Andersons of Colonial N. Carolina

so I start this site in Virginia… go figure

IOW and Nansemond Patent Map…

with 13 comments

To enlarge this map click and open in another window. Then use Ctrl+ or – to zoom in and out.  This is a prelude to a larger map.

I may as well begin with the caveat that I think it impossible to create one static map even though I have limited the scope to original patents.  A series of maps perhaps by decades would work.  I also think it damn near impossible for one person to approach a project like mapping a colonial county for the simple reason that my brain is about to explode trying to track the numerous changes… no sooner do you nail down a patent location when you find out the grantee has died and another has taken up the land.

Detailed below are some sample difficulties…

John Bryan (from Sally’s website: http://www.sallysfamilyplace.com/Rayner/bryanl.htm)

Patented often on the Indian Creek branch of the Nansemond River in the Upper Parish and close to the Isle of Wight County line; the property extended toward Kingsale

a. 168 acres on 15 Oct 1652 adj John Garrett and William Story;

b. 200 acres on 18 Mar 1662 adj William Denson [whose widow Frances outlived him 33 or 34 years [Chapman wills pp 14, 47] and Hugh Sanders ~ this 200 acres sold eventually to John Moore.

c. 350 acres adj Robert Johnson 8 Oct 1671 and “close to county line”

d. 81 acres 6 Oct 1674 adj his own land, Henry Gay, and William Denson

e. 470 acres on 20 April 1682, inc. the 350 acres of the 1671 grant adj Robert Johnson and Thomas Mason.

 

John Garrett

 

In Thomas Jefferson’s library can be found an escheate hearing concerning the death of Garrett prior to 1670.  Apparently his son also died by then and he left no heirs.  The resulting land transfer(s) have me left somewhere between perplexed, bewildered and befuddled.

IOW and Nansemond researchers may find the few references interesting:   (memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/mtjser8.html… see Manuscrpt Volume 19. Virginia. Foreign Business and Inquisitions. 1665-76…. somewhat of an index can be found at image number 460).   Braswell researchers will find references to Upton, Bagnal and Robert Braswell if you have not found the site yet.

William Denson

 

The dog seems to have eaten his patent.

I could whine on endlessly but my head is spinning and a glass of Zinfandel is sounding pretty good right now.

Oh wait…here’s some of my James Long notes…

IOW,Deeds, Wills…Great Book Vol.2 1715-1726 (W.L. Hopkins)

(p.105) 18 Feb 1685…. Henry Bosman of Nansemond County to Henry Pope of the same….  200 acres in the lower parish of Isle of Wight County (being part of a patent for 500 acres granted Ambrose Bosman on 2 Jun 1673 which land was formerly granted to William Smelly on 5 Oct 1667) on the west side of Queens Creek and bounded by John More and Henry Bozman.

Wit:  John Browne and William Oldes (?).

Rec:  22 Jul 1717                                            Henry Bozman

………………………………….

By land patent dated February 6, 1663, James Long was conveyed 300 acres of land in the Western Branch of Nansemond River for paying the passage of the following six persons: Henry Gay (I), Simon Lee, Jno. Ardy, Robt. Briggs, Elizabeth Collins, and Jno. Williams. This land patent is recorded in the Virginia State Library in Patent Book 5 at Page 302 (274).

…………………..

IOW,Deeds, Wills…Great Book Vol.2 1715-1726 (W.L. Hopkins)… p.137

(p.448) —-… William Price and wife, Elizabeth Price the daughter of Edmund Godwin, and Sarah Godwin the daughter of Edmund Godwin, decd., of Nansemond County to William Denson of Isle of Wight County… -?- acres on the western branch of Nansemond River adjoining William Scott (being part of a patent granted James Long about 1664 for 300 acres and now in the possession of Robert Scott) and (part of another patent granted James Long for 200 acres on 22 Apr 1670 and was sold to Capt. Thomas Godwin and his son Edmond Godwin in a deed dated 1672 and given by the will of Edmond Godwin to the aforesaid Sarah Godwin and Elizabeth Price being the plantation “that John Knowles lived on”).

Wit: Joseph Garner and William Pope

[signed]  William Price, Elizabeth Price, Sarah Godwin

Rec; 25 Sep 1721

Isle of Wight Deed Book 1 1688-1704 (William Lindsay Hopkins)

(p.233 —- James Long of North Carolina, eldest son and Heir of James Long formerly of the Western Branch of Nansemond River to Robert Scott…. 200 acres on the south side of the main swamp (mention of a sale from a 300 acre patent to Robert Stocker).

Wit: Charles Roads, Jacob Darden and William Parker                James (X) Long

Rec: 9 Aug 1697

Isle of Wight County Deed Book I, 1688-1704

pg. 631 James LONG of N.C., eldest son and heir of James LONG formerly of Western Branch of Nansemond River sells to Robert SCOTT 200 acres on south side of main swamp, father had 300 acres bought of Robert STOKES.

2 Aug. 1697. Charles READE, Jacob DARDEN, Wm. PARKER.

[Robert STOKES was the first husband of Jane BRASWELL. He was hanged for his involvement in Bacon's Rebellion.]

……………………….

Isle of Wight Deed Book 2 , 1704-1715 (William Lindsay Hopkins)

(p.152) 19 Jul 1710… Robert Cooper to Arthur Pursell… 1 acre (being in a patent to James Long and part of a neck of land conveyed by Jane Roberts to Thomas Gale after the original deed by Robert Stork to said Gayle’s father was burnt with the Nansemond County records).

Wit: Arthur Smith, Thomas Cooper and John Sikes           Robert Cooper

Rec: 10 Jul 1710

………………..

Isle of Wight Deed Book 2 , 1704-1715 (William Lindsay Hopkins)

(p.170) 9 Dec 1710….  Robert Scott to William Scott, Jr… 100 acres in the lower parish on the west side of Indian Creek Swamp (being land given to me by my father William Scott, decd., and is part of a patent granted William Denson in 1661).

Wit: John (x) Roberts, Thomas(x) Roberts and Sarah (x) Scott

Rec: 29 Jan 1710                       Robert Scott

……………….

James Long

300ac Patent 1663

??? 300ac 1664 bought from Robert Stokes

200ac 1670  sold to Th Godwin and Edmond Godwin in 1672

200ac 1697  sold to Robert Scott

Written by anderson1951

January 17, 2010 at 5:52 pm

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  1. Can anyone confirm the father of my ancestor,Robert Lang/Long. Indian Trader who goes to South Carolina around 1735.

    Thanks,
    Alan

    alan

    February 12, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    • I assume that you have read this site: http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/greybird7/genealogy.html

      I’ve delved into the James Long of Nansemond and he apparently moved to Perquimons Precinct in N. Car….evidently embracing the Quakers. One of his sons (grandsons?) may have ventured to the Occonechee Neck area but I have no proof.

      I have wanted to read the research of Beverley Fleet concerning the Brunswick VA area of the early 1700s but haven’t had access yet. I think there may be some clues there.

      Marc

      anderson1951

      February 12, 2010 at 11:06 pm

      • Marc,

        Yes, I have seen the site you mention. Gives a lot of good information, great piece, but not sure about the father of my Robert Lang/Long mentioned on the site. Still looking.

        Thanks for mentioning Beverley Fleet. Sounds interesting.

        Alan

        FYI some summary on Robert from different sites.
        ROBERT LANG/LONG: INDIAN TRADER

        I am trying to find the place of origin for Robert Lang/Long. Robert Lang was an Indian trader in Virgina, North Carolina, and South Carolina staring in the early 1700’s. His name is mentioned several times in the Colonial records.

        From THE NORTH CAROLINA GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY JOURNAL, Volume XX, No.2, May 1994, pg.82

        JAMES LOGAN COLBERT of the CHICKASAWS:THE MAN AND THE MYTH, by Richard A. Colbert

        Gideon GIBSON had lived near the Occoneechee Neck adjacent to land owned by Arthur KAVANAUGH, Ralph MASON, and Richard TURBEVILLE before buying land on Quankey Creek from Robert LONG [LANG], a Chickasaw and Cherokee Indian trader. LONG also owned land at Elk Marsh and Plumbtree Island. LONG had received his land patents at Quankey Creek and Plumbtree Island on 1 March 1719/1720. (34)

        When Richard TURBEVILLE and his family moved to North Carolina, they lived on the Occoneecheewith other Chickasaw traders and next to ANDERSON, COLSON, PACE, MASON, GIBSON, LANG(LONG), and Thomas WHITMELL.(47)

        On 1 March 1720 the Lords Proprietors of North Carolina issued patents to Plumbtree Island and on the south side of Plumbtree Swamp abutting the island. These patents went to Thomas WHITMELL, William GREEN, John COTTON, John GEDDES, William REEVES, Barnaby MILTON, and Robert LANG(LONG). Shortly after Thomas WHITMELL obtained his patent on Plumbtree Island, Joseph CALVERT and his family moved on the island. (48) The CALVERTs were later joined by the TURBEVILLEs and COLSONS

        From the Early Clarks of Carolina By Doug Tucker

        Edward Clark Jr’s immediate neighbors included many of the so called Chickasaw Indian Traders, e.g. Robert Lang, John Pace, Thomas Whitmell, etc. Who settled near Occoneechee Neck between 1713 and 1725. These traders would take Indian trail south in the late fall to the Chickasaw and Cherokee winter camps along the bluffs of the Broad River.

        Both Gibsons were part of the small community of Indian traders known as the “Chickasaw Traders” who between 1710 and 1730, settled along the main north/south Indian trail near where if forded the Morattock (later Roanoke) River, and area the traders named Occoneechee Neck. Chowan and Bertie Precinct land records establish that Gideon Gibson acquired land from William Maule and Robert Lang (an Indian trader) in 1721 and 1722 along the south shore of the Roanoke River adjacent to Quankey Creek.

        From “THE EXPANSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA” 1729-1765 by

        Robert L. Meriwether 1940 Chapter V
        Between 1736 and 1741 several English names are to be found among the
        Saxa Gotha plats: Robert Lang senior and junior, William Baker, Thomas
        Berry, Richard Myrick, and John Gibson had surveys near Savannah Hunt
        Creek. PAGE 55

        Philip Raiford, Junior and James Leslie were also on Broad River by
        1756. Samuel Lines went to the lower Saluda while Robert Lang senior and
        Junior, or two men of their name, went one to the upper Saluda…PAGE 62

        Royal Grant, Volume 42, page 123.

        George III to Robert Lang Junior, 150 acres in Saxegotha Township in Berkley County on Santee River, adj. land laid out to Robert Lang Senior, dated 5 June 1742.

        A memorial exhibited by William Seawright to be registered…150 acres in Berkley County on Santee River adj. land laid lout to Robert Lang Senr, originally granted 5 June 1742 to Robert Lang Junr and was by said Robert Lang and Melasante his wife 11 May 1744 conveyed to Thomas Brown

        From: ABSTRACTS OF THE WILLS OF THE STATE OF SOUTH
        CAROLINA 1760-1784
        Compiled and edited by Caroline T. Moore:
        Will Book RR 1767-1771 page 81

        ROBERT LANG, planter. Wife: Millicent. Children: RICHARD, [others not
        named], land where I now live excess part given Thomas Largen.
        Son-in-law: Thomas Largen, part of land where I now live. Mentions:
        eldest of my sons to help maintain the younger children; residue of
        estate “amongst all my Children.” Exors: wife; son Richard. Wit: Andrew
        Brown, Daniel Burnet, Henry Foster.

        D: 30 Aug. 1762. P: 22 July 1763. R: nd. p.54.
        ______________________________________________________________________________________

        SOUTH CAROLINA COURT RECORDS, LAURENS COUNTY, page 160
        LANG, ROBERT -w- Millicent Laurens C.T. Deed N4-357
        oldest son: Richard Lang -w- Sarah– to Daniel Williams of Halifax Co.,
        Va.–250 A. on Reedy R. of Saluda. Orig, Gr. to John Reed 5 Nov. 1775
        conv. to Robert Lang 1 or 2 March 1756
        _______________________________________________________________________

        Alan

        February 13, 2010 at 3:05 pm

      • Marc,

        The James Long of Nansemond you spoke of shows some promise. I see there is a lot of hits for his name when you do a search. I haven’t found one that gives his children’s children but interesting. I have some leads to go on now, Anthony Longo, and James Long/Lange.
        One day I hope to solve this puzzle. Let me know if you get in touch with Beverley Fleet and her research.

        Alan

        Alan

        February 14, 2010 at 12:21 am

    • Alan
      Check here for info on the Nansemond James Long: http://digital.lib.ecu.edu/historyfiction/item.aspx?id=wih

      My “gut” tells me that your Robert Lang/Long isn’t from that group. …here’s another lead…

      History of Halifax County
      Allen, W. C. (William Cicero), b. 1860

      X NICHOLAS LONG.

      Nicholas Long, the founder of the Long family of Halifax County, came to North Carolina when a young man and settled near what is now the town of Halifax. The exact date of his coming to the county is unknown, and the date and place of his birth are likewise obscure. Shortly after coming to Halifax, Long built his country home, “Quanky,” which was just across Quanky Creek from the “Grove House.”

      He is mentioned in Wheeler’s “Reminiscences” as being a wealthy planter and his home as being the headquarters for prominent men who from time to time visited Halifax. It is said that, when President Washington visited Halifax on his tour of the South, he stopped with Colonel Long for several days. In similar ways the reputation of “Quanky” came to be more than State wide.

      Before John Harvy issued his call for the first Provincial Congress to meet in Newbern, August 24, 1774, he came to Halifax to consult with Willie Jones and Nicholas Long. Both Jones and Long were at the time members of the Provincial Assembly; and when the Congress was called, they were elected members and served in the double capacity at Newbern. Long was also a member of the Second Provincial Congress at Newbern the next year and also at Hillsboro. At the latter Congress, the State was divided into military districts, each district to raise and equip five hundred men. Nicholas Long was appointed Colonel of the Halifax district.

      A grant of land was made to Robert Long in Halifax County,

      but it is not known whether he was an ancestor of Nicholas Long. The grant is dated 1725.

      Later, in the progress of the struggle for independence, each county was empowered to raise and arm a regiment of minute men, and the position of Commissary-General of the State forces was created. Colonel Long was chosen to this latter position. He personally superintended, together with his wife, the work shops on his own farm for the purpose of manufacturing implements of war, ammunition, clothing, and other supplies for the soldiers.

      Mrs. Long possessed great energy and firmness with mental power of no common order. Her praises were the theme of conversation among the officers, who knew her. She died at the advanced age of eighty leaving a numerous offspring.

      Colonel Long held the position of Commissary-General of the State troops until 1781, when he resigned and was succeeded by William R. Davie. The last public service he rendered, of which we have any record, was in the senate the sessions of 1785 and 1786. As a legislator, or soldier, or planter, Colonel Long proved his worth and has left a worthy name to his numerous descendants.
      ………………
      With that said, I tend to focus on Robert Hicks and Arthur Kavenaugh of Virginia and Thomas Whitmell of NC… I think they were the movers of the Occonechee traders. (hence my interest in the research of Beverley Fleet)

      Another lead I have not gotten hold of is “Commissioners of the Indian Trade…1710 – 1718″ (S. Carolina). There are also further journals dating into the 1720s.

      Marc

      anderson1951

      February 14, 2010 at 12:43 pm

  2. Thanks. I hope to also find a Rev. Stephen Long of Halifax ( a descendant of Quanky N.C. Robert and Nicholas) who came to Carroll County, MS in the late 1830s. That would be my missing link. Stephen’s daughter Martha married John P. Marshall of Carroll County, MS.

    Robert Long, Hernando, MS

    Robert Long

    March 4, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    • Marc,

      Re: By land patent dated February 6, 1663, James Long was conveyed 300 acres of land in the Western Branch of Nansemond River for paying the passage of the following six persons: Henry Gay (I), Simon Lee, Jno. Ardy, Robt. Briggs, Elizabeth Collins, and Jno. Williams. This land patent is recorded in the Virginia State Library in Patent Book 5 at Page 302 (274).

      I am a descendant of Henry Gay (DNA, etc) – I am unable to find the referenced patent for James Long on the VA archives on-line patent site. I checked the ufilm images for page 302 and 274 of the PB 5 – not there. Do you have a better reference? I have seen this before in the Boddie material also but I can’t find the original.
      Thanks
      Joe Gay

      Joe Gay

      July 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      • Hi Joe
        Recheck the Patent Book 5, It is on page 274. see here http://image.lva.virginia.gov/LONN/LO.html
        It doesn’t have the headrights listed though… the headrights may be from Nugent’s Cavaliers and Pioneers (I’ve ran across this issue before and don’t know the source that Nugent used?)

        The reference to page 302 is incorrect. The 1670 patent is under James “Longe”… but I suppose you are looking for the Gay headright mention.

        I have a “Page” for John Gay of Edgecombe that you may be interested in… any comments are welcome.

        anderson1951

        July 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm

      • Thanks for looking for a Stephen Long link. Please let me know if you run across anything. I will be glad to oblige on any requested material in my searches. Best regards, Robert Long

        Robert
        I added a link for the South Carolina Archives (see under Blogrolls) you may find something in there if you haven’t checked already?
        Marc

        Also check familysearch.org They have added a lot of new stuff lately.

        Robert Long

        July 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm

      • Marc,
        Thanks for the lead on the Henry Gay as headright of James Long – The page 274 reference is correct for the Patent Book No 5 listed below and as you say, it has no list of the headrights. I looked at the page 302 in the “Patent Books Original No 5″ and found the same patent with the headrights listed. The image is VERY hard to read but the name appears to look more like James Gay than Henry Gay. This is no issue since James Gay was in the colony as early as 1622 as a son of William Gay (from english records in UK)

        The list of images on the VA site popped up from your link when I used Firefox instead of IE8. I just selected a book and page No. See below- the partial paste of the site index screen:

        Patent/Grant Year/Volume Reel Num. Total Pages
        Patents No.1 1623-1643 VOL.1&2 1 963
        Patents No.2 1643-1551 2 825
        Patents No.3 1652-1655 2 825
        Patent Books Original No.4 1655-1662 3 847
        Patent Books Original No.5 1661-1666 3 847
        Patents No.4 1655-1664 4 660
        Patents No.5 1661-1666 (VOL.1 & 2 p.1-369) 5 688
        Patents No.6 1666-1679 (Part I & II p.1-692) 6 692
        Patents No.7 1679-1689 (VOL.1 & 2 p.1-719) 7 719
        Patents No.8 1689-1695 8 453
        Patents No.9 1697-1706 (VOL.1 & 2 p.1-742) 9 742

        Thanks Again! I love your Site!
        Joe Gay

        Joe Gay

        July 16, 2012 at 11:34 am

  3. I’ve spent considerable hours on the Library of Virginia site and never ran across that “original” patent book vs the “other” patent book………. thanks for the tip……….. I’ll try Firefox.

    Joe
    Also see my Isle of Wight map for my hunch on where Henry Gay’s property was… this map was an earlier attempt of mine (the IOW is my most current attempt). With that said I can’t really get enough neighbors to place him with any certainty. See also my “Page” for John Gay of Edgecombe… I think he was possibly a son of Henry but more probably a grandson.

    anderson1951

    July 16, 2012 at 11:55 am


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