably till about the year 1675 about which time by incitements of the Rebelious Indians of Virginia who fled to them they committed hostility upon the Inhabitants of this Government in Violation of their Treaty Whereupon by virtue of the Authority for making peace and Warr granted to the Lords proprietors by their Charter, open war was made upon the said Indians in prosecution whereof (by Gods assistance though not without the loss of many men) they were wholly subdued and had Land for their habitation assigned them where they remained to this day so that all the tract of Land on the Southside of the Maherine River was at that Time resigned into the immediate possession of the Lords Proprietors of Carolina as of their province of Carolina and has been peaceably by them held without any Claime now thirty years during which Time the Maherine Indians removing themselves from their ancient place of habitation (where by Virtue of a Treaty with Commissioners appointed by his late Majty King Charles 2nd they were settled) placed themselves at the mouth of the Maherine River on the North side and a great part of the Tract of Land on the southside lyeing wast some of their straglers planted corne and built Cabbins on the Chowanacke old fields and continued more and more to make their Incroachments till they became an Intolerable annoyance to her Majestys subjects Commiting Repeated Injurys upon their stocks and makeing frequent affrays upon their persons as far as Moratuck River for the necessary Redressing of which growing Incroachments and preventing worse mischiefs which is daily threatened and Reasonably feared, the Government here (and which was the least that they in discharge of their duty could do) held a treaty with the Chiefs of the said Indians and instead of insisting upon satisfaction for the wrongs already done were content to make only necessary provision for the security of her Majesty’s subjects for the future. In order to which it was concluded that the stragling and vagrant Indians of that Nation should remove to their town on the North side of the River that towne they should peaceably enjoy for a certaine tribute which was as we believe the first title that ever they had to it for their treaty with the Commrs aforementioned gives them no more right to the Land whereon they now dwell than it would do to Land on the Northside Potomack or the southside of Cape Feare if they should remove themselves to either of those places: and it seems to us yet more advisable and would tend more to her Majestys service and present settlement as well of Virga as of this Province that they in force of their said treaty and for preserving of their Right to their Majesty’s protection by virtue of it should be compelled to return to the place of their former habitation, than that they should be suffered to possess the mouth of a navigable River considering how they have hitherto behaved themselves which we seriously Recommend to your Consideration noe need to Relate to you our Reasons for makeing the Maherine River the bounds who are all very well acquainted with ye Indians planting Corne without fence so that no English can seate near them without danger of trespassing by their Cattle and Horses and which ye Indians and especially that Nation are very ready to Revenge without measure, so that the Question is not between the Right of Lewis Williams and ye Maherine Nation but whether near a hundred familys of her Majty’s subjects of Carolina should be disseased of their freehold to lett a few vagrant and Insolent Indians rove where they please without any Right, and Contrary to their Agreement besides we have always thought it necessary that the Indians should live together in towns where all their young men may be under the immediate inspection of their own Governrs to prevent their private mischiefs that may be more easily done and concealed in single and separate familys Your proposition concerning further settlement We in all friendship recd. but because of the uncertainty we could not proceed to make any order or proposition in answer to it till by the Copys of the Depositions to be taken on your behalf which we hoped to receive we might have certain Information how far the Contraverted Grounds was extended to us ward we knowing no bounds to Carolina but Weyanoake River till further informed intending no further to enter into that Controversie but only to Represent the Case to the Lords Proprietors in order to their laying it before her sacred Majesty Seeing no cause to doubt of the success in so clear a Case. To this we add that Lewis Williams can’t be called any new settlement for he had Right to that Land some yeares agoe And he has been hindered settleing by those Indians who have dallyed with this Government from time to time by promise to Depart and at last being called to shew reason of their Delay they only could alledge that they had cleared some ground for which they desired satisfaction and Williams being willing to be in peaceable possession of his Land at any Rate Condisended to pay them a horse and fifteen bushells of corne which was all they at that time desired & the Greatest part tbey have received and ye Remainder has been tendered but upon their Return from Virginia they have Refused to receive the Remaining part and made a barbarous assault upon him in his own house so that his Life is doubted of and his family in Danger of further trouble from which we believe it our Duty to rescue him for we can’t interprett your Propositions to mean that in the mean time any of her Majestys subjects should be left to the merciless insults of savage people but that every one in the Respective Governments as they are now deemed should quietly enjoy their propertys till the matter be determined to which we readily assent and as soon as we know how far you do claime shall take all necessary order in it

We have sent you inclosed Copys of such Depositions as we have taken relateing to the bounds and desire you will send us those that have been taken by you according to your promise. We are

Your humble servants

EDWARD MOSELY

W GLOVER

FRAN: FOSTER

SAMUEL SWANN

North Carolina ss.

Before me Edward Mosely Esqr one of the members of the Council and Authorised to take the Depositions of certain persons relateing to the boundarys of this Government Personally Came and appeared Charles Merritt aged fifty five years or thereabouts, Who on his Oath on the Holy Evangelists taken saith that he Came into Virginia in or about the year 1666. And lived about twenty yeares on the south side James River and then lived on A Plantation of Collo Benjamin Harrisson on Blackwater and within call of the Weyanoake Indian Forte and consumed there five yeares during which time this Deponent had frequent Discourses with the Indians and was by them informed that they never Claimed to the Southward of the Maherine River But at the time that the Appachoukanough was Routed and taken for the Massacre he had committed the Weyanoakes (being his Confederates and fearing the English) removed themselves from that place which is now called Weyanoake in James River to Warraekeeks on Weyanoake River and after when the Poackyacks killed their King they were by the English brought from thence and placed on the Blackwater aforementioned as Tributarys. where this Deponent lived by them and this Deponent further saith that he was informed by the Weyanoaks that the Weyanoke River now Called Nottoway was their bounds and that they never Seated to the Southward of Warr-a-keeks

the mark of

CHARLES P MERRITT.

Capt at Jurat Duodecimo

die Jany Anno Dom̄i 1707

Coram me

Edwd Moseley

North Carolina ss.

Before me Edward Moseley Esqr one of the members of the Council and being authorised to take the Depositions of Certain persons Relateing to the boundarys of the Government personally came and appeared John Smyth aged sixty two yeares or thereabouts borne in Newport Parish in the Isle of Wight Couty abt fourteen miles from Blackwater River who on his Oath on the holy evangelists taken saith that he lived in Newport parish till the year one thousand six hundred seventy three or thereabouts at which time this Deponent came and lived about five miles off Blackwater and about thirty miles off Weyanoake River which was always in this Deponents memory Known to be the first River on the Right hand as you go down Blackwater till within these twenty years or thereabout the Nottoways comeing to live nearer the River than they used to do and the Weyanoakes being all declined it Gained the name of Nottoway and this Deponent further saith that he never knew or heard of any other River that was Called Weyanoak except the abovesaid by the Virginians lately Called Nottoway

JNO SMYTH

Capt and Jurat Vicessimo

primo die Januar anno 1707

Coram me

Edwd Moseley

North Carolina ss.

Before me Edward Moseley Esqr one of the members of the Council and being Authorized to take the Depositions of Certain persons relateing to the boundarys of this Government, personally Came and appeared Richd Booth aged sixty three years or thereabouts who on his Oath on the Holy Evangelists taken saith that in or about the year 1661 this Deponent came into Virginia and served Major Merritt six years (who then lived about Twenty miles from the Weyanoake Indian Town the Weyanoks living very near a plantation that now belongs to Collo Harrison betwixt Blackwater River & Weyanoake River which Weyanoake River by reason of the Declension of the Weyanoake Indians and the Nottoway Indians removing nigher to it has since in this Deponents memory gained the name of Nottoway River by the Virginians) And this Deponent further saith that in the year 1667 he being employed by one William West to go in a Canoe with Certain goods &c to the Maherine Indian Towns one Jno Browne and a certain Weyanoake Indian called Tom Frusman being in the Canoe with him as they went down Blackwater River this Deponent then being a Stranger in those parts any other than by hearesay enquired what river that was they first mett with on their Right Hand they answered it was Weyanoake and Opposite to the Rivers mouth was a field belonging to the Weyanoakes it being then about one of the Clock in the afternoon this Deponent enquired how far it was to Maherine River they answered they should gett there before sun down which they did accordingly whereby this Deponent Computed it was about thirteen miles by Water and this Deponent further saith that he never understood that the Weyanoake Indians ever lived to the Southward of that River

RICHd BOOTH.

Capt et Jurat Decimo

die January Anno 1707

Coram me

Edward Mosely

North Carolina ss.

Before me Edward Moseley Esqr one of the Council and being authorized to take the Depositions of Certain persons relateing to the boundarys of this Government.

Personally Came and appeared Jno Browne aged sixty eight yeares or thereabouts who on his Oath on ye holy evangelist taken saith that in the year 1659 or 60 he this Deponent came into Virginia and lived in Henrico County some years and then came to live on Blackwater River and that at that time this Deponent understood and was informed that the first River (as they went down) on the Right hand was Weyanoake River And this Deponent further saith that he never heared it called by any other name till severall years after when the Weyanoakes declining and the Nottoways removing nearer the River, and he this Deponent with severall others usually going to the Nottoways to fish first gave it the Generall name of Nottoway And this Deponent saith that at the mouth of the said river there is an old field Known at this day by the name of Weyanoake neck And this Deponent further saith that he never knew that the Weyanoake Indians ever lived lower than that River.

JNO BROWNE

Capt et Jurat Decimo

die Januar Anno 1707

Coram me

Edwd Moseley

North Carolina ss.

Before me Edward Moseley Esqr one of the members of the Council and being authorized to take the Deposition of certain persons relating to the boundarys of this Government. Personally came and appeared William Brush aged sixty five years or thereabouts who on his Oath according to the forme of his profession taken saith that in or about the year one thousand six hundred and fifty eight or fifty nine he this Deponent came into Virginia and lived twenty yeares or thereabout within sixteen miles or thereabouts off Weyanoake River and about fifteen years more within twelve miles of Weyanoake River being the first River on the Right hand as you go down Blackwater River and about twelve miles above Maherine River During the Major part of which time the Deponent never heard it go by any other name than Weyanoake and this Deponent further saith that about twelve years agoe (one of this Deponents Neighbours) Nathan King took up a peice of Land lyeing opposite to the mouth of the said River which Land was Commonly said by the neighbours to lye at the mouth of Weyanoake River to distinguish it from other Land the said Nathan had and this Deponent further saith that he never knew or heard of any other Weyanoke River than that aforementioned and which by the Virginians has lately been called Nottoway by Reason the Nottoway Indians having of late been the chief dwellers near it

Capt et Jurat Vicesimo

primo die Januar Anno 1707

coram me

Edwd Moseley

September the 15th 1707

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( A tedious and condescending account by the ex Governor of both Carolinas and lapdog of English castle-trash…”Their Witnesses are all very ignorant men & most of them men of ill fame that have run away from Virginia & some of them concerned in Interest & we plainly discover several of them did not understand what they swore in their Affidavits & we observe that all of them contradict themselves or one another. ”   …what a twit, North Carolina won the dispute.)

 

search “bratwell”…..Richard Braswell

“maul”…. William Maule

Brown and Booth as above

 

Philip Ludwell, Journal of the Proceedings of Philip Ludwell and Nathaniel Harrison, The Colonial Records of North Carolina, circa 1710

Text from Book

Modernization for the text below:

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A JOURNAL OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF PHILIP LUDWELL AND NATHANIEL HARRISON COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED FOR SETTLING THE BOUNDARYS BE’T`WEEN HER MAJESTYS COLONY AND DOMINION OF VIRGINIA AND THE PROVINCE OF CAROLINA.

Before we enter upon the Narrative of our proceedings it will be necessary to observe that on the arrival of Her Majestys Letters Mandatory directing the appointment of Commrs for settling the Boundarys between Virginia & Carolina, the President & Councill thought fitt to appoint us on the 18th of Aprill last to be the Commissioners for that purpose, & on the 27th of the same month our Instructions were agreed on in Council. Thereupon Mr President (after having discoursed Mr Lawson one of the Commissioners of Carolina) writt to the sd Commnrs on the 5th of May notifying our being ready, & named the 9th of June as a proper time for a meeting of both Commissioners at Williamsburgh to concert & adjust the method of proceeding in this affair, In answer to wch letter, MrLawson writt to the President that he had not seen Mr Moseley (the other Commr) that he was then very busy in settling the Palatines (in wch he expected to meet with much difficulty by reason of the distractions of that Government) and that therefore they the Commrs of Carolina could not meet us according to that appointment, but hoped they should be able to do it in July, & Mr Moseley in a letter of the 5th of June excused his attending the Meeting as not having then seen Mr Lawson nor the powers given them by the Lords Proprietors, but, that when he had, he would give timely notice when they the Commrs of Carolina could meet.

Thus this matter stood at the arrival of the Lieutt Governor who having thought it necessary to have our Instructions re-examined & considered before himself in Council, was pleased on the sixth of July to sign our Commission, & Instructions according as they had been agreed on.

On the 18th of July we received our Commission at Williamsburgh, & there hearing no farther of the intentions of the Commrs of Carolina, We writt the following Letter to them.

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WILLIAMSBURGH July 18th 1710.

Gentlemen

Having received a Commission from Her Majesty’s Lieutenant Governor to Act in conjunction with you for settling the Boundarys between this Her Majestys Colony of Carolina we were in hopes that according to what you were pleased to writt to Mr President Jenings, you would have signifyed to us when you could conveniently have met us, for adjusting the proper methods of carrying on this work, but having heard nothing from you since Yr Answer to the Presidents Letter, We think ourselves obliged very earnestly to desire you will let us know your last resolution, whether wee may expect to meet you at Williamsburgh any time this month; or if you do not think fitt to meett us there, we desire you to appoint some other place where we may meet you this month because the season of the year will not admitt of any longer delay. We are

Gent

Your most humble servants

PHIL: LUDWELL

NATT: HARRISON

Superscribe

To Edwd Moseley & Jno Lawson Esqrs
Commrs appointed by the Lords
Proprietors of Carolina, for settling
the Limits thereof or either of there
in North Carolina.

We communicated this letter to the Governor, who was pleased to desire we would press the Commissioners of Carolina to give the most expeditous dispatch that could be to this affair, whereupon we writt the following postscript to this letter.

July the 19th 1710. Coll: Spotswood our Governor being very pressing to have this affair expedited as much as possible, we are obliged once more to desire you will please to appoint us the shortest day of meeting that can be, and that you will give this messenger the quickest dispatch with yor Answer, which will very much oblige

Gent

Yr most humble servants

P L

N H

On the 1st of August I (Nath : Harrison) received the following letter from Mr Moseley by the same Messenger that carryed our letter to him.

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NORTH CAROLINA July 25th 1710.

Gent

This day I received yours of the 18th instant relating to the Boundarys between this Governmt and Virginia, I think myself obliged to acquaint you that I have taken all the necessary measures I possibly could to bring it to some issue, for immediately after my receipt of Mr President Jening’s Letter (which came from Mr Lawson) I dispatched a Letter to Neus desiring Mr Lawson to inform me when he could be at Leasure from his concerns with the Palatines lately arrived, that we might attend this business; Since which on the nineteenth of the last month I pressed him to a speedy Determination, but to this time have received no answer which I ascribe to the great Distance he is from me, at least an hundred miles, and three Large and difficult Ferrys in the way. However I have adventured to appoint the one and twentieth of August next for our meeting you at Williamsburgh agreeable to Mr President Jening’s request and yours, being desirous to shew my ready complyance to anything that may make evident my willingness to retrieve the passed time.

I design to-morrow to send a Messenger directly to Mr Lawson to advertise him hereof. In the meantime

I am

Gent

Your most humble servant

EDWd MOSELEY

August 21st We went to Williamsburgh expecting to have meett the Commrs of Carolina, but they did not come. August. 25th Being informed that Mr Hyde (Governor of North Carolina) was come to Williamsburgh, and expecting the Commrs were come with him I (Philip Ludwell) went thither where I Understood Mr. Lawson had been there, and was gone to Captain Jones’ with design to return home speedily there being no news of Mr Moseley. I immediately waited on the Governor to receive the Direcons how to proceed who was pleased to direct me to dispatch a Messenger early next morning to Mr Mosely to desire his Company as soon as possible at Wmsburgh and in the mean time he was pleased to engage Mr Lawson to stay for the return of the Messenger. August 26th Early in the morning I sent away the following letter to Mr Nathaniel Harrison to be by him sent to Mr Moseley.

Virginia August 25th 1710. Conformable to your appointment in your letter of the 25th of July. We mett at Wmsburgh on the 21st instant where

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we flattered ourselves we should have had the honour of your Company but being disappointed of it that day without hearing from you and also being informed that several Carolina gentlemen designed to wait on Mr Hyde that very day at Norfolk We concluded we should see you at Williamsburgh in two or three days Our Conjecture proved not altogether wrong for Mr Lawson arrived on Wednesday or Thursday (having been hindered a day or two in his passage) but not finding you here resolved to return home speedily Our Governor Coll. Spotswood being desirous to bring this affair to as speedy a Conclusion as may be (and being apprehensive that if we fail of a meeting while Mr Lawson is here it will be in vain to expect any further proceedings in Concert with you this year) commands us to desire yr Company at Wmsburgh as soon as possible because Mr Lawson’s affairs are very urgent and his Honr has undertaken to engage Mr Lawson to stay three or four days longer

We send this by an Express & hope to have the Honour of your Company at Williamsburgh by Wednesday next where we shall be always ready to do everything that can be expected for expediting this good Work and in the meantime, We are Sr

Your most humble servants

PHILIP LUDWELL

NATH : HARRISON

To EDWARD MOSELEY Esqre one of the Commissioners appointed for setting the bounds betwixt Virginia & Carolina, at his house in North Carolina

As soon as this Letter was dispatched I sent a letter to Mr Lawson Inviting him to my house & to inform him that We had sent to Mr Moseley and expected he would come in four or five days, In answer to which he writt that he had already promised the Governor to stay for the return of the Messenger.

Augt 30. We mett the Carolina Commissioners in the Conference room in the Capitol. As soon as our Commissions on both sides were read Mr Moseley objected that we could not treat of this affair because there was a variance in our Commissions. For their Coms impowered them only to Act in Conjunction with us and by the preamble of our Commrs it seemed that the Queen designed no more & yet our Commission impowered us to Act separately. This he insisted on very much questioning the Governors power to give such a Commission. We argued that it could be no objection that a Commission had too full a power given him to treat

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That our Commission appointed us to Act in in Conjunction if they would, & to that end we were mett and if our Commission did go further to impower us to act seperately in case of disagreement that could be no objection till we had treated & tryed whether we could agree or not besides We thought that what we were appointed to do in case of Disagreement could not properly be called acting seperately since it was nothing but what was necessary for giving Her Majesty a full information of the Case whereby she might be enabled to make a Determination of it & as to the Governors power since he had given it under his hand that it was in pursuance of Her Majestys commands we should not doubt his power nor our own if she did not agree. At last Mr Lawson being satisfied Mr Moseley was forced to quitt the argument and then we proceeded as the Minuts taken by Mr Robertson will shew, but we must remark that Mr Moseley started all the captious Argument and Exceptions that could be.

This Conference ended without coming to any other agreement than that we would proceed to take more Affidavits on both sides & then make a Tryal of the Latitude at both the contested places. In order to which Mr Moseley agreed to come to Green Spring the next day, from whence we were to sett out to take the Virginia Affidavits first, but I (Nathaniel Harrison) being taken very ill of an Ague that night, I (Philip Ludwell) went to the Governor’s next day to meet Mr Moseley & endeavour to put off our Survey for two days, but I found Mr Moseley very urgent to delay it much longer, for he said his horse was gravelled, & he had such urgent business that he must go home at last (the Governor pressing him very much) he came to this resolution that on Tuesday the 19th he would come to the house of Mr Nath : Harrison to proceed in taking our evidences in Virginia, and from thence we should go with him to Carolina to take their evidences, which we hoped might be done by the 28th against which time he was to give Mr Lawson (whom he expected to see that night) notice to meet us with his Instruments to go & try the Latitude.

September 21st Having waited in vain these two days for Mr Moseleys coming We proceeded to Coll. Harrison’s, where we mett with Thomas Cotton & took his Affidavit From thence, we went to Henry Brigg’s, where we mett Richd Washington & took his Affidavit from whence we proceeded in our way to Nottoway.

The 22nd We went to the Nottoway Indian Town, where we had appointed Henry Wych to meet Us to give his Deposition, but he did not come. Here we took the Examinations of three Wyanoake Indian women that live here; having given them strict Charge to tell nothing

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but the truth. But the Nottoway Indian old men being gone to gather Chinkopens We deferred the taking their Examinacons till our Return, and went to the Nansemond or Potchiak Indians Town. In our Way thither we mett one Richard Bratwell who told us that he had entered for about 1000 acres of land with Mr Moseley and had it surveyed upon Maherine River, being persuaded to it by the sd Moseley, who assured him it was in the Carolina Government and that Nottoway River was Wyanoake and he pretended to read a copy of the Carolina Charter which express’d that they were to begin at the North end of Carotuck Inlett, & to go to Weyanoake River or Creek being in 36 1/2 Deg Lat; & that Mr Moseley did take the Latitude of Nottoway River’s mouth, & told him & others then present that it agreed, and from thence he run a due West Course to Maharine River, and we afterwards had ye same accot from others. But Mr Moseley on our asking him, denyed that he had ever tried the lattitude of Nottoway River, tho’ he owned he had run a line from the mouth of it due West to Maharine River, wch he did by order of their Council.

The 23rd. We took the Examinacons of Great Peter the Nansemond Indian after his Examination he told us, that sometime before, he was sent for to Coll: Pollocks, where were Governor Hyde, Mr Lawson, Coll: Pollock & others, they examined him concerning the Wyanoake Indians and Weyanoke Creek that he gave them the same relation he has given us, and that thereupon Coll. Pollock was angry with him & said, such storys would do the Proprietors a mischief; he answered that he did not come of himself to tell any storys, but was sent for, & if he desired to hear it, he would tell him the truth, but if that would not please him he would not tell him a lye. That Mr Hyde said he was in the right, he said Coll. Pollock urged him very much to drink, but he thought they had a design upon him & would not.

Then we proceeded to the Maherine Indian Town and took their Examinacon. At this place there was one John Beverley, who reckons himself an inhabitant of Carolina, whom we desired to take notice of the manner of our proceeding in taking the Examinations and of the questions asked them. This man had been all up Wicocon Creek & had taken up some land in the Fork of the Creek where the Weyanoake Town stood and when we made the Indians mark out upon the ground, the Creek & Swamps, & the places where the Weyanoake Indians had Corn fields he confessed the Creek Swamps & old fields were as they described them.

The 24th we set out for Mr Moseley’s.

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The 25th we arrived at Mr Moseleys, who seemed surprized at our coming having as he told us sent a Messenger to excuse his not meeting us at Mr Harrison’s and prevent our disappointment, here we stayed this day & the next in expectation of Edward Smethwick & Francis Tomms two witnesses wch Mr Moseley sent for, but they both made excuses that they were not able to come. While we were here Mr Moseley showed us a Letter from Mr Lawson dated from Little River the sixth of September wherein he complains of the shortness of the time for taking the Latitude (tho much later than he had formerly agreed on at our meeting at Wmsburgh his pinnace not being come for him, however he promised to meet or get his Instruments at the place appointed if possible, and recommending to Mr Moseley a brass semi circle that was in that neighborhood in case his did not come-but amongst the rest he writt that he thought it would be of very ill consequence for them to submit to our appointments. This Semi Circle Mr Moseley showed us, but said he did not think fit to carry it to the place appointed to try the Latitude, it being so small that it could not be certainly determined thereby ; for the Radius was but 6 inches, & was not capable of being graduated to less than 10 minutes, wherefore he would depend upon Mr Lawson bringing or sending his Instrument.

The 27th. We proposed to Mr Moseley to go to his Evidences but Smethwick living at a great distance up Morattuck River, & Mr Moseley not desiring us to go thither we went to Francis Tomm’s house and took his declaracons being a Quaker, and here we must observe that Mr Moseley acted very disengenuosly, for when Thom’s answered some of our questions to wch Mr Moseley had made no objection, tho he answered the same things over several times we could not without quarrelling prevail with him to set down the answers in ye same terms that Tomms spoke them, but would be putting other words of a different signification into his mouth, and endeavouring to prevail with him to speak them.

The 28th We went to James Farlows to take his affidavit but Mr Moseley having given him no notice of our coming, he was gone 12 or to 15 Mile from home towards Mr Moseley home, which was directly back again,and Mr Moseley not insisting upon him as a material evidence (for he told us he did not know what he could say, but that having lived in Appomatux he supposed he could say something) We proceeded to Maherine River to meet Mr Beverley & Mr Allen the Surveyors with whom we had appointed to meet Mr Moseley and Mr Lawson the next day at Wicocon or Wyanoake Creek.

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The 29th. We went to Wycocon Creek where we mett Mr Moseley but Mr Lawson sent an Excuse & and one to act in his room; They had no sort of Instrument with them. He took the Latitude at noon with Mr Beverleys Sea Quadrant, the Radius whereof was two foot 3 inches, & well graduated to two ‘Minutes & a good plumb & fine thread. We found the Zenith distance of the sun to be 43deg: 16m the Declination of the Sun we allowed to be 6d : 33m. The Parallax we allowed to be two min : By wch observacon the Latitude appeared to be 36d: 41m. The day being very clear, this observation was taken at the window Earlis about 2 miles up the Creek, there being no firm land nearer but all sunken marsh & Pocoson. Our horses getting from us last night, we could not reach this place till a quarter after eleven, so that we had not time to fix the quadrant to stand by itself, but held it by hand rested by a stake of a fence & standing on another stake: To this Mr Moseley objected that it was lyable to error & not so nice & certain as it ought to be, wherefore we resolved to stay till next day and take another observacon. This day we examined Jno Smith Wm Bush Rich Booth & Charles Merrit.

The 30th. We took the affidavit of William Hooker, and Mr Moseley took the affidavit of Lewis Williams Then we proceeded again to take the latitude at the same place as yesterday having fixed the quadrant very firm & nicely, & used a horse hair to the plumb instead of the thread, and according to the best of our observation we found the zenith distance to be 43d: 29m The Declination we allowed to be 6d. 57m the Paralax 2m’. By which observation the latitude appeared to be 36d 40m. But some flying clouds intercepting the sun for some few minutes, this observation could not be depended upon to a minute, yet Mr Beverly was positive he was within 4 or 5 minutes at ye utmost, & we verily believe it was not above 5 or 6 minutes betwixt the last fair observation, & the time we found the sun was considerably fallen: but Mr Moseley being dissatisfyed we resolved to stay another day & take a new observation for his satisfaction. This day we went down the Creek by water to the mouth of it, & took ye Courses & Distances of the meanders, & found the Creeks mouth to be 20 Poles to ye southward of the place where we took the observation. Here Chowan River is about a quarter of a mile wide and the Creek near 100 yards. It may not be improper in this place to observe a true reason for Mr Moseleys leaving behind him his Brass Instrument for trying the latitude, that what he was pleased to Give, of its being too small: For he owned he had with the same Instrument taken the latitude of his own house, & afterwards showed us a map

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of that part of Carolina wch he had made from his own surveys ; by wch he must certainly know what course & distance Weyanoake or Wicocon Creek was from his house, and thereby could tell within 10 minutes in what latitude the Creek lay according to that Instrument But if by bringing that Instrument he should have discovered to us that the said Creek was in the latitude of their charter, of perhaps to the Northward of it (as it appeared to be by our Quadrant) it might have been difficult for him with all the subtlety whereof he is Master, to have found a specious excuse against so plain a Demonstration, whereas by bringing no Instruments of his own he left himself at full liberty to find fault with ours.

The 1st of October was very cloudy, so that we could take no observation, and the sky threatening bad weather, we resolved to stay no longer, but to go back to the Maherine Indians to examine them again in Mr Moseley’s presence, & in our way thither we took the examination of John Brown.
The 2nd The Maherine Indians not being at home we proceeded to the Nansemond Indian Town, in order to take the latitude at Nottoway Rivers mouth, & to examine those Indians; but when we came there, most of the Indians were gone to get Chincopens & it being a rainy day we could take no observation.

I (Philip Ludwell) came up Chowan River almost from Wicocon Creek by water with Mr Beverley & set the Courses of the River as we came up, & guessed the distances, by wch we might be enabled to compute how near our observations at the two places agreed, & we found them to agree very near.

At the Nansemond Town the Interpreter told us that when he went down to Wicocon Creek with a Nansemond Indian called Robin Tucker who was sent by the Indians to shew us the Creek on wch the Wyanoakes formerly lived, he called at one William Williams’s house, where he met with one Mr Maul (who is ye same person appointed by Mr Lawson to supply his place at our taking the Latitude) and that being sometime in the House and the Indian left without, as soon as he (the Interpreter) came out, the Indian told him, That man (meaning Mr Maul) was not good for he had been (persuading) him to deny that the Weyanoakes had lived on Wicocon Creek, & promised him two bottles of powder and a thousand shott to do it. Upon wch we examined the Indian charging him not to tell a ly of the Gentleman, & he assured us it was very true. This Mr Lawson’s Deputy Surveyor.

The 23rd. We went to the mouth of Nottoway River and in an old field on ye North East side of Chowan just opposite to the Lower side of
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Nottoway River, called by the people of Carolina Weyonoake Creek, We cutt off the logs of a small tree, and fixed the Quadrant very nicely to the stumps of it, & the day being very clear we had a good observation. We found the zenith distance to be d45: m6. the Declination we allowed for that day to be d8: m4 the Parralax m2 by which observation the latitude of the place appeared to be just 37 Deg: But the Gentlemen were not satisfyed yet, tho they stood continually looking on ye Instrument at Mr Beverleys elbow, the pretence for their cavilling here was on this occasion Mr Beverley while he perceived the sun still rising let the Instrument stay a considerable time, and when he thought the sun at the highest, he then moved it, by which means it altered about 10 min: from what it was before, and we did not perceive the sun to rise any more afterwards. Upon which they agreed it was all uncertain, & that this could not be taken for the sun’s true latitude; we endeavoured to continue there, & Mr Beverly desired Mr Moseley to try it himself: but they would allow no Instrument to be fitt for taking the Latitude except Mr Lawson’s, wch they design to have some time or other, and then they expect we should meet them again. We think the observacons wery exact, but they cavill at every thing, for no other reason (as we can find) but only to delay for we understand Mr Moseley has pursuaded people to take up & has already survey’d almost all the land in dispute near the mouth of the rivers that is of any value, telling them that they need be in no doubt, that Nottoway River lay exactly in the Latitude of their Charter & that he ran a West line from thence to Maherine River and the people on this accot believe themselves very safe.

That he has himself taken up a great deal of land there, part of which he has sold & there are yet no patents issued for any of those lands but he hopes to procure them (as we suppose) upon the arrival of a Governor or other settlement of their Government) yet fears he shall not only lose his own land but be forced to refund what the poor people have paid him if it be determined to belong to Virginia before he can obtain patents in Carolina, so that t’is not to be wondered he has fished for so many pretences to obstruct a work upon the Determination whereof his own Interest is like to suffer.

The 4th After a very hard journey we arrived at Nathl Harrison’s where we found Mr Moseley’s letter of excuse dated Sunday September the 17th with a Copy of Smethwicks Affidavit. The messenger that brought this letter returned to Mr Moseleys while we were there. We asked him when he arrived at Mr Harrisons? he answered on the Friday after we set out, and being asked what made him so long on his

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journey as from Sunday to Friday, he answered he did not set out on his Journey till Tuesday, wch was the day we were to meet.

To the Honble Alexander Spotswood Esqre Her Majestys Lieutenant Governor of Virginia–

May it please yor Honr

Having in the preceding Journal given yor Honr a full account of our proceedings hitherto in this affair. We humbly beg leave to offer yor Honr our thoughts upon the state of the Case, which from the best observations we have made appears to us to stand thus.

On the part of Virginia

lst There are two positive Evidences of good fame to the place & name of Weyano-ake Creek.

2nd Several Evidences corroborating the Indians account of the Weyanoak Indians having bought land & lived upon the said Creek and very near it for several years, not long before the Grant of the Carolina Charter: from whence probably the Creek took its name, having no name before that we heard of.

3rd All our Evidences are unanimous as to the name of Nottoway River which with the Indians account, corroborated by English Evidences of the Weyanoaks paying an acknowledgement to the Nottoways (who lived there long before) for living on that River, makes it seem improbable the name of that River should be changed from their living a few years upon it, at least twenty five miles from the mouth, when they lived much longer upon Blackwater without altering the name of it.

4th The Evidences on the part of Virginia are all men of good Credit and agree very well in their relation.

5th The Latitude of Weyanoak or Weycocon Creek appears to agree very near with the Carolina Grant whereas Nottoway River appears to be thirty minutes to the Northward of it.

On the part of Carolina

1st They have no Evidences that speak to the name of Weyanoak or Weycocon Creek at the time of their Grant.

2nd All their Evidence runs to the name of Weyanoak River & not one calls it a Creek & indeed Nottoway River seems to be the main branch of Chowan River, & it is Navigable (if it were cleared) as high as the head of Blackwater Swamp, whereas there Charter runs expressly to Weyanoak Creek & that is called a Creek to this day.

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3rd Their Witnesses are all very ignorant men & most of them men of ill fame that have run away from Virginia & some of them concerned in Interest & we plainly discover several of them did not understand what they swore in their Affidavits & we observe that all of them contradict themselves or one another.

Upon Consideration of the whole Case as the Circumstances have appeared to be in the whole Course of our Progress, we are clearly convinced that the place call’d Weycocon is the place called Weyanoak Creek in the Carolina Charter, & from the backwardness of the Carolina Commrs to meet us & to bring this business to a conclusion, together with the frivolous objections they make upon all occasions to retard our proceedings, & some other Observations we have made, which are too tedious to insert here, we cannot choose but believe that they or one of them at least is convinced of this in his own Judgt (if he would be so ingenuous as to own it) but either for private interest or some other reason to themselves best known they hope to put off the Decision for some time.

Signed.
PHILIP LUDWELL.

N. HARRISON.

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September 26, 2010 at 2:00 pm

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  1. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=larrymoler&id=I07211

    Note Generation No. 5, the move from IOW to NC.

    This has been interesting, thanks for allowing the comments.

    Danny

    Danny P. Brown

    July 7, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    • Danny Thanks for the input. I think much of the data from the links you provided is gleaned from the traditional accounts of John Bennet Boddie’s research. I offer some contradictory info in my notes… particularly that the William and Thomas Browne of Chowan (now Northampton Co.) may actually be sons of the Indian Trader and not connected to the Boddie family of IOW.

      Don’t be a stranger
      Marc

      anderson1951

      July 7, 2011 at 5:52 pm

      • I hesitate to jump in here because I haven’t read all of your pages yet and this may already appear somewhere else. The William Brown who married Martha Braswell was the father of sons John, Thomas, and Jacob. John married Mary Foster (whose father Robert names their son John in his will), Thomas married Christian Maule, daughter Sarah married Daniel McDaniel, and daughter Mary married Gideon Gibson thus adding strength to your Indian trader connection.
        However, Mary Jane McKinnie (daughter of Barnabus and Mary Exum) also married a John Brown around the same time period. Have no idea where this John fits in.

        Jane

        July 16, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      • You and I are on the same page… seperating these Brownes is maddening:

        40 years between these 2 Bridgetts…. what’s up with that?

        Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, 1647-1800 By Blanche Adams Chapman

        BROWN, John: Dying intestate, administration requested by Bridgett Browne, his relict, Feb. 9, 1665, R, March 26, 1666. Security, Mr. Arthur Smith, Edward Gibbs. Page 11

        Isle of Wight Deed Book 2 1704-1715, Hopkins

        (p.40) 9 Aug 1706…. John Browne and wife, Bridgett Browne, to Samuel Canidy…. 220 acres (being a patent dated 29 Apr 1692 in the lower parish on the south side of Kingsale Swamp and bounded by Jonathan Robinson and William Stott (Scott?).
        Wit: Richard Exum and William Murray.
        John (X) Browne
        Rec: 10 Jun 1706

        Also I think the 2 Browne brothers teamed up with Richard Braswell and bought some property right next to the Nottoway reservation about 1702 or so… Hmmmm…
        ———-
        Barnaby McKinnie (I don’t have him on the IOW map) lived very close to the Braswell property… I don’t know if he was a trader but wouldn’t be surprised. He moved for a short time just over the Blackwater River before heading to NC.

        Isle of Wight Deed Book 11688-1704, Hopkins

        (p.339) 9 Dec 1701…. Deposition of Thomas Reeves, aged 52, states that he knoweth Michaell Mackquinny owned a certain piece of land in his lifetime and in his will gave his main plantation to his younger son Barnaby Mckquinny but after his death the land was found to Escheat and it is now held by said Reeves in right of his wife Elizabeth Reeves who received it for her lifetime from her husband Michael Mackquinny. Mention is made of John Mackquinny who acted for his brother Barnaby Mackquinny as he was not of age.
        Thomas (X) Reeves
        Rec: 9 Dec 1701

        Is this your mystery John Browne?

        C 319 JACOB BROWN to BARNABE MACKINNE, JUN. March 28, 1730. 40 pds. for 100 A. “…land…to me by last will and testament of my father WILLIAM BROWN which land since my father’s decease for want of patent hath been surveyed for my Eldest brother JOHN BROWN…by date March 13, 1721….” Cont. 525 A. On SS Morattock River “whereon my father did live and then dye….” Adj. RICHARD JACKSON, BARNABE MACKINNE, ____ STRICKLAND. Wit: BARNABE MACKINNE, jurat, MARY MACKINNE

        anderson1951

        July 16, 2011 at 8:06 pm

  2. 220 acres witnessed by Exum to John and Bridgett in Isle of Wight, Va. Bk. 2 Page 41. Also, located in Miner Descent. Still believe this is not the same Browne from Ingatestone? Trying to see where during the same years they both lived in Isle of Wight and ,married the same Bridgett.

    Danny P. Brown

    July 13, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    • I think its an unwritten rule that if two people with the same name and same county have to live close together just to baffle future genealogists… the Bridgett gal is a mystery to me (I thought with that name it would be easy to find her but there seems to be more than one…. Bridgett was common name …whodathunkit?)

      anderson1951

      July 13, 2011 at 8:25 pm

      • Danny
        A belated answer to your “Bridgett” question is above (see Jane answer)… I wasn’t trying to be snarky, it was buried in my notes.
        Marc

        anderson1951

        July 16, 2011 at 9:49 pm

  3. Re: Jacob Brown to Barnabe McK 1730: The John Brown mentioned as brother to Jacob is also the son of William Brown and Martha Braswell. He is the one married to Mary Foster.

    As I look at my notes, Barnabe McK’s son Barnaby (apparently you can spell the name any way you want to) is also married to a Mary Brown. It’s like a pile of spaghetti.

    Barnabe Sr. received grants in Isle of Wight for 5684 acres for the transportation of 109 people between 1702 and 1714. He sold this land is an series of 55 deeds before they moved to NC about 1721.

    Jane

    July 17, 2011 at 2:36 am

    • (Laughing)… And all the while, William Boon is trampling thru the woods of Occoneechee Neck also. I’m kind of partial to the spelling “Mackquinny” but it seems to have lost favor. Also lost is the name of my guy’s wife who is probably a sister of one of these characters… James Anderson.

      anderson1951

      July 17, 2011 at 5:23 am

      • (Still laughing)… And to stay on point and give the “researcher” J.B. Boddie his due- there is still confusion over items such as this:

        William Boddie will
        17 December 1712, wp 25 Feb. 1717, Isle of Wight co., VA.
        “In the Name of God Amen: I, William Boddie, of the Isle of Wight county, being sick and weak of body, … I give and dispose of as followeth, after my debts and legacies are paid.
        (snip)
        I give and bequeath to my grandson, William Brown, one shilling.
        I give and bequeath unto my grandson, Thomas Brown, one shilling, and also I do give and bequeath unto all their sisters, my grand-daughters, one shilling apiece….
        (Hmmm…William Browne dies 1719, Thomas in 1718…Boddie was supposedly in his 80s…even so…Does this imply his grandsons were still living in IOW?)

        anderson1951

        July 17, 2011 at 5:49 am

      • Answering my own question- perhaps this is the “other” Browne for the will of William Boddie:

        ?
        Isle of Wight Co., VA wills, Book 2A, Page 90
        BROWNE, John: Leg. son James, my land on Timothy Walker’s road in Surry
        County; son Thomas land on the same road; daughter Elizabeth; daughter
        Mary; daughter Ann Camerine; daughter Bridgett Wresbury. Exs., sons
        James and Thomas Browne. D. January –, 1720/21. R. July 24, 1721.
        Wit: Thomas Nickson, George Goodson, Peter Green.
        (note the name “Bridgett” …this seems to be Surry County)

        anderson1951

        July 17, 2011 at 11:23 am

    • Another sordid tidbit… (from an older Post)

      Just to let you folks know that I have a sense of humor and don’t take this too seriously, I was perusing some notes in preparation of a Page and ran across one of my own comments I forgot about….

      Colonial Bertie County, NC, Deed Books A-H 1720-1757. Bell

      B 144 JOHN BROWN & WIFE MARY TO WILLIAM STRICKLAND May 9, 1726. 20 pds. for 100 A. On SS Morrattock River at BROWN’s Spring Gutt. Wit BARN MACKINNE, JOHN ANDERSON. May Court 1726. ROBERT FORSTER C/C

      an aside pertaining to the despicable philanderer …

      Minutes of the General Court of North Carolina

      North Carolina. General Court

      July 28, 1727 – August 02, 1727

      CSR Volume 02, Pages 703-712

      A presentment against John Brown for having left his Wife the daughter of Barnaby Mackennie and cohabits with another which he acknowledges to be his lawfull Wife both of the Sayd Women within this Government….

      The presentment of the grand Jury against John Brown was read in these words Vizt

      Wee of the Grand Jury do present John Brown of Bertie precinct alias Bath Severall amongst us Say that they know him to have left his Wife the daughter of Barnaby Mackinne & cohabits with another which he acknowledges to be his lawfull Wife both of the Sayd Women Within this Government.

      …he probably drank too…

      anderson1951

      July 17, 2011 at 1:27 pm

  4. I did not include this tidbit in the main article because, well, the whole thing is confusing enough without it. But perhaps some kind soul can enlighten us as to who this “Bridgett” is and whether or not she is the one who married the Indian Trader (or his son)?

    http://www.nonawilliams.com/names/braswell/burgess_susanna.htm

    Octob.r 1694
    Upon the petn of BRIDGET LEWIS, she has order ag.st JN. COLLINS sen.r for 500.lb of tobo: for the care & pains taken by the sd LEWIS in the cure of the sd COLLINS his wife with Costs ats Ex.o

    Octob.r 1694
    Order is granted SUSANNA BRASEWELL ag.st JOHN COLLINS sen.r for foure hundred pounds of tobo: for looking after the sd COLLINS his wife in her late extemity when she was beaten by the sd COLLINS with costs ats Ex.o

    It appearing to this Courte that JOHN COLLINS SENr hath lately most desperately beaten, bruised, & wounded MARY his wife, insomuch that it was expected she would have lost her life thereby (as alsoe between whom former strife & contention hath been) for prevention whereof for the future, It is ordered that the sd COLLINS pay & allow his sd Wife five hundred pounds of tobo: forthwith, & one thousand pounds of tobo: in October yearly for the tyme to come, for the sd MARY her mainteynance (if she finde cause) To live separate & aparte from her husband, wth Costs ats Exo

    Mr. THO: TABORER agst. Jno COLLINS SENr Defendant appearing & standing mute at the bar, Order is granted plaintiff agst. the present sheriff for 3585 lbs. of tobacco due by bill denied by defendant & proved by oath of Mr. THO: MOOR

    Introduction. SUSANNAH BRACEWELL, wife of ROBERT BRACEWELL, Jr., is easily the most enigmatic figure in our original American family. Those who would claim descent from her are cautioned that her descendants are Braswell in name only.

    She was born in Surry County, Virginia, about 1652 to MARY and JOHN BURGESS, members of the wealthy planter class. Proof of her identity begins with that April 20, 1669 Surry deed ( Surry DB I, p. 332) in which MARY SKINNER, wife of RICHARD SKINNER, acknowledged receipt of all the estate that her late husband, JOHN BURGESS gave to her daughter, SUSANNAH BURGESS. A second confirming Surry document, bearing date of May 15, 1672 (Surry DB 2, p. 14) contains the testimony of RICHARD SKINNER, aged 46, and MARY SKINNER, 40, mentioning the orphan of JOHN BURGESS. RICHARD SKINNER died in Isle of Wight County in 1677, as administration was granted his relict MARY SKINNER on April 9, 1677 (Chapman’s Wills and Administrations, Vol. l, p. 104). MARY SKINNER was married to JOHN COLLINS, Sr., by September 9, 1680, for on that date, GEORGE CRIPPS, widower of JOYCE CRIPPS {MARY’s sister} made an agreement with MARY SKINNER, widow, now wife of JOHN COLLINS regarding MARY’s inheritance in 1300 acres of land from her sister, JOYCE CRIPPS (I of W Deeds and Wills, 1662‑1715, Vol. l, pp. 439‑444). MARY also had a sister, SUSANNAH. wife of THOMAS ATKINSON, who was no doubt SUSANNAH BURGESS namesake. Various Isle of Wight records prove that SUSANNAH’s mother, MARY, and her Aunts JOYCE and SUSANNAH were all daughters of KATHERINE FLAKE, wife of ROBERT FLAKE, from an unidentified previous marriage of KATHERINE’s.

    The April 18, 1679 will of SUSANNAH’s Aunt JOYCE CRIPPS (Will & Deed Book I, Vol. 2, p.262) is the first clue we have to SUSANNAH’s character and personality. Aunt JOYCE is generous to everyone but her, bequeathing Unto my Sister SKINNER fifty Acres of Land that doth joyne Unto that Plantation whereon she doth now live during her Naturall life….., to NICHOLAS DAVIS (her Overseer?) that Plantation whereon he now liveth during his naturall life without paying of Rent only a Capon a Yeare for an Acknowledgem:tö‑‑even a generous bequest to ….that Orphant boy that now liveth with me by name of ANTHONY LEWIS. . .

    two Suites of Apparell

    Three Barrells of Corne,

    One heifer with Calve,

    One Couch bed

    a Small Iron Pot

    One Pewter dish

    One Tray and One Spoone….
    but to

    …SHUSAN BRASWELL my Sisters Daughter, she gave only One Shilling of English money.
    ……………
    Abstract of Virginia Land Patents and Grants: Patent 8, p 176 ”Mr. Wm. Mayo, 170 acs. Is o Wight Co; adj John Izing; Gyles Lynscott; John Lawrence; & Col. Bridger, along the main Black Water, 20 Oct. 1692, p. 175 Imp. of 4 pers; John Vates, Owen Burne, Wm Calfe, Mary Nickell” Granted 170 acres by Lt Gov. Francis Nickolson beginning at John King’s. to Gyles Lynscott, to John Lawrence to Blackwater 20 Oct 1691. He assigned this land to Thomas Lewis, son of Richard Lewis, recently deceased with consent of Isabella, my wife 9 August 1693. Isabella makes her brother Hodges Counsel Attorney to acknowledge deed.

    anderson1951

    July 17, 2011 at 11:48 am

  5. Sorry for the late response, I understand the humor and the aggravation they left us with, thanks for the data points, ok, so in your narrative you speculate that John (Jr) B 1650 husband of Mary Boddie had sons, one of which was Thomas who married Christian Maule, father of William (wife Charity Holmes), father of James (husband of 2nd marriage Patty Redding, Revolutionary Pensions noted, first wife Easter(sp)), father of Jacob (wife Susannah J Hyman), father of Thomas Hyman Brown then all dots connect for us.

    John Sr, 1626, twice on Boddie’s ship, I understand the first time was indentured, seems to be where my starts and we can’t move further up the line. Who is this guys parents, could he be the Kingsale John? We show he died 1712.

    Bridgett Lewis was widow when John Sr 1626 married her in IOW. 1644 marriage date. Died 1713 .

    Danny P. Brown

    July 18, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    • No… I say the Thomas Browne who married Christian Maule was the son of the Indian Trader from Kingsale.
      I don’t think the “Brownes connected with William Boddie” even came to North Carolina.
      If my take on the history is correct… many of you Browne descendants need to tear out some pages of your family history, trash them and start again when you trace to the Brownes of modern Halifax/Northampton Counties, NC. Your immigrant would be the Indian Trader who arrived in Henrico Co., VA and not Isle of Wight with William Boddie.

      anderson1951

      July 18, 2011 at 2:10 pm

      • another take on the “Bridgett” enigma… (there were more Bridgetts than you can throw a paternity suit at)…

        These “Williams” researchers have concluded that “John Browne” married a Williams gal…

        http://lfeldhaus.tripod.com/holthousefamilygenealogy/id38.html

        BRIDGETT WILLIAMS, b. Abt. 1670, Isle of Wight, VA; d. Bef. 1694; Married JOHN BROWNE.

        (Browne of Kingsale was born 1639, died after 1707… wife Bridgett signed deed in 1706 …my note, Marc)

        John Browne. Sr., and Bridgett, his wife, he sold to Samuel Cannady 220 acres, “the plantation he lately lived on”, patented April 29, 1692, ln L. P. Kinsale (Lower Parish, Kinsale Swamp). Wit. Richard Exum, William Murry. DB 2 1704-1715”.

        Bridgett was the mother of three daughters at the time of the death of her father. Anne, Bridgett and Mary were named in the will of their grandfather John Williams.

        Bridgett Williams is not named in the will of John Williams she is not mentioned in the Deed of Gift by her mother, Anne Williams, dated 9 April 1694, Isle of Wight County, VA, Deeds. It is likely she had already received her share of John William’s Estate at the time of her marriage. She may have been deceased by the date of Anne Williams deed of gift to her other children.

        … in other words, you Browne researchers have a pile of “spaghetti” as a comment above suggests…

        anderson1951

        July 18, 2011 at 3:54 pm

  6. Ok I think I understand your research now, the disconnect (possibly) is the connection from Thomas william(?) Brown and Christian Maule (pretty tight history to get us to that point) and where we depict John Browne (Jr), b 1650, as his father, your research points to John Browne of Kingsale instead. Here’s what we have on Thomas, B abt 1675 in IOW, Died 12/15/1718 in Chowan County (Wake). They married in 1699 in Nansemond, 2nd marriage.

    Danny P. Brown

    July 21, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    • Now we are on the same page…. I do that dirty little deed that genealogists do when they can’t prove a generation- I “suggest” that “probably” the sons of the Indian Trader were William and Thomas Browne of NC. Which is the beauty of these comments sections where anyone can challenge my theory. But, I want to see “proof” or at least a preponderance of evidence.
      Current Braswell researchers have reasonably proven that the wife of William Browne was Martha Braswell. I’ve shown that the Indian Trader John Browne was directly associated with William West (married a Braswell) and probably Robert Stokes (who married a Braswell)…. Christian Maule was “purported” to be the daughter of William Maule (who had associations with Richard Braswell)… I can go on…

      anderson1951

      July 21, 2011 at 3:35 pm

      • In his will, dated 4 Dec 1667 and proved in Isle of Wight in 1668, Robert Braswell names daughters Rebecca West and Jane Stokes. He was also the father of Richard. One of Richard’s daughters married a Strickland, Matthew I think.
        All of this has prompted me to go back to my Brown research and now I remember when I lost my mind.

        All of this needs to be plotted out on a huge piece of butcher paper. Back to the basics when things get this confusing.

        Jane

        July 25, 2011 at 6:22 pm

      • We have some incredible resources now with the ‘net … check the Braswell websites (impressive work).
        One little piece at a time… I added another Page and think I debunked the “Maule” of Christian Maule.

        anderson1951

        July 25, 2011 at 6:57 pm

  7. I have a challenge out to some Browne’s associated in our DNA study about the aforementioned, this may really make you two pull your hair out, but this leans towards the connection of John Browne Jr 1650 and Sr 1626 to Mary Boddie as Thomas Browne as their son, the daughter in law Christian witnessed the sale. See below and get another pice of paper out.

    When John Jr died Chowan precinct in 1726, inventory of the sale of goods belonging to John Jr, sold 2 Feb 1726. John Warren and wife Grace (Brown), Silvestra Brown of Bertie Co “for the love and affection to our sister Elizabeth Joyner sell her a tract of land formally belonging to John Brown, our father, deceased, patented by him 28 Jul 1713 on west side of Chowan River.” [Bertie County Vol C-168]. Witnesses Finicrer Hayne and Christian Brown (wife of Thomas). Just more info/pieces!

    Danny P. Brown

    July 25, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    • Check these death dates:
      BROWN, THOMAS. Chowan County
      April 1, 1718. October 21, 1718. Sons: THOMAS, JOHN, HOWELL, JAMES. Daughter: SARAH MACDONEL. Wife: CHRISTIAN. Witnesses: JUDETH PERRY and THOMAS PERRY. Clerk of the Court: R. HICKS

      BROWN, WILLIAM. Chowan Precinct
      December 15, 1718. July 21, 1719. Sons: JOHN (“ye manner plantation”), THOMAS (150 acres of land), JACOB (150 acres of land). Daughters: ANN, MARTHA, MARY, SARAH (each 150 acres of land). Executors: THOMAS MONDERS [Mandue]. Witnesses: THOMAS MONDERS, THOMAS SMITH, MARTHA BROWN. Clerk of the Court: R. HICKS. Wife of testator mentioned, but not named.

      Danny… show me a Browne in Chowan that you feel confidently is associated with Boddie?
      Each of the above have a son John and Thomas…

      anderson1951

      July 25, 2011 at 6:52 pm

  8. http://files.usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie/deeds/brownbro150dd.txt

    Thomas Browne, wife Jane, witnesses, Braswell and John Browne. Jane?

    Danny P. Brown

    July 26, 2011 at 1:27 pm

  9. Have you read “Southern Historical Families, Volume VI, Whitley-William of IOW,Page 212?John Browne (Kingsale)son Thomas doesn’t seem to be the Thomas who married Christian but Tabitha.

    Danny P. BrownPage 212

    August 5, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    • I canceled my Ancestry,com account and can’t access that reference… can you give a synopsis? I do know that some Williams researchers have tried to make a connection to a John Browne. Have you seen my other Page where I debunk the Maule connection?

      anderson1951

      August 6, 2011 at 4:58 am

  10. Our John Browne, 1626, was shipwright, on 11/23/1675 sells to Robert Smyth of IOW the hull of a new barque (bark) lately built called “Isabella” of 40 tons but then now riding at anchor in Pagan Creek, Smyth paid him 10k lbs. Will and Deed Book 1, Seventeenth Century IOW. Also, ran into this, Thomas and Christian’s son whom I’m related, was named William Maule Brown, Born 1708 in Chowan, Died 11/10/1779 in Martin ,NC, he married Charity Byrd Holmes in Edgecombe,NC. First time I’ve heard W Maule Brown or Charity Byrd. I can email pdf doc I was sent of the excerpt.

    Danny P. BrownPage 212

    August 8, 2011 at 7:57 am

    • I am another Browne descended from Thomas and all the above. It is so confusing. I have been studying this family on and off for 30 years and still am not sure who is who. Is there a nice neat family tree where I can SEE all this? Thanks Ellen G

      Ellen Gonzalez

      July 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm

      • I wish there was. I’m not sure that the “author” Boddie even placed the Brownes of NC with the immigrant Boddie. My theory is by no means proven but I think it plausible and offers some new pieces to the puzzle.
        Marc

        anderson1951

        July 11, 2012 at 4:29 am

      • Feel free to email me

        Danny P. BrownPage 212

        July 11, 2012 at 9:25 am

    • Newcomer: Hello, I have a different take on the trek of the John Browne family (as well as the Richard Booth story). The genealogy and pioneer story is of John Rogers I, cypress Creek, Surry, son John rogers II w, Mary Booth, & John Rogers III. John Rogers II(Beverdam Sw. near corrawaugh Sw. I of Wt. ) lived practically next door to John Booth of Kingsale. It is safe to say that John Rogers was a “best friend of Thomas. They both moved to Nansemond sommerton Cr. in 1700, with Thomas showing John as a Head right ( this was one of those bogus rights) . Apoproximately 1715 Ths. and Jhn moved their families to the N. Side of the Meherrin R at a site later to be recognised as Hills Ferry. (a Kings Landing- commerciaLThere are a wealth of abstracts there to support them. William’s first NC patent was there in 1706. Thomas had patents on the S. Side of the Meherrin near Bells Branch and Old Tree Swamp on the N. side of the Potecasi. He surveyed and also had land on the south side of the Potecasi. Near Bells branch was the land given to his son Thomas Jr. and also land of Daniel MacDaniel. IN 1702 William transacted land near the Blackwater R. on Anthony’s Delight?Golightley Cr. He passed on a parcel to his brother Thomas of Nansemond co. ( note Nansemond above 1700).

      Richard Booth lived on corrawaugh Sw in 1682 and passed land on to John Rogers II and wife (Mary Booth)
      Richard’s sister. This is where Richard Booth received Headright land after his tenure on the Benjamin Harrison Plantation in Surry.Just as the Brown’s and John Rogers were of the first settlers on the N. side of the Meherrin, Richard Booth moved down the Chowan to wiccocon Cr about 1702. His last will and testiment iis ca. 1705 at that location.

      This is consolodated as i have abstracts and many maps to help me follow this story.

      My tree is from Jonathan Rogers 1762 N. Sice of the Potecasi Cr.( original Brown land).

      Benjamin Rogers Smith TN you may e-mail me

      Benjamin Rogers Smith

      April 18, 2013 at 7:51 am

  11. Hi anderson1951,
    Is it possible to correspond with you via e-mail? I’m researching my possible connection to Tom Frusman, Weyanoke named in Richard Booth testimony, and the colonial Indian Trade in general. I came across your blog in looking for background info on Booth, Merritt, Harrison, etc. Additionally I’m looking for info on Jolley Webb who in 1750 was witness on a Carolus Anderson deed, and later lived in SC neighboring my ancestors.

    Alex

    December 14, 2011 at 4:03 pm

  12. Hi Anderson1951, Reference Genealogy of John Rogers., I find myself additionally intregued by the quotes of a William Brown , father of Beale, WHO DIED IN 1921. This is particularly so, because the records show that William Brown, brother of Thomas Brown, died in 1719. While Thomas Brown moved to the future Chehsire’s Landing on the Meherrin approx.
    1714 or before, William , his brother,had patented 640 ac land there as early as 1706. And yet, Beale Brown ‘s name is all over later deed exchanges there. Dr. Samuel Brown, with out a doubt, came through that location and ending a little south to patent land on the NS of the Catewhiskey ca 1715 adjacent or near land of John Dickinson andRobert Patterson n of the Catewhiskey. ( Yet another side note.. John dickinson also owned some land at the ferrry site of Thomas.)

    Another topic: SEE ABOVE Pg 169 23 July 1695 Elizabeth Booth…. Jeremiah Exum…
    Signed William Browne John Rogawes
    This is my John Rogers (II) whose Is of Wt. Beaverdam Sw location practically touches the Kingsale swamps near John Brown.
    Separately also note: references to “little Ahotskey” swamp/marsh and perhaps some “Ahotskey Swamp” references. ( above one reference Wit: John Dickinson and James Holland… They lived there on the Uraha…. also both known to John Rogers. I Find this Ahoskey there spoke of the Uraha Swamp or parts of it; rather than, the primary Ahoskey Swamp off the Ahosakey Creek near the town of Ahoskey, N.C. further south. This would be nearer to the travels of William Brown and aniel MacDaniel. Useful details?

    R. Smith

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    April 25, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    • Have you searched here for “Rogers”? I’ve been all thru it for Brownes and others… have not checked for your guys… might be a tidbit or 2… http://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/master_index.html

      The Brownes and others did not show up on the Roanoke River until about 1712… I think this is the reason:

      “By the late seventeenth century Virginia traders were still trying to compete with South Carolina for the southwestern trade with the Cherokees and Catawbas, and these seven or eight Tuscarora villages must have been able to capture the middleman position in the flow of goods south of the James River to nearby North Carolina Indians. To go a step farther an undated memorial (probably 1718) sent by the Virginia Indian Company to Governor Spotswood attests that between 1709 and 1711 there had “been no Trade carried on from hence with any forreign Indians, the Tuscaruros only excepted.” This idea is not new. Several statements of Lawson’s are often cited to show that the Tuscaroras monopolized trade before 1711. It has always been assumes that the entire Tuscarora Nation, league, confederacy, or whatever held this position. But we now see that it was clearly a limited number of villages.
      This commerce was conducted using not the well-known Occaneechi “trading path”, but a path parallel to or east of the fall line (see map). perhaps the same route Lewis Binford has suggested for Bland’s trip to the Tuscaroras in 1650. In December 1711 the Saponi and Occaneechi, apparently hoping to gain some control of this trade while the Tuscarora were concerned with the war, asked the Virginia government for a piece of land “on the Northside of Meherine River above the Tuscarora trading path.” A year and a half later, in 1713, one of the refugee Tuscarora villages which fled to Virginia expressed a desire to be placed “on Roanoke River near the trading path called Weccacana.”29.” … “The limited demographic data suggest that in 1710 there were fifteen Tuscarora villages with an average population of three hundred to five hundred per village.” pg 37-38, Four Centuries of Southern Indians. edited by Charles M. Hudson, Did a Tuscarora Confederacy Exist? Douglas W. Boyce

      anderson1951

      April 25, 2013 at 4:33 pm

  13. Interesting comment on Booth. My DNA group just had an exact match from a Booth. 8 separate Brown in my group link separately to John Browne 1626 of Ingatestone Essex England the shipwright. I’m going to link up with that Booth. Good information

    Danny

    April 25, 2013 at 10:43 pm

  14. The will of William Bodie dated Dec 17 1712 named legatees: grandsons, William and Thomas Brown andtheir sisters; daughter Elizabeth Mathews; son John; my now wife Mary. Executor, son John. Witnesses: John Jones, Joseph Chapman,& H. Lightfoot. Recorded: Feb 25 1718.

    William boddie descended from a line of merchant mariners. Hewas born in Fryerning Essex in 1633 but moved with his mother toSt. Botolph’s Aldgate in London’s east end soon after hisfather’s death in 1640. William’s mother married John Wallheadin St. Botolph’s Aldgate in 1641, William’s eighth year. Itappears that William remained in London for the following twodecades until he appeared in Virginia records in 1661 at the ageof 28 as the grantee of 550 acres. One of his headrights, JamesHall, appears to have earlier been the headright of SylvesterThacker in 1650. Subsequently, in 1665, William received agrant of 2800 additional acres for the transportation of 56persons. Among these was Jonathan Browne (later to becomeWilliam’s son-in-law), for two transportations. John BennettBoddie writes that John Browne had earlier been in Virginia, hadreturned to London, and then came back across with the Boddiefamily perhaps as early as 1662, subsequently appearing as aheadright in the 1665 land patent. It is to be noted that JohnBrowne, Shipwright, was also a headright of Captain AnthonyFulgham in 1664 and was his nearby neighbor on Pagan’s shore.On 23 Nov 1675 Robert Smyth, Mariner, paid John Browne,Shipwright, 10,000 lbs. of tobacco for the hull of a new Barklately built called “Isabella” of 40 tons then riding at PaganCreek. Robert Smyth, here listed, appears to have been a Robt.Smyth, Sr., and was noted in John Fulgham’s quit claim deed toAnthony Fulgham in 1669 as being his deceased father, Capt.Anthony’s, tenant on Pagan’s shore. Isle of Wight Countyrecords document that the bark Isabella, belonging the RobertSmyth, aged about 22 years, was pressed into his Majestiesservice 9 April 1677 (during Bacon’s Rebellion) and was castaway. This Robt. Smyth, Jr. may have been the Robt. Smythchristened in St. Botolph’s Aldgate 27 May 1655. On 12 July1665 John Marshall received a grant of 700 acres next to Capt.Anthony Fulgham’s grant and six of his headrights were assignedto him by William Boddie who, on that same day, was granted 3350acres lying next to Fulgham’s and Marshall’s grants. JohnBennett Boddie writes that it may be that these three personsjoined in bringing over a colony. Certainly, theinterconnections between the Boddies of St. Botolph’s Aldgate(SBA), the Shipwright Brownes, the Mariner Smyths (perhaps ofSBA), and the Fulghams suggest interesting possibilitiesconcerning their origins in London’s east end.William Boddie was married three times. His first wife, whocame over with him, was named Anna, last name unknown. Sheappears to have died about 1683. He married secondly,Elizabeth, last name unknown, who signed his deeds from 1697 andwas the mother of two other children, John and Elizabeth. Histhird wife was Mary Griffin, widow of Owen Griffin and daughterof William Hunt, by whom he had no children. Her first husbandwas Robert Edwards. Robert Edwards was the headright of Capt.Anthony Fulgham both in 1664 and 1665. Mary(Hunt)(Edwards)(Griffin) Boddie survived him by 15 years andlived until 1732.

    Danny

    April 26, 2013 at 7:35 am

    • Danny
      …my smoking gun…

      BROWN, JOHN and MARY BODDIE, daughter of William Boddie.
      1682. W.&D. B. 2, p. 231
      Marriages of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, 1628-1800: By Blanche A. Chapman

      It is significant that if John Browne married Mary Boddie in 1682 then common sense dictates that any sons would not be 21 years of age until 1703. The William and Thomas Browne who died 1718/19 in North Carolina were obviously much older than a birth date of 1682. I have Thomas Browne born about 1659.

      anderson1951

      April 28, 2013 at 1:44 pm

  15. As noted before, there could be a set of John Browne’s, one in Kinsale then Pagan’s Creek. My line looks like this:

    John Browne (Jr) Born 1650 (Ingatestone), son of John Browne 1626 Shipright, married Mary Boddie (B. 1653 in IOW) in 1670, one of their sons was named Thomas and was born in 1675 in IOW, Va, died in 1718 in Chowan County. His wife’s name was Christian Maule. They were married in 1695.

    Danny

    April 29, 2013 at 10:03 am

    • I clicked on the map. The location of John Brown 1666 came up on the West side of the Blackwater and south of the divide with Surry co inside Isle od Wight. Could this be the same spot as later referred to as “Anthony’s Delight” deed transaction of 1702? Of course, as mentioned above Thomas Brown would have only been 7 years old.
      RS

      Benjamin Rogers Smith

      April 29, 2013 at 10:18 am

  16. Thanks, unfortunately I cannot get the map to respond to my mouse in order to read the detainls. Is it possible that the william Brown location on the Nottoway is close to the Dr. Samuel Brown ferry location.
    Rs

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    April 29, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    • Yes Dr Brown’s land is westerly directly on the Nottoway River. You might try another computer (I check these maps on my home Mac and my work Windows computer… it works today so you may have a computer issue)

      anderson1951

      April 29, 2013 at 2:23 pm

  17. As I recall the abstract or two about William Browne 1702 on Anthony’s Delight stated that Anthonys delight ‘s mouth(Anthony Lewis) was at the Blackwater. Why then the Nottoway reference? I want to leave the last word to you fellows that have been lookiing at the whole Brown picture for a long time.

    Rogers

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    April 29, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    • There are no “fellows”… there is only “me” … the branch known as “Anthony’s Delight” is lost to history… the maps that I have drawn are a “best guess” that I have concocted as an amateur “historian”… I can make a post of how I figured out where “Anthony’s Delight” actually was but it will probably give you a headache… so far I have compared about 20 deeds from the Library of Virginia to come to my “guess” … the maps that I have posted are not to be found anywhere else on the planet Earth… no brag, just fact.

      What I am doing is the “next level” of where genealogy has to go to find the “burnt records” of Virginia and NC.

      I just added a post for Anthonys Delight… I’ve just now figured out that Thomas Brown lived near the area you are researching which leaves his sons to be dealt with in any area records…. there is no end to the complexities (smiling)…

      anderson1951

      April 29, 2013 at 7:32 pm

  18. Thanks, I understand, find the lost records and I will be “in awe”. But what you have done so far is enough for me “to mooch off of” but I believe in sharing mine too. Why do all of this work and then put it in a safe deposit box? R

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    April 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    • We are on the same page… anyone is free to grab any of my stuff.. Lord knows I’ve stolen enough. My motivations are leaving something my kids will enjoy when the ingrates work up some interest. Laughing.
      BTW… check my McDaniels page… I’m adding some info that touches on a “Rogers”.

      anderson1951

      April 30, 2013 at 3:00 pm

  19. Scroll back up to Bridgett Brown ” to my son Jacob Lewis. I believe she was the daughter of or married to Anthony Lewis. YOu will remember that abstracts of 1702 William Brown and Thomas Brown were eventual owners of the land at “Anthon’y delight.. does the Bridgett Lewis Browne clue suggest that John Brown also had land next to Anthony Lewis.
    ————————————————–

    It is obvious to yo now that I am reading your notes piecemeal. Above also is the depositionthat says that Dr. Samuel Brown also had a son named Thomas Bronw.. I had read this in Hathaway’s a few years ago
    but questioned its actuaracy.Now this presents a whoe new possibility that Thomas Brown and William Brown of Chowan (N.S. Meherrin Hill’s Ferry location) may not be borthers. Am I missing something?

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 8, 2013 at 7:42 am

    • I haven’t found a “smoking gun” proof that they were brothers… but the circumstantial data leads me to conclude they were. All these Brown’s have to be separated out… its a tough nut to crack.

      This associates the two men:
      WILLIAM and MARTHA BROWN to THOMAS BROWN of Nansemond County, for “a certeyn sume”, 50 acres of the same patent of 156 acres to WILLIAM BROWN that is mentioned above, this tract to begin “at the mouth of a Branch called ANTHONYS GOLIGHT Branch . . . to a Red Oak Saplin a corner tree standing on ye side of a pocoson, called ANTHONYS GOLIGHT corner tree standing on ye side of a pocoson, called ANTHONY GOLIGHT Pocoson . . . “

      Signed October 22, 1703 and witnessed by RICHARD EXUM and ROBERT GUILS (?).

      What if Bridgett Brown was the mother of Anthony Lewis… perhaps marrying the Indian trader John Browne secondly? Just because Anthony Lewis was mentioned as an “orphan” does not mean that his mother was dead…

      anderson1951

      May 8, 2013 at 8:19 am

      • I think this is very palusible. If Bridgett is the mother of Anthony Lewis then Anthony had several brothers
        Isaac Lewis, Jacob Lewis.. maybe more….John Lewis and Francis Lewis at Wiccoocon, Brooks Cr. also

        Anthony Lewis lived near Deep Creek/Catherines Creek just so.l of what became Winton.
        ANTHONY LEWISof Chowan Prec. 19 Oct 1713, 300 ac. upon Deep Cr. joining John Fierabent..Wit: Daniel Halsie, Richard Lewis (w. Elizabeth) also a Richard Lewis was there.

        ———————————————————

        Have you searched this website for William Williams… title “John Williams web Site to Demonstrate Site Add Ons” I noted three things but there is more.
        William Williams inherited 200 ac in 1692 adj: Thomas Mandue from his father John williams. John”s share of 400 ac purchased by him & his brother Thomas Williams from George Pierce in 1681. Location between the Corrawaugh Se. and Kingsale Sw. 10 mi. south of the Lawnes Creek community.

        2. Also, John Brown, Brother – in-law of William Williams and perported cousin of both Williams wife and Dr. Samuel Brow( 29 April 1692 S.S. Kingsale (Nugent C & P Vol 2 pp 182, 187, 205, 216, 254, 374, Vol 3, pp 4-5.
        3. William Williams early patentee in Nottaway Basin Wesst of Main Blackwater- 28 Oct. 1702 600 ac; other neighbors James Bryan, Thomas Joyner, (dau. married Tho. Williams) bro of Wm. Willoiams: and Thomas Mandue.

        I have not studied this 1702 community while my focus was in Nansemond on the Sommerton. Obviously these folks from is of Wt and the Kingsale area (gen) have a story to tell us.. Thomas Mandue ofcourse is mentioned with William Bronwe SS of the Morratuck and others.

        Interesting site. RS

        Benjamin Rogers Smith

        May 10, 2013 at 1:40 pm

  20. I added the will of Dr Sam Brown above (bottom of thread)… the good Dr appraised the estate of Anthony Lewis (1739 or so) …so Lewis was living in Southampton at his death. Perhaps near his property near Wm Brown’s? Lewis had a son (Jr) who seems to have moved on… I’ve not tracked him.

    Also found Anthony Lewis will 1739 and added it in thread…

    anderson1951

    May 10, 2013 at 2:15 pm

  21. I always go back to John Browne1626, sold his barque lately in1675, the ship was on Pagans Creek. I am now very interested in the Lewis connection because we knew when John 1626 married her she was a widow with a child. I’ve searched everywhere for her husband or parents. Its too well documented that John Browne 1653 did marry Mary Boddie. There were Browne’s leaving the UK I’m not sure how to separate the two.Browne’s other than match highly probable descendants with DNA. It has linked me to 7 independent records, and mostahree our John Browne, shipwright, 1626 from Ingatestone is not King sale Swamp, oddly wives names and sons names are similar.

    Danny

    May 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm

  22. Marc, I must be real slow… but I am just now able to see the enlarged pic.s of the maps etc.. I am in your debt. I was right in general about the Rogers in Nansemond on the Sommerton,however,I had all of their plantations down below the NC border on the Sommerton. I cannot really comment on the slut Hester who messes up the upright Rogers name. I was aware of these quotes, but thanks. The dates are troubling and they will require some thoughts on these matters -like sherking their Colonial responsibilities and planting the cash cow, tobacco, rather than community nourishment…CORN. There were more than one Joseph and John Rogers names in the Surry ct. record. So, I have my own version of the John Browne problem.
    Again, thank you. RS…..oh yes, also looks like, Black Dick got the raw end of the punishment. In another ct. action John Rogers was the beneficiary in a will of ” all the hogs that run through my woods”. He would have made a good Ark. Razorback!

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    • At the “Fiddlefest” a gal dances with the fella what brung her… end of story. Dunn should have had his ass kicked (or maybe he did who knows?) Did John Rogers dump Hester and marry the Booth gal? How did he meet Booth… was he a trader?

      I read the Boddie account of the Rogers… or rather Dr Holtzclaw’s account… Southside Virginia Families vol 2. I find it lacking… if you look on my Surry to Nansemond map there clearly is a Joseph Rogers adjacent to the John Rogers Sr & Jr… someone explain him??? also a Benjamin Rogers???

      And Rogers… you ain’t slow…my maps are big and bulky (not really set up for easy viewing)… its just that the true picture hasn’t been flushed out yet… just because the hotshots have given us their version doesn’t mean us old pharts can’t do a little of this genealogy stuff too.

      Keep diggin’…. and you have to laugh a lot too, the old timers were no different than us…

      anderson1951

      May 13, 2013 at 4:48 pm

  23. The pivotal deed on your Nansemond map is that of William Howell. In two headright grants of 1685/7 he received grants here for 850 acres. then as recorded in C. and P. by Nel Nugent, Vol.3 Pt.Bk. 10,pg 157:

    Thomas Godwin, 878 acs. (O.&N.L.) U.P. of Nansemond Co.. on S.E. Side of the short Swamp of Sommerton Cr.; 16June1714 p.192, 878 acs. Granted William Howell, 20 Apr. 1685, who assigned to JOHN ROGERS, dec’d, 20 Feb 1686/7; 200 acs. part of which he made over to William Rogers, who conveyed to said Godwin, 12 Oct. 1703; 50 acs. part bequeathed by ds. John to his son Thomas, who conveyed to said Godwin, 25 Nov. 1709; 620 acres part being over-plus 3 lbs., 5 Shillings. I will not monopolize the space by detailing all of these characters and events. I will say that John Rogers of Cypress Cr. Surry is widely perported to have died ca.1685. (close enough). I have no clue as to why Wm. Howell was so “indebted” to the Rogers family.

    I know the author of the most widely circulated book on John Rogers and he speaks well of Holtzclaw. Not only was it missed by Holtzclaw, as well as Worth Ray in his work about the Robert Rogers line. (Note the Langston patent: Robert Rogers quickly settled here for a while aa did Thomas Lawrence, friend of John and Robert) The R. Rogers and the Langstons were VERY tight. However, I will not be arrogant, as I too have errors in my research.

    Just like my genealogy work, I too, am a work in progress. John Rogers and his son were certainly frisky fellows chasing and skinning feral hogs. I would feel a little better if I read that his friend ,Thomas Brown, had chased a few hogs himself. Man does not eat by bread and wine alone.

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 14, 2013 at 7:03 am

  24. Additional reply, to the Rogers’ posts above. John Rogers II married Mary Booth sister of Richard Booth.
    Richard Booth most probably moved to Corrawaugh in 1681 and gave land to his sister in abt 1682. Thus , the 1682 date does not match up with the John Rogers, Hester/Dunn affair abt 1683/4. John Rogers III married Bridgett Cooke (Cooks of Is. of Wt.).
    I am surmising that the John Rogers got to know Richard Booth when Booth worked on the Benjamin Harrison Plantation for Charles Merritt.

    Additionally, note these two John Rogers do not sell their old Beavedam Sw. land (below the Corrawaugh Sw.) until 1722 when they had lived at the Meherrin River with Thomas Brown for 7/9 years. This sale (listed above by you is Witnessed byRichard Lawrence ( who still lived on the Sommerton Cr. near the Langstons. Main point > a Richard Beale signed as witness……..kin to Beale Brown??? ALSO
    above 1704 Richard Reynolds to Benjamin Beal wit: WILLIAM BROWN. I feel sure you did not miss these.

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 14, 2013 at 9:16 am

    • You may be on to something with the “Beale” aspect… a mother’s maiden name would often become the first name of a child. So… if the Indian trader John Brown had a son John (as I suspect) who married a Beale gal then voila!… The Beale Brown was a son of a William however, so the time frame is “iffy” but plausible if the son John was born around 1660… Beale could be a grandson. I suspect this John Brown died 1719 just after Thomas Brown (noted at the same court 8 months later).

      Per above Booth & Rogers… Benjamin Harrison was a notorious Indian Trader so you could be correct… again, very plausible.

      anderson1951

      May 14, 2013 at 10:11 am

  25. Concerning a RICHARD REYNOLDS: He is found above with a Christopher Reynolds with a Witness: William Brown, (above) Then his large 720 ac. patent is highlighted just east of Thomas Brown on Cabin Sw NS of Sommerton Cr. in 1694. BUT he sells only 220 ac of this patent in 1697 to Butler. What happens to this guy and who is he in relation to the Browns. In 1704 he is selling 267 ac. of land on The Western Branch????? to Benjamin Beale. Is he also found at the Wiccocon Cr., Brooks Cr. loation on the W>S> of the Chowan??

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 14, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    • I ,like you, have wondered for a few years where this Beale Brown fellow came from. I noticed in my library reading this past week that he too, while on the Wiccocon cr., had a son and named him William. Let’s hope this one did not marry a Bridgett.. Today I think I was able to follow this William a few years westward inland from this Wiccocon. I am trusting that he did not move anywhere else to confuse us back in the Meherrin/Potecasi area. RS

      Benjamin Rogers Smith

      May 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    • I have a few notes on Reynolds…

      http://andersonnc.wordpress.com/robert-coleman-iow-to-bath-co-nc-d-1721/

      As usual, he is clouded in mystery…. tough to get a handle on these guys…

      anderson1951

      May 15, 2013 at 2:17 pm

  26. I scanned your Reynolds notes:Perhaps Benjamin Beale was in the Reynolds family by marriage.. I am related to this clan of Francis Rountree mentioned here.
    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 15, 2013 at 2:55 pm

  27. I noted above the Witness signature of Thomas Hart, another Hart and a William ?? on the will of Thomas Bronwe Jr. wife Jane ( thought to be Williams). I am related to this line: Thomas Hart + Mary Lane = Jane Hart who married Samuel Brown ( son of John Brown ; Jane and Samuel Begat Brambley Caroline Brown who married Ephriam Daniel. My Jonathan Rogers married Ephriam Daniel’s Dau Elizabeth .
    The short story is that ALL
    of these folks beginning with Thomas Hart and the Lane family were from the Potecasi Creek on the south side. A couple may have moved to the Uraha down creek to the same area as William Browne has a couple of abstract hits. My family history takes on new life here on the Potecasi and former land of Thomas Brown Sr. RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 15, 2013 at 3:06 pm

  28. Referencing your map ( Boddie Southside Families above) to depict the patents surrounding the Thomas Mann who married into the Richard Booth family. Note Richard Booth465 acres 1681. He gave/sold part of this land to his sister and brother-in- law John Rogers (II) w/Mary. their property would have been that where the map is labled “Mr. Lawrence’s Beaverdam. Their land was on Beaverdam Swamp . Rogers and others signed deeds of Mathew Strickland( adjoining) and Johin Brown on Kingsale Sw below.

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 24, 2013 at 7:30 am

    • True…
      What I decided to do with these maps is to stay with the Virginia patents granted by the Colony. As you know many later deals and swaps were made by the owners. There is simply no way (and not enough room) to list all the later transactions… I think it works well for researchers to locate the original patents and just associate the later transactions with explanations.
      I think I remember a reference to John Brown having property next to Councill and Rich Booth a mile or 2 north of my map… all in all, I don’t think it really helps the cause to research it out…
      Occasionally a “private” deed is needed to find someone and of course I will try to show it… but generally try to stick to the Colony grants.
      99% of the notes in the plats are from the patents themselves… such as “Mr Lawrences Beaverdam”.

      anderson1951

      May 24, 2013 at 7:53 am

  29. True, I had figured out the reason for your purpose back in Nansemond just seeing how much room was taken up by some of the patents. This helped confirm my understanding because Booth and Strickland’s properties had were flush on another . Then….
    Booths reduction was Rogers gain back to Stricklands lane. therefore the representation was perfect.

    Final note.. Stricklands large plots show he ws rather weallthy.. He turned one of these huge 1000 ac. +plots in Chowen over to Boon and his wife Eliz? Strickloand.

    thx RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 24, 2013 at 10:56 am

    • That was the land on Blackwater further north in modern IOW… it was inside his larger patent.

      anderson1951

      May 24, 2013 at 11:19 am

  30. Commenting on the Isle of Wight map above, Re: Thomas Mann ( corrawaugh Sw.) Neighbors: Richard Booth, William Strickland( see east boundary note “Collins”, Wm. Mayo, Henry Applewaight ( large land invester)

    Ref Chowan Precinct, Hoffman. 2 Aug.1715/ Thomas BROWN & Christain, his wile, to John Dickinson of the Precinct afrsd., 2 Aug 1715, 5 and 20 pounds current money, 120 Acres more or less, on the North Side of the Meherren Riv., joining John Applerite(Applewaight?), a long pond, John Rogers and the river pocosin Wit: Joseph Rawlinson, John Molten, William Collins. etc.
    1. John Dickinson’s next new land N.S.Catawhiskey Cr butts Ths.Brown’s other land SS of the Potecasi.
    2. John Applerite— Henry Applewaight big land boss in Is. of Wt.
    3. John Molten…. old neighbor of John Rogers.. Ths. Brown at Sommerton Cr. Cabbin Sw. site 1700.
    4. Witness William Collins….old neighbor on Eastern line of Wn Strickland’s Isle of Wt. Location

    Same strokes, same folks for different loc’s

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    May 27, 2013 at 9:08 am

  31. Tidbit–Note… back above in, 3 Jun 1690 John Browne (the Elder) to Rich Shewll.

    This is Richard Shewell, various spellings pronounced SHOOOwell or Suewell. He entered WS of the Chowan at Wiccocon. Seen with Richard? Malpass. I think they were in Nansemond.. I followed them a bit for search on Thomas Rogers Chowan Precinct.
    Rogers

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    June 1, 2013 at 10:00 am

  32. Reference to comments about John Rogers wife Hester and “neighborly” Mr. Dunn>

    I have in my old notes…..Oct. 10 1683 John Rogers 31 , Hester Rogers 20 of London on the roster of the ship “love” ( how appropriate)…Maybe it was a….. long voyage. Does this let my John off the hook.. Perhaps not. Still smells?? Dr. Holtzclaw did not mention this sailboat honny moon. You realize, we either do not get enough information or we get too much to dispence with.
    MIght as well add this

    Aug 21 1635 ship George John Rogers18 ………. ThomasRogers15………….Thomas Howell 20
    “persons of quality

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    June 15, 2013 at 10:59 am

    • That makes it a totally new ballgame…if that immigration can be substantiated it is a new “player”. It would be pure circumstance that the “Hester” scandal erupted at about the same time your guys were simply moving from Surry County to Nansemond. Not only would it erase the scandal but it could explain the annoying circumstance of Dunn showing up a couple decades later “near” Kingsale where the previous Rogers families had been. This could turn out to be a laughable bit of comedy of circumstances.

      Of course there is another homework assignment…
      Oct. 10 1683 John Rogers 31 , Hester Rogers 20 of London on the roster of the ship “love”

      Prove it.

      Wasn’t there a wayward John Rogers (a runaway servant?) who headed out for the “Bay”… when exactly was that??? Sounds like a detective case?

      Sorry but I really enjoy these moments… I told you I like horse thieves and drunken uncles in genealogy.

      anderson1951

      June 15, 2013 at 1:45 pm

  33. Once again, I think Dr. Holtsclaw ( although his wife was a Rogers) was a bit myopic in those things he looked at. BUT I am too. I seemingly joomed up into the Surry court minutes before I needed it. I was QUICKLY mired down with too much Rogers evidence. For..here were multiple John Rogers and a few Joseph’s including a Tanner. Two of these guys at least were in Bacon’s Rebellion, Therefore, I abandoned this to discover other N.C. things that would make me more productive and learn more rather than guess when I was after all such a novice. Now you are reminding me of my earlier fits when you challenge me with the same stuff….. thanks RS funny how the negative court stuff affects yoiur judgement.

    PS Maurice Rogers (lawyer) dug pretty deep even into Wales. He told me he was impressed with Dr. Holtclaw. ( the author of the part on Rogers for Boddie the author. Sounds like Hester was a beauty.
    These hog farmers did not have much experience or resistance. I might add that the family tree from William -Owen etc has several wills and names availabler. I have only John…John Etc. It is like they all had one sperm each then nada.

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    June 16, 2013 at 6:47 am

  34. I am a descendant of the Brownes mentioned here, and have been studying them for years. I came across another distant cousin who is also related and she has a wealth of info about them that helps clear things up with all the duplicate names. You two should compare notes for even more clarification. Her page is here:

    http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/MulberryGrove/browne2.htm

    Ellen Summer

    Ellen

    July 28, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    • Hi Ellen
      I’ve visited Sally’s site many times over the years. I like her work. I had assumed her Dr. Brown clan was distinctly separate from the Browns I discuss but recently, and the deeper I dig, it seems the Dr. Brown folks did venture into NC and both groups get inter tangled. It all makes for a mess to figure out.
      But then it makes for fun times to even figure out a small detail that makes a puzzle piece fit. Feel free to critique… I’ve found that good genealogy almost demands a battle over proof.
      Marc

      anderson1951

      July 28, 2013 at 7:45 pm

  35. Hey Marc,

    My Browne grandfather told us that his ancestors were a group of brothers who all came over together from England. He said the “E” was on the end of the name so they would know they were related. However,
    I have seen various spellings of the surname over the years, and his own father was married twice, with about 10 children from one wife and 11 by the other. Seems like the children from the second wife dropped the “E” to distinguish themselves from the kids of the first wife, my great grandmother.

    I know that surnames frequently show up as first or middle names, and according to some friends on a Scottish website, their naming patterns sometimes included naming a child after the minister who baptized the child. According to my mother, we are Scots-Irish but I have yet to trace a single ancestor to Scotland or Ireland. Here is a helpful website which allowed me to figure out even more kinfolk because of the names:

    http://myweb.wyoming.com/~msaban/SCTname.htm

    This is like a good mystery: following clues, no matter how slim, and eventually solving a mystery. I have subscribed to your blog now to stay updated. I must say your maps are awesome! Keep up the good work! I guess we are cousins of some sort, but have not tried to figure it out, but you possibly could. I come from the Drs Samuel and Jesse Brownes line.

    Ellen

    July 28, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    • For the record I’m not a Brown descendant. My interest stems from about 1733 when an Anderson married the widow of a McDaniel (McDaniel had married a Brown woman)… Tracking that one little incident got me into this quicksand pit of Brown history. :) This is my most popular thread.
      I had not considered a “minister” in the naming patterns… interesting tip.

      The maps have brought my personal research to a whole new level. Like everyone else, I will create a thread of abstracts and look for clues… but as the threads grow we get lost in the details. But with the maps you get a wealth of info that simplifies things. As example, take Thomas Brown(e) 1700… he was in Nansemond… by 1704 or so he swaps some property with Wm Brown and Richard Braswell in Southampton… by 1710 he is in Bertie near Potacasi Creek… and dies there in 1719. I struggled with all that for years…. now it is simple and frees me to make connections I could not make before. Previous to defining his property on Potacasi Creek I had “convinced” myself he was located on Roanoke River near Occaneechi near William Brown. I think we all have these “preconceptions” that we have to guard against.

      http://andersonnc.wordpress.com/roanoke-r-to-chowan-1863-civil-war-map/

      I hope to start filling in that map if I can find the time…

      Samuel Brown’s property can be found here…

      I “think” he lived and died there in Southampton… but I have found some references of him buying/selling property some miles down into NC… perhaps it was sons… nevertheless it tangles different Brown families that have to be sorted out.

      I think a goldmine of primary sources can be found at Familysearch.org…. I frequent the site often… much of it is not indexed and is a pain to go through but I have ran across many of those little “jewels” we all look for. Perhaps some of the later Dr. Brown descendants are lurking there?

      https://familysearch.org/search

      Another great site… (these folks have recently uploaded many Isle of Wight records also to Familysearch.org))… good stuff…

      http://www.brantleyassociation.com/pages/southampton_project.htm

      I gave up on Ancestry.com years ago… it is just too commercialized and “one size fits all”… likewise general web searches usually shows a lot of nonsense… although I still do it. :) Primary sources is where the truth lies.

      anderson1951

      July 29, 2013 at 4:19 am

  36. Thank you so much! I will follow your tips.

    Ellen

    July 29, 2013 at 9:57 am

    • I am thinking that the last I read from you about William Brown and son Beale Brown still leaves questions unanswered. Example:
      When I first investigated William Brown and Thomas Brown,they were on the North side of the Meherrin River near together. William with a patent on 1706 and Thomas with a patent 1714?.l I presumed these to be the two brothers, William and Thomas, sons of Johin Browne. Now I am thinking the william who had a patent is the father of Beale and a different William. Who was this feller- William of early “Bertie” 1706.

      Rogers- TN

      Benjamin Rogers Smith

      July 29, 2013 at 11:23 am

      • The 1702 Virginia patent in IOW (now Southampton) is my strongest evidence that leads me to theorize that Thomas and William are brothers. Also involved with that patent was Richard Braswell who was the brother of the wife of William Brown. Wm sold some to Thomas then some to Braswell. If you track the numerous people involved directly with that patent it includes Daniel McDaniel (I think?) and Anthony Lewis. It all adds up (in my opinion). I have not seen where Beale Brown connects.

        anderson1951

        July 29, 2013 at 12:48 pm

  37. While I am at your site I will add to your comment about youir helpful maps. The Confederate Civil War map of 1763 is very helpful in solving many of my questions about the abstracts of Northampton ca 1723-59. While some of the land description clues are good others lead to ( as you say) preconceived ideas about locations. In my case the discription was NS of the Meherrin on the Island side, Horse Pasture Creek,high lands and low lands and the like.
    By moving to discriptions of the same properties in 1748-58 my perception changed. Then mix in this map and things started falling into place.
    Example: The road that goes NE into the intersection called Buckhorn Church is actually: the Buckhorn Baptost Curch of 1835, Como N.C. 285. It is also referred to as Hill’s Ferry Road. I now believe that Thomas Brown’s patent was about 1 milemax from there back toward Murfreesboro. Also near there are John Rogers, Joseph Durden, and William Brown’s Patent(I think).

    Most of the names associated with the patents/deeds I have research have names that came from Surry co few from Isle of Wight and a few from Nansemond 1700. The titeables record of Surry helps to identify many.
    My preconception has totally changed and now I am unraveling a lot in My Rogers/Brown search in this Meherrin area.
    The Mouson 1733 map and Colson map 1770 and the 1775 map by Henry Morgan are indispensible.
    By 1750 all of these folks in this Meherrin R. area were interconnected by roads and trails in less than a half day. THANKS!
    Rogers

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    July 29, 2013 at 11:52 am

  38. Marc, Refer to your DeedFinder map and reference to William Howell /Henry Baker. Plese note the leads in The will of Edmond Howell bn 1628 Surry co will 1679,
    Howell, Edmond: Leg To only son William Howell, godson Gibson, son of Thos. Gibson, to godson HENRY BAKER, Geo. Foster, & Thos. Ironmonger and his children 9 OCT 1679 Wit John Moring. Bk 2 p 240

    HOWELL, William to son William Howell …..he to pay Capt. William Brown etc …son Edmond…. Thomas….
    Joseph dau Joan ALSBROOKE, Eliz, FITCHETT……friends Wm. Browne and NIch. (Nicholas) Maget overseers of the will 9 May 1718 Wit Wm. Brown, Rich. Maget. Mary Heigh.

    In the Deedmaker map of Nansewmond yoiu show following moving north up the Cabbin Swamp no. of the sommerton…Jospeh Rogers 1717, 607ac; John Rogers 1700, 1700, 356 ac; William Howell, 300 ac 1700; Thomas Brown, 220, 1700; JOSEPH BAKER 217ac, 1704;

    The deeds of Northampton Co. N.C. up to 1759 show the congregation of many like minded folks from the Surry Titheabes and court records. One of the earliest of these was Thomas Brown and adjoining John Rogers(wife Mary) about 1715 on the North side of the Meherrin River near (lter called)Hills Ferry Road and Horse Pasture Creek. Many other Surry and Nansemond folks noteworthy and traceable with this address into 1760.
    To keep this short.
    NIcholas Judkin buys there in May 1752…NIcholas Maget of Southampton buys there Nich. Judkin 4 July 1758…….. prev……. thomas brown’sland..and (jos. )Dardin’s land..Other Surry families interwoven there are Figures, Waller, Holt, Washington, Wilkins, Jones, Gardner.
    Little, Skinner

    I find the association of William Brown(Capt….of Surry) with William Howell interesting. AND the Patent by William Brown at the N.S. of the meherrin site in 1706 with inheritance by Beale Brown interesting (many, many ref. to Beale Brown). I know you have had much debate about these Brown- boys. The patents by WM. brown and Thomas Brown (brother??). I am unsure of their roots but it does not change anything for my work?

    There are several references to Maget and Judkins in Surry Ththeables, Suffolk Co with the Rogers.
    Judkins-Daniel Rogers 1762 Pitt by then they had moved from Northampton Co to Pitt Co. all with the Littles.

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    August 9, 2013 at 12:34 pm

    • The “Capt” Brown of Surry can be traced fairly well and he stays put in Surry (although he may have bought some land in Southampton). His family is not connected to the Browns of Nansemond.

      Just as some Rogers stayed put in Surry and your ancestors moved to Nansemond and then to NC.

      These families have to be separated.

      I look at it this way… I think I have proven that John Brown (the Indian Trader) was born 1639 and arrived in Virginia in 1659… by 1667 he is in Nansemond. So I am sticking with this guy and his family just to have a basis to compare other people.

      If you look at my meager notes on Beale Brown, for instance, it seems he was born around 1680 to a father William who was born perhaps 1660…. therefore his was a separate family.

      If you compare notes for the Capt. Brown of Surry you will find points to separate them from both of the above.

      What I am saying is that I find little value in seeing family names in different areas and making connections. I find most of it just a coincidence. Many of the folks may not even be cousins.

      Until you have a “provable” fact to hang your hat on all you have is a theory.

      anderson1951

      August 10, 2013 at 3:40 am

  39. A new reply to an old comment: Refer to your remark about the death of Thomas Brown about 1718 south of the Meherrin showing his place of reference south of rather than N. of the Meherrin..As you know ,Thomas had about 540 acres on the north side and a lot below.

    You are right ,of course about the Indian path remark.. The Meherrin indian villiage waa approx. on and below the Potecasi. there was probably an indian path there at the new Hills Ferry location. Probbly a fording place.. Other deeds near the Potecasi and below have “old Indian Path” as a discription. I’ll bet Thoams could trade with the indians!

    RS

    Benjamin Rogers Smith

    September 16, 2013 at 8:57 am


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